David414 298 #1 Posted 20 hours ago I have a 1989, 414-8 that I will change over to the front 520 swept axle. Two questions: Will a snow blade and its frame, from a Toro 520xi, fit my 414-8 tractor with the swept axle without modification or additional parts? I know that my current blade frame needs the rear extension to lengthen the blade frame to clear the front tires, but what else do I need to make it work on the swept axle change over? A different handle, different lift mechanism, etc? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 8,794 #3 Posted 14 hours ago 5 hours ago, David414 said: A different handle, different lift mechanism, etc? I have went the other direction using a 520 plow on an xi. This is what I came up with going in your direction. Hope this helps. If you were close I would trade you. As odd as this may seem, the lift connection on an xi is about 5 1/2" closer to the rear axle bracket mounting pin. You will have to come up something for this to work. Also, there is some uncertainty with the blade pivot handle assy. It will be moved rearward too not sure if there is a clearance issue? As far as the tube clearing the foot pan. See pics. Due to the plow frame being longer a stabilizer might be necessary in the front at the axle area? If measuring from the plow pivot bolt toward the rear of the plow. 520 with extension measures 68" to the rear axle pin and 44 1/2" to the lift link connector. (23 1/2" from the rear axle bracket pin to the lift connector) (the extension adds 4 1/2" to a standard long frame plow) 520 W/extension pivot and lift link measured from the front plow pivot bolt XI is 70 1/2" to the rear axle pin and 52 1/2" to the lift connector. (18" from the rear axle bracket pin to the lift connector) XI pivot and lift link measured from the front plow pivot bolt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David414 298 #4 Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, JoeM said: I have went the other direction using a 520 plow on an xi. This is what I came up with going in your direction. Hope this helps. If you were close I would trade you. As odd as this may seem, the lift connection on an xi is about 5 1/2" closer to the rear axle bracket mounting pin. You will have to come up something for this to work. Also, there is some uncertainty with the blade pivot handle assy. It will be moved rearward too not sure if there is a clearance issue? As far as the tube clearing the foot pan. See pics. Due to the plow frame being longer a stabilizer might be necessary in the front at the axle area? If measuring from the plow pivot bolt toward the rear of the plow. 520 with extension measures 68" to the rear axle pin and 44 1/2" to the lift link connector. (23 1/2" from the rear axle bracket pin to the lift connector) (the extension adds 4 1/2" to a standard long frame plow) 520 W/extension pivot and lift link measured from the front plow pivot bolt XI is 70 1/2" to the rear axle pin and 52 1/2" to the lift connector. (18" from the rear axle bracket pin to the lift connector) XI pivot and lift link measured from the front plow pivot bolt. Joe, thank you. Very helpful information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,427 #5 Posted 2 hours ago @David414 the 2 lever swing points on the frame ? excellent place for 2 SHOULDER BOLTS ? regular bolt set up is sloppy and binding , a SHOULDER BOLT allows you to FLAT WASHER A PERFECT , hold AND MOVEMENT SWING AREA , with flat washers , add an ELASTIC LOK NUT , add red aerosol lubricant as you go , tell me how that moves , also the BLADE SWING QUADRANT , SLIDE PIN . that entire set up is run by the squeeze lever spring , have this in place for years , been bombproof . a detailing of horse attachments and functional detailing , is what really transforms their ease of use , pto drive set up , mower deck detailing , makes for a dramatic difference in operation . often call those areas , gold mines for improvement , how about the sloppy pto lever start point , on side of battery tray ? another great spot , hiding in plane site . make it better , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites