1/ 4 " steel brake / fuel line

[peter lena 9,842]

https://www.finditparts.com/products/10408301/ags-company-pa451?srsltid=AfmBOorBjGflTr77-5J5LW5UDYcmamNXvtlYO_PuGF6wce0bU_bhveNc   regularly refer to running a frame length  steel  fuel line , eliminating  a  long  fuel hose break down area , this easily tucks up into the upper inside frame corner bend , make up your own , mount spots to related frame holes  mine are finished off with  a clear  , fuel rated hose , filter, fuel check valve  to  carb  , filter holding  view of  standing fuel to carb , lots of time on this , also sta bil  in fuel , instant starts  , been in use for years  , all my small engines . another CHRONIC ISSUE , LONG ELIMINATED . PETE 

[rmaynard 17,092]

The only place where Wheel Horse used steel fuel lines was on early Kohler engine powered models, between the pump and carburetor. Because of significant vibrations, they used the anti-vibration fittings with a rubber compression seal inside. This was a Kohler innovation, Eventually they were all replaced with flexible (rubber/PVC/synthetic) hoses. Easier to wind through tough angles and bends. Yes, rubber tubing did have some drawbacks, but modern improvements have made them much better. I have redone steel brake lines on cars and found it time consuming by having to use a bender every time you need to go over, under, around, and through. Just my two cents worth 

[ri702bill 11,743]

13 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

nd found it time consuming by having to use a bender every time you need to go over, under, around, and through. Just my two cents worth 

Bob is right - rigid tubing can be a PITA to form.

The new stuff - the copper nickel coil - rigid but bendable by hand is the way to go if you wish. A big advantage on under the car lines - it does not "fret" at the mounting clips - no corrosion plating wearing thru and rusting out like the OE and rigid lines.

[ri702bill 11,743]

If you go the hose route, look into the modern fuel injection hose. Mostly metric sizes, but 6mm works for 1/4". Much more resistant to interior breakdown using modern fuels.

[peter lena 9,842]

@ri702bill   just the  length and upper  solid  frame 90 degree  area is its own jig , maybe  a 45/ 9o at ends for  clear hose  to  tank and carb , have not had a  fuel degradation issue since , mods  . only use regular gas  and sta bil  , no / zero  hose break down in any filter  , carb bowls are clean / clear . just my experience . pete 

[sqrlgtr 2,524]

3 hours ago, ri702bill said:

If you go the hose route, look into the modern fuel injection hose. Mostly metric sizes, but 6mm works for 1/4". Much more resistant to interior breakdown using modern fuels.

 I like the 30r14 stuff it can be expensive if your buying local but the last I got from the jungle was only 2.50 a foot and is Gates Barricade 30r14, good stuff. I got a 25ft roll

Edited 5 hours ago by sqrlgtr

[ebinmaine 78,175]

5 hours ago, ri702bill said:

If you go the hose route, look into the modern fuel injection hose. Mostly metric sizes, but 6mm works for 1/4". Much more resistant to interior breakdown using modern fuels.

 

1 hour ago, sqrlgtr said:

 I like the 30r14 stuff it can be expensive if your buying local but the last I got from the jungle was only 2.50 a foot and is Gates Barricade 30r14, good stuff. I got a 25ft roll

 

 

I'll do ya all one better.  

Here's a copy/ paste from a post of mine:

 

 

 

      "I've switched over to using a Briggs brand fuel hose. 395051R.

 

This a Low Permeation type that's been more in demand by several states. 

 

My favorite small engine repair place started using it because it's alcohol capable and easy access for them. 

 

They KEPT using it because it's a slightly smaller OD than others and very soft supple easy to use hose."

 

 

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT 

[pfrederi 20,226]

23 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

 

I'll do ya all one better.  

Here's a copy/ paste from a post of mine:

 

 

 

      "I've switched over to using a Briggs brand fuel hose. 395051R.

 

This a Low Permeation type that's been more in demand by several states. 

 

My favorite small engine repair place started using it because it's alcohol capable and easy access for them. 

 

They KEPT using it because it's a slightly smaller OD than others and very soft supple easy to use hose."

 

 

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT 

 

 

I hate to bring this up but how long have you been using this B&S stuff.  a few years ago people recommended some yellow plastic fuel line and then some blue stuff.  turns out after a couple years it stiffened up and shrunk.....

[ebinmaine 78,175]

1 hour ago, pfrederi said:

 

 

I hate to bring this up but how long have you been using this B&S stuff.  a few years ago people recommended some yellow plastic fuel line and then some blue stuff.  turns out after a couple years it stiffened up and shrunk.....

 

 

Three seasons now, I think 🤔??

 

This is the black rubber type fuel line in the "Low permeation" form required by several states for emissions reasons. 

 

 

The only thing that should be known ahead of use is that it's a smaller OD so the standard spring clamps don't work. 

That's okay with me because I strongly dislike spring clamps. I use new, good quality, mini screw clamps.  

 

The black Briggs fuel line on my C160-8 Cinnamon Horse is over two years old and looks excellent.  

 

I still like the yellow and blue line for the fact that they're both see-through but it's ridiculous to replace lines every two years.  

 

 

 

[ri702bill 11,743]

7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

it's ridiculous to replace lines every two years.  

Regardless of the material or color.