pfrederi 19,148 #1 Posted 18 hours ago It is very difficult to get the front two mounting bolts hooked up on a K-181 on an 856/commando frame. You can't get good access to the under side of the frame to get the bolt up through or hold a nut if you bring the bolt down from the top. After a half hour of frustration I had a brain fart. With the engine slid back you can work the bolt up from the bottom. So I got two 3/8" E clips slipped them over the bolt on the top side of the frame. Held the bolt in place while I lowered the engine over them. Just catch the lock washer and nut then use a pry bar lift the engine and with a small hook you can pull the E clip off. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,454 #3 Posted 18 hours ago Paul, I can relate to that... I bought a cheap 9/16" 6 point 3/8" drive socket for that purpose. I ground one side flat parallel to one of the socket flats. I left about .030 wall... I use that socket with an extension to hold the hexnut from below while installing the bolt from above. Your method works fine without the added cost... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,661 #4 Posted 16 hours ago I had an 856, have an 857 a Commando 8 and an 875. All have K-181's. Each one had the engine removed and reinstalled. I never recall having any problem with engine mounting bolts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,831 #5 Posted 16 hours ago I use the push nuts like you see holding brake drums on from the factory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 3,791 #6 Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, rmaynard said: I had an 856, have an 857 a Commando 8 and an 875. All have K-181's. Each one had the engine removed and reinstalled. I never recall having any problem with engine mounting bolts. I've had the engine out of my 855 a few times now and never had much trouble either. Just gotta use both hands. 2 hours ago, squonk said: I use the push nuts like you see holding brake drums on from the factory. That's not a bad idea. Where do you get them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,831 #7 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, adsm08 said: I've had the engine out of my 855 a few times now and never had much trouble either. Just gotta use both hands. That's not a bad idea. Where do you get them? A good hardware store has them if they keep the drawers stocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 3,791 #8 Posted 13 hours ago Just now, squonk said: A good hardware store has them if they keep the drawers stocked. Oh. I don't have one of those. Our Ace used to be good before it was an Ace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 9,140 #9 Posted 13 hours ago 5 hours ago, pfrederi said: bolt in place while I lowered the engine over them Nice pro tip Idea! If I can add, I put one longer bolt in the corner near the battery and use it as a stud for hooking up the ground. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 53,127 #10 Posted 12 hours ago I used a dab of silicone but was quitting for the nite so had time to set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 43,576 #11 Posted 11 hours ago Plumbers putty works as a bolt holder. I think that's how I got the fuel tank mounted in the 953. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 6,137 #12 Posted 1 hour ago 14 hours ago, rmaynard said: I had an 856, have an 857 a Commando 8 and an 875. All have K-181's. Each one had the engine removed and reinstalled. I never recall having any problem with engine mounting bolts. I agree with that, Bob. It is a little tight in the front, but I’ve never stopped me from bolting it down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,831 #13 Posted 56 minutes ago The last 2 times I put an 8 in the hole, I used a 1/4" dr. 1/2" flex socket stiffened up with electrical tape with an 8" extension to get the bolt in place and hold it before putting on the push nut 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites