WheelHorseVH 110 #1 Posted 23 hours ago Hi all, my brother in law just got a 2 stage WH snowblower that I installed on his 414-8. I know it is going to use all 14 of those horses to run it but he really wanted it. The biggest problem that I see right now is that when you lift it up to just the minimal lift, the belt touches the muffler on the K321 engine. Anyone run into this or have suggestions? Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,707 #2 Posted 22 hours ago Please post a pic of your set up on that side. Maybe we can figure out what's going on or what can be done to solve it Guessing your muffler isn't installed horizontal 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 75,125 #3 Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, WheelHorseVH said: 2 stage WH snowblower that I installed on his 414-8. I know it is going to use all 14 of those horses to run it but he really wanted it. Be sure to get a real tachometer and check the actual RPMs. You'll want the snowblower going FULL speed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,377 #4 Posted 21 hours ago 23 minutes ago, wallfish said: Please post a pic of your set up on that side. Actually, 2 pictures. One with it lowered for use, the other with it raised. My guess is either improper belt routing, or as @wallfish mentioned, the position of the muffler. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorseVH 110 #5 Posted 15 hours ago Lowered, raised, and belt routing pics below. Thanks, gents. Insights are appreciated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 75,125 #6 Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, WheelHorseVH said: Lowered, raised, and belt routing pics below. Thanks, gents. Insights are appreciated ... Edited 3 hours ago by ebinmaine Corrected incorrect info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,707 #7 Posted 13 hours ago Yup, muffler needs to move if you want to run that blower. Run the engine until it's hot then try to remove those exhaust bolts holding it on. Maybe a threaded pipe 45 street fitting and a nipple. But you'll have to check the ID of the muffler pipe too. The engine should have threads for 1" pipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorseVH 110 #8 Posted 12 hours ago Thanks guys! It looks like the metal strap that comes off it it across the bottom has a bolt to the engine. Is it just mounted wrong and I can turn it? If so, anyone have a pic of the correct mounting up close? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,707 #9 Posted 12 hours ago You can't just turn that muffler horizontal. The bolts holding it to the engine won't line up. WH used mufflers that attached to a pipe nipple between it an the engine so I'm not sure what's up with that set up. Doubt it's WH factory but maybe someone else's factory. I don't ever remember seeing a maroon hood tractor with a vertical muffler but I'm no expert on the newer stuff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moparfanforever 893 #10 Posted 11 hours ago Wheel Horse tractors of that era used that vertical style muffler when it had a K series engine. Tractors with the Magnum engine had the horizontal style muffler. Wish I could help with your snow blower dilemma!! The belt situation does seem odd. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 7,434 #11 Posted 10 hours ago Typical muffler on 1985 and 1986 single cylinder Kohlers. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 10,371 #12 Posted 3 hours ago 1989 with Magnum and 1986 with K-series muffler configuration. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moparfanforever 893 #13 Posted 2 hours ago Maybe you could only use the single stage blower on the tractor?? The belt setup seems to be different on a single stage. I guess you could swap to a pepper shaker muffler to clear the belt, if you can get the allen bolts out of the block. Not the best situation, just an idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 75,125 #14 Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Moparfanforever said: pepper shaker muffler Gravely muffler works too. That's what's on my C160 Automatic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorseVH 110 #15 Posted 50 minutes ago Ah, ok photo evidence that this is factory after all. That helps. How different is the magnum engine from the K? Any chance I can get a magnum muffler on it? I saw aftermarket shower head/pepper shaker styles for this engine but they seem to all come without the pipe between the muffler itself and the engine. Given it is not my machine, I would love to just find the right thing online, have my brother in law order it and have it sitting at his house so I could go over and put it on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 7,434 #16 Posted 4 minutes ago The engine blocks are the same the Magnum muffler will bolt up, but you will need the weird pipe angle required for the Magnum muffler. That pipe angle is not a standard fitting. The pepper shaker muffler just needs a short piece of 1" black pipe and a pipe clamp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
