What are the dates for the WHCC Big show 2026

[953 nut 62,174]

Looked on the WHCC Facebook page but found nothing.

Going further down the internet search options I found this helpful AI offering.                     Don't think AI has their s**t together. 

The Wheel Horse Collectors Club has not yet announced its official 2026 show schedule, but some dates are being discussed or tentatively planned for later shows, such as the Third Saturday of September 2026 or December 13, 2025, and January 10, 2026. You can stay updated by following the club's social media or checking their website for announcements.

Could someone who actually knows fill us in.                     

[c-series don 10,563]

I believe it’s the 26th and 27th this year. But for some of us really crazy people it’s turned into Thursday,Friday and Saturday. Not just Friday and Saturday! Usually by Saturday after my wife leaving me there for the three days she says “Haven’t you had enough of this?” And my answer is always no! 

[953 nut 62,174]

It has always been the weekend after Father's day but that would be July 3 and 4 this year.

[Pullstart 68,181]

Ohhh that’s interesting.  Freedom AND Wheel Horses?  
 

Wild Bill would have to have some firecrackers strapped to his boots for the Friday night cruise!

[squonk 44,625]

9 hours ago, c-series don said:

I believe it’s the 26th and 27th this year. But for some of us really crazy people it’s turned into Thursday,Friday and Saturday. Not just Friday and Saturday! Usually by Saturday after my wife leaving me there for the three days she says “Haven’t you had enough of this?” And my answer is always no! 

The even crazier folks like me have even started the festivities on Wednesday! 

 

[squonk 44,625]

1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

It has always been the weekend after Father's day but that would be July 3 and 4 this year.

The 21st is Father's day so the 26th and 27th

[Handy Don 14,658]

3 hours ago, squonk said:

The 21st is Father's day so the 26th and 27th

Whew!

[953 nut 62,174]

4 hours ago, squonk said:

21st is Father's day

AI had it as the 28th       went back and looked at other sources and found the 21st.

[JoeM 8,899]

With AI messing up the show I wondered what Grokipidia would bring up about WH.

path to full story https://grokipedia.com/page/Wheel_Horse

 

[953 nut 62,174]

33 minutes ago, JoeM said:

I wondered what Grokipidia would bring up about WH.

Looks like they plagiarized  MichaelMartino's "Straight From the Horse's Mouth" 

[JoeM 8,899]

2 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Looks like they plagiarized

got me thinking and went and looked.

 

Nothing in reference to that writing. Not saying someone else got the info there. I do see some comes from Wikipedia, which would explain.

I do see the last two wheel horse club and wheel horse collectors club too.

 

[Treepep 846]

 

AI is like a one year old.  AI will get there and I can fight the rising machines.  NOW it is still soiling itself and mostly fumbling around  I would like to go to a

 

show before I am done.  Notin the cards this season.

Edited Thursday at 10:55 PM by Treepep
I need a new computer. Keys sticking

[rmaynard 16,589]

Always the weekend following father's day. 

Father's day 2026, June 21

WHCC

Thursday 25

Friday 26

Saturday 27

 

NEVER EVER TRUST AI

Edited Thursday at 11:33 PM by rmaynard

[953 nut 62,174]

OK, got my room booked,         

[Handy Don 14,658]

On 11/6/2025 at 4:42 PM, JoeM said:

got me thinking and went and looked.

 

Nothing in reference to that writing. Not saying someone else got the info there. I do see some comes from Wikipedia, which would explain.

I do see the last two wheel horse club and wheel horse collectors club too.

 

 

The AI companies are grabbing whatever online and printed material they can for training and all the while claiming it is “fair use.” So far, there has been little or no direct accountability that turns into revenue to the content creators. There have been a small number of settlements and promises to pay. With most politicians investing in AI stocks, don’t expect to see that change. Authors and websites are working to put more content out of reach of the AI training systems. Once more and more of the latest information becomes unavailable for training, the AI companies will either resort to paying or see their products become less valuable.

