800 Special & 50” Sickle

[peter lena 9,492]

@Manicmacanic  found it !  https://www.google.com/search?q=snap+pin+coil+pin&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS866US866&oq=snap+pin+coil+pin+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg90gEJMzMzNjZqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#oshopproduct=pid:14476869342826026615,oid:14476869342826026615,iid:15958334489552840822,pvt:hg,pvo:3&oshop=apv&pvs=0  called snap pin coil tension  pin , have it on my 3 horses , lets you  easily connect  to frame mounted  hitch pin clip , rounded end . like a medium tension hook ended pull spring  to stop  related  linkage noise , your first photo  shoes the original clip , this type with  small corner  tension circle , is a perfect  spring  pull tension point  . all my  pto, s  are quiet running  , no buzzing .  couple bucks . you might  turn it and frame hitch pin clip , around so it can work inside of the belt drive . just an idea , pete

["Manic-Mechanic" 1,353]

1 hour ago, peter lena said:

@Manicmacanic  found it !  https://www.google.com/search?q=snap+pin+coil+pin&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS866US866&oq=snap+pin+coil+pin+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg90gEJMzMzNjZqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#oshopproduct=pid:14476869342826026615,oid:14476869342826026615,iid:15958334489552840822,pvt:hg,pvo:3&oshop=apv&pvs=0  called snap pin coil tension  pin , have it on my 3 horses , lets you  easily connect  to frame mounted  hitch pin clip , rounded end . like a medium tension hook ended pull spring  to stop  related  linkage noise , your first photo  shoes the original clip , this type with  small corner  tension circle , is a perfect  spring  pull tension point  . all my  pto, s  are quiet running  , no buzzing .  couple bucks . you might  turn it and frame hitch pin clip , around so it can work inside of the belt drive . just an idea , pete

That’s the type I use, and I grind the one little protruding metal bit so it can’t turn and scrape the cone pulley.

So if I use a spring as you suggest, that would benefit as well. So the spring goes to where exactly off that clip? Frame hitch pin? Can you get a picture of one of yours? There’s also a way to use a spring on the throw lever, we discussed this quite a ways back whenever I first built the 800 Special.

Edited Thursday at 10:55 PM by "Manic-Mechanic"

["Manic-Mechanic" 1,353]

Here you go, this style clip!

wobble box ready for oil (take note of the anti-seize on the plug)

 

Edited Friday at 04:01 AM by "Manic-Mechanic"

[Pullstart 68,397]

16 hours ago, "Manic-Mechanic" said:

super thin rub of Ultra Black RTV

I do that often.. at least on one side.  Some people use chapstick, to give that wax ring style seal, but not stick together.  That’s a hot rodder carburetor trick some old guy at work (my boss) taught me!

[peter lena 9,492]

@Manicmacanic  glairing to me ,regularly  look at  ease of functional operation , EVERYWHARE , BASICALLY  HOW CAN I , IMPROVE THIS ? your related FRAME MOUNT ,  to swing arm   is called a hitch pin clip , simply changed direction of pin   circle mount s to  allow an extension spring  for a  noise stopping /  clearance verified , connection . done a lot of this simple type of  problem  eliminating , circle to circle  spring tension stops the buzzing  hardware  noise .  regularly do this type of  trials .also related to this, is pulley  lubrication issues , INCREMENTAL  bearing hang ups , regularly  starts a BELT BOUNCE . thats a whole  different issue . thats what led me to  a  grease , clean / change out , in every related bearing  , on decks , have this in play for years  , no noise or vibration , or bearing failures , also have smooth / quiet  pto lever engagement  , never burned out a clutch disc . working on a tire  chain idea now , pete     

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2 hours ago, Pullstart said:

I do that often.. at least on one side.  Some people use chapstick, to give that wax ring style seal, but not stick together.  That’s a hot rodder carburetor trick some old guy at work (my boss) taught me!

Yeah, that’s great for stuff you must open up more than once, I certainly hope this won’t be the case!

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38 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@Manicmacanic  glairing to me ,regularly  look at  ease of functional operation , EVERYWHARE , BASICALLY  HOW CAN I , IMPROVE THIS ? your related FRAME MOUNT ,  to swing arm   is called a hitch pin clip , simply changed direction of pin   circle mount s to  allow an extension spring  for a  noise stopping /  clearance verified , connection . done a lot of this simple type of  problem  eliminating , circle to circle  spring tension stops the buzzing  hardware  noise .  regularly do this type of  trials .also related to this, is pulley  lubrication issues , INCREMENTAL  bearing hang ups , regularly  starts a BELT BOUNCE . thats a whole  different issue . thats what led me to  a  grease , clean / change out , in every related bearing  , on decks , have this in play for years  , no noise or vibration , or bearing failures , also have smooth / quiet  pto lever engagement  , never burned out a clutch disc . working on a tire  chain idea now , pete     

You know that is a simple thing, now that I get where you’re going with the spring, long as it doesn’t interfere.

Another challenge will be the sickle bar and related vibrations

[peter lena 9,492]

@Manicmacanic  often refer to  using a roller stool , so i can  look at / watch  what's going on , ironically  many corrections / eliminations  , are  a small adjustment away  .  did a lot of that  on my first  plow frame , heim joint conversion / steering quadrant  detailing , squeeze lever  function was the  main issue  in swing ease ,  original  bolt nut  connections , were restricting  , initial  swing . cure for , bolt / nut  setting  / function ?  simple SHOULDER BOLT  , ensuring  solid / smooth swing , flat washers  let you  get a  perfect  smooth / easy swing , having a helper  to engage anything  , lets you WATCH  WHAT IS SCREWING UP . roller stool  , lets you comfortably , look at every phase . try out a shoulder bolt  , with  flat washers  , regular nut ? dial in a perfect lubricated swing , tension ,   movement , then remove regular nut  and replace it with an ELASTIC LOCK NUT  , to hold that  setting , easy , pete   

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2 hours ago, peter lena said:

@Manicmacanic  often refer to  using a roller stool , so i can  look at / watch  what's going on , ironically  many corrections / eliminations  , are  a small adjustment away  .  did a lot of that  on my first  plow frame , heim joint conversion / steering quadrant  detailing , squeeze lever  function was the  main issue  in swing ease ,  original  bolt nut  connections , were restricting  , initial  swing . cure for , bolt / nut  setting  / function ?  simple SHOULDER BOLT  , ensuring  solid / smooth swing , flat washers  let you  get a  perfect  smooth / easy swing , having a helper  to engage anything  , lets you WATCH  WHAT IS SCREWING UP . roller stool  , lets you comfortably , look at every phase . try out a shoulder bolt  , with  flat washers  , regular nut ? dial in a perfect lubricated swing , tension ,   movement , then remove regular nut  and replace it with an ELASTIC LOCK NUT  , to hold that  setting , easy , pete   

Lay on the ground too..

["Manic-Mechanic" 1,353]

Here I have the box with about 22oz of 30wt to watch for drips awhile

 

Edited Friday at 09:38 PM by "Manic-Mechanic"

["Manic-Mechanic" 1,353]

Test Run prior to attachment 
 

["Manic-Mechanic" 1,353]

Here is the sequence for mounting the bar

All laid out

Preparing to install the hidden bolt, using Blue locktite

Inserting the adjacent bolt temporarily to get aligned, leveled enough to get a few threads in on the hidden bolt.

Once those are fitted the hidden bolt is tightened and temporary removed.

Shoe weldment gets attached and tightened

Attached the section bar and make sure everything is aligned and the pin “good & tight!”

Waiting on a 5” longer travel hook as this is an unorthodox install!

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by "Manic-Mechanic"