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Penguinpizza

Ok so here is the thing I just bought a Toro Wheel Horse GT410 with a Kohler cv460s motor. It will start up but quickly seems to stall out. I replaced the fuel pump, carb, and battery. After replacing the carb I did notice it started better when it did start but didn't last long. Next I'm thinking the vacuum line. Can anyone offer any trouble shooting into what might be so my wife doesn't kill me thank you

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ri702bill

Welcome! You need to isolate the system that is the problem. Is it fuel or spark related??

A simple inline spark checker ( or 2 when diagnosing a twin cylinder) will help identify if the problem in the spark department. Low cost & good to have...

Is the fuel tank cap vent working?? Loosen the cap and try to run it. No cost to try... Is there a fine mesh screen in the shutoff? If there is, they are notorious for severely limiting fuel flow as they get older - particularly if ethanol fuel (a no-no) was used.... Download the manual to see if the OE shutoff had one. Note - IF it was ever replaced - all bets are off & the only way to tell is to replace the shutoff & bushing. Short money...

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44 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

Welcome! You need to isolate the system that is the problem. Is it fuel or spark related??

A simple inline spark checker ( or 2 when diagnosing a twin cylinder) will help identify if the problem in the spark department. Low cost & good to have...

Is the fuel tank cap vent working?? Loosen the cap and try to run it. No cost to try... Is there a fine mesh screen in the shutoff? If there is, they are notorious for severely limiting fuel flow as they get older - particularly if ethanol fuel (a no-no) was used.... Download the manual to see if the OE shutoff had one. Note - IF it was ever replaced - all bets are off & the only way to tell is to replace the shutoff & bushing. Short money...

Thanks I'll check into them things. Only thing I guess I have to ask is where might the shut off be? By the gas tank is what I'm guessing I'll definitely look into those things

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gwest_ca

A revised link to the same manuals but added the illustrated parts list - IPL

 

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10 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

A revised link to the same manuals but added the illustrated parts list - IPL

 

Thank you

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ri702bill

Shutoff is usually on the bottom of the tank. Usually.....

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Penguinpizza

I just replaced the spark plug and the fuel solenoid. Did everything listed about It started up smoked a lot but didn't stay running and putted out. I didn't noticed a screen in the shut off

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Lagersolut

Is the unit on Ethanol ?  Ethanol degrades rubber fuel lines,  the fine rubber particulates end up in the jets - worked on a K181 a few years ago P O also tried a new carb,  the degraded fuel line clogged the new carb up in a short order . After another carb - new fuel line and Ethanol free gas running normal  again . 

 

Just putting it out there 

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Retired Wrencher

:text-yeahthat: Replace anything that has to do with your fuel supply. If still the same look into all the electrical parts.

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1 hour ago, Retired Wrencher said:

:text-yeahthat: Replace anything that has to do with your fuel supply. If still the same look into all the electrical parts.

Yeah my next thought is to replace the fuel lines

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