That said, the “agenic” systems will prosper because the companies that want to take advantage of this technology typically own, or at least can get, the data needed for training. 

[JoeM 8,899]

3 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

companies are grabbing whatever online

yeah, I absolutely think int internet needs some kind of standard regulation. Similar to FCC. 

As long as there is no laws there will be no change and it will remain the wild wild west free for all. 

[953 nut 62,174]

2 hours ago, Handy Don said:

AI companies are grabbing whatever online and printed material they can for training and all the while claiming it is “fair use.”

Out of curiosity I looked up a couple of the tractor companies I had covered last year in Tractor Trivia and some of what AI had was verbatim from Red Square. Of course all of this information was obtained on the internet and just rephrased by me and it wasn't copyright protected so no harm done in my mind. I just took random information and put it in a narrative form to share with others.

[Handy Don 14,658]

17 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Out of curiosity I looked up a couple of the tractor companies I had covered last year in Tractor Trivia and some of what AI had was verbatim from Red Square. Of course all of this information was obtained on the internet and just rephrased by me and it wasn't copyright protected so no harm done in my mind. I just took random information and put it in a narrative form to share with others.

Exactly. Like the Big Show being on the July 4th weekend? Who is to say that your commentary was truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yet the AI you consulted thinks it worth repeating!? Will readers making similar queries simply take it as face value?

 

This is WAY off topic, but...

Also, the content issue isn’t just relatively “open source” internet stuff. AI companies first buy a single copy of a book, magazine, scientific paper, or other printed material. Then they scan it from image to machine-readable text. They hire low way humans to make sure the capture is correct, and then they feed that content into their model. Thousands upon thousands of documents. No permissions, no footnotes or attribution, no royalties. Copyright? Sue me! So classic immense money and power resist relatively powerless individuals. So far in these suits there has been only a token slap on the wrist or payment. Fair?

FWIW, in my last job before retiring, I worked on training large language models and I can tell you that we had no way (at least then) to correct an error other than to find and exclude the “bad” source data source and then fully retrain the model. (I made sure our employer had permission to use our training data.) A plausible analogy is that LLMs are like children; they believe and take literally everything they are told because, so far, they lack the capacity and skill to filter. And, while LLMs do sort of make judgements, what is mostly unknown is how to either set standards, tenets, credos, and ethics or how to enforce them. Yet, I see students blindly trusting whatever comes out of ChatGPT, Gemini, and others. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Handy Don

[SylvanLakeWH 29,337]

It is disheartening and frankly sad that AI is viewed as a good and valuable resource. It is default "off" on every device I have - including work. The flat out nonsense it generates on stuff that doesn't matter should scare the pants off us enough to realize we shouldn't be using it for stuff that does. Alas, I am confident I am and will be increasingly in the minority...

 

[953 nut 62,174]

2 hours ago, Handy Don said:

find and exclude the “bad” source data source

I have no doubt that AI will become a valuable tool for medical and scientific research within a cloistered environment where invalid outside influences will not skew the results. If it is monitored to exclude "bad source data" and recognizes "one off" exceptions to a pattern it should be able to speed up medical diagnosis.

The social use of AI is not what it was intended for and obviously it needs some fine tuning. 

[Handy Don 14,658]

1 hour ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

It is disheartening and frankly sad that AI is viewed as a good and valuable resource. It is default "off" on every device I have - including work. The flat out nonsense it generates on stuff that doesn't matter should scare the pants off us enough to realize we shouldn't be using it for stuff that does. Alas, I am confident I am and will be increasingly in the minority...

 

By tomorrow ChatGPT will have been trained on the contents of your post after they scrape this site--and it will remember what you (and I) said!   

[SylvanLakeWH 29,337]

47 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

By tomorrow ChatGPT will have been trained on the contents of your post after they scrape this site--and it will remember what you (and I) said!   

Sad, but true. I have tested it on some very specific WH items and it was complete bs... AI "learns" from crap and fact... create a bot that generates false info, repeat, and it becomes fact to AI...

 

See you next December 37th at the WHCC in Peoria...