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Bye Bye Idiot Light, Hello Voltmeter

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This was a simple idea, which, as usual, I made more complicated. :rolleyes:


The battery indicator light bulb (idiot light) on my GT18 was missing, and after installing a bulb, I found that the battery light was always ON, even though the charging system checked out perfectly. A quick check led me to a faulty battery light module, which contains a voltage comparator circuit. The failed module is probably why a previous owner removed the bulb. Here's the culprit:

 

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A new OEM battery light module was WAY too expensive. I saw some generic aftermarket modules for less cash, but instead of staying with the old idiot-light system, I decided to have some fun and replace it with a voltmeter. The voltmeter would have to fit in the little plastic trapezoidal cavity that was the former home of the battery light, so I poked around a bit and found some miniature, low-cost, self-powered, two-wire voltmeters. There are tons of these on eBay and elsewhere. Be careful to check the specs, as there are a lot of variants.

 

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The ones that were already potted (above right) wouldn't fit unless I modified the dashboard, due to the wires coming out of the side, and I'm trying not to be too 'invasive' as to any upgrades, so I opted to use one of the other voltmeters and pot it myself. One of those would easily fit into the battery light cavity if I clipped the two mounting ears off the circuit board. I did a preliminary potting step by applying a dab of non-corrosive, non-conductive silicone onto the little circuit board, being careful to squish the silicone to fill in any voids. I didn't think it was worth setting up a vacuum-impregnating rig.

 

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The next step would be to make a cast around the voltmeter in the battery light cavity, using some two-part urethane rubber casting resin that had been sitting around on a shelf for a while, and I wanted to start using it before it went past its use-by date.

 

However, before making a cast around the voltmeter, I decided to make a test casting. I applied a coat of PVA mold release on the inside of the battery light cavity.

 

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I then mixed the urethane rubber resin and poured it in. After it cured, the test piece came out fairly easily and looked good.

 

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The next step would be to do the actual casting around the voltmeter (see my next post).


 

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pfrederi

Good Luck.  I bought a set of 3 of the cheap voltmeters just like yours from amazon to use on my big tractors.  They last a few weeks all three failed 

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Blue Chips
18 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

Good Luck.  I bought a set of 3 of the cheap voltmeters just like yours from amazon to use on my big tractors.  They last a few weeks all three failed 

 

We'll see how it goes. A friend who has an old Dodge M37 like mine installed one a few years ago, and it's still in operating order. I'm guessing that potting it should help a great deal, since the circuit board and its components look quite delicate to me, and I think it could be subject to failure from vibration. The non-corrosive/non-conductive waterproof potting should also protect it from corrosion-related failures.

 

 

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ri702bill

And the potting helps to seal out moisture too... Excellent alternative choice, excellent results. And a full scope post too.

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kpinnc
8 hours ago, Blue Chips said:

works great

 

Looks great as well. :thumbs:

 

8 hours ago, Blue Chips said:

We'll see how it goes.

 

I've had mixed luck with the digital volt meters, but I agree- they work for years or quit in a couple weeks. The round ones I've been using seem to hold up well for a long time. 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, kpinnc said:

I've had mixed luck with the digital volt meters, but I agree- they work for years or quit in a couple weeks. The round ones I've been using seem to hold up well for a long time. 

 

The components, traces, and IC legs on the little voltmeter circuit board are so close together that even the slightest bit of corrosion (or wetness, especially with any ions in solution, such as from salt) might cause a failure. And vibration could break the leads if they're not secured. I think that potting or otherwise sealing or isolating the circuit from the elements is very important for it to survive in an outdoor setting. The PC boards in the round instruments are probably sealed or potted somehow.

 

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Handy Don
4 hours ago, kpinnc said:

I've had mixed luck with the digital volt meters, but I agree- they work for years or quit in a couple weeks. The round ones I've been using seem to hold up well for a long time. 

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I went with a marine model round digital voltmeter thinking it would have better sealing against dust and maybe handle vibration. Three years and still going. 

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Blue Chips

Bending the lead wires a few times while handling one of the un-potted voltmeters was enough to break off the red lead wire at its connection point, where solder in the copper strands creates a stress riser.

 

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To protect against this kind of damage, I potted the voltmeter in such a way that the leads are well secured against bending anywhere near the solder joint on the board.

 

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