6wheeler 672 #1 Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Hi all. strange thing with my C-165. I was hauling wood with it back in November and the engine all of a sudden went redline and I couldn't idle it down. I towed it up to the shop with the 160 auto. and looked at it the next day. Same thing. Tach right out. No time to mess with it so off to the shed she went. I got some time so I hauled it up to the shop. Went to start it and it wouldn't start. So I took the air filter out to make sure ny choke was working. Low and behold? There was my culprit. The choke plate had come off. Both screws broken at the shaft. Not knowing that, because it always started and since you can't see it when cleaning the air filter. I do not know how long it was broken off. The plate had bounced around in the throat and beat it up real bad and was wedged in so the throttle plate couldn't close. I have never seen that before. So I ordered a carb. online. It came and when I put it on? I could not get that to adjust to save my life. So, I robbed some parts off of it to see if I could get my old carb to work. I got it to start. But, the thing is so badly beat up inside, the plates cannot work like they should. So, after a long story? Does anyone have an opinion or experience on where to order a carb from? I see many that say Kohler on the boxes on the ads. Not thinking that is real. I went on Isavetractors and they are out of stock with no pre- orders available. TIA Pat Edited 4 hours ago by 6wheeler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 76,944 #2 Posted 4 hours ago You have several separate issues going on there. I can elaborate later on today. IMHO the aftermarket carburetors do not belong on a big block Kohler. I've had several go bad. I now refuse to use them. CALL Lincoln at A to Z Tractor in PA and order another one. It's the only way I would do it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 15,706 #3 Posted 4 hours ago 22 minutes ago, 6wheeler said: The choke plate had come off. Both screws broken at the shaft. This also means that at least the heads of the two screws got swallowed into the engine. Since it’s in the shop already, I would order up a new head gasket and then pull the head to have a look see for scratched cylinder walls, valves, or valve seats. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 11,105 #4 Posted 3 hours ago What goes in must come out. That could be with or without incident. As Don said, pull the head. Cycle the engine over by hand to look for damage, You may find the loose fiddeley-bits inside the muffler.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6wheeler 672 #5 Posted 3 hours ago Thanks guys. Those were my thoughts excactly. I did that before I even tried starting it. No dmage at all. I thought for sure it would show up on the piston or on the head. But, Lucky for me? Just some little nicks in the carbon that was there. I cleaned all that up, lapped and set the valves. Good compression test. I mean seriously. I guess these Kohlers can"EAT" a little brass and spit it out like it just doesn't care. I just know I cannot save this carburetor. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites