1056 Key switch.

[Retired Wrencher 5,959]

I am looking for a key switch for the old style starter generator 1056. Just wondering how many amps do you need for the switch? Is it 20-50 or more? Thanks in advance or any help.

[pfrederi 18,812]

If you are going to run direct battery to switch to S/G you want at least 50 amp switch...

[squonk 44,165]

@Retired Wrencher see your 1056 post

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,611]

The 4988 switch was replaced by 7263 which is still available from Toro if you win a lottery.

https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-commercial-7263/

If the switch still operates at all adding a solenoid should give it a longer life.

Then using regular battery cables to the solenoid would reduce the loses in the wiring that you have now.

[Retired Wrencher 5,959]

43 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

The 4988 switch was replaced by 7263 which is still available from Toro if you win a lottery.

https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-commercial-7263/

If the switch still operates at all adding a solenoid should give it a longer life.

Then using regular battery cables to the solenoid would reduce the loses in the wiring that you have now.

Wow Garry I see what you mean. Wow, again. Thanks for the info.

[Retired Wrencher 5,959]

46 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

The 4988 switch was replaced by 7263 which is still available from Toro if you win a lottery.

https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-commercial-7263/

If the switch still operates at all adding a solenoid should give it a longer life.

Then using regular battery cables to the solenoid would reduce the loses in the wiring that you have now.

Would you happen to know how many amps that is Garry? I was told at least 20 if not more when I’m not sure can’t seem to find any information on that.

[Retired Wrencher 5,959]

2 hours ago, squonk said:

@Retired Wrencher see your 1056 post

Mike do you have a simple the wiring diagram. With clear connections. Electrical is not strong suit.

Edited Saturday at 09:34 PM by Retired Wrencher

[953 nut 61,081]

Here you go.

[Lagersolut 743]

2 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

The 4988 switch was replaced by 7263 which is still available from Toro if you win a lottery.

https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-commercial-7263/

If the switch still operates at all adding a solenoid should give it a longer life.

Then using regular battery cables to the solenoid would reduce the loses in the wiring that you have now.

Wheel Horse parts and more ( one of the venders here ) has it a little cheaper  62 bucks - not letting me insert the link for some reason . 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,611]

2 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Would you happen to know how many amps that is Garry? I was told at least 20 if not more when I’m not sure can’t seem to find any information on that.

No I do not know. Have never had a starter/generator on anything.

[Racinbob 12,066]

A Cole Hersee 95521 can be had for less. I believe it's rated at 50 amps. But it's better to install a solenoid so it carries the high amperage starting current.

[squonk 44,165]

Inrush amps to start a k181 is about 80 amps and settles in around 50.This is a smaller engine with compression release. 

Edited Sunday at 09:13 AM by squonk

[Retired Wrencher 5,959]

52 minutes ago, squonk said:

Inrush amps to start a k181 is about 80 amps and settles in around 50.This is a smaller engine with compression release. 

Mike is there a diagram of that wiring to convert to a solenoid.

[953 nut 61,081]

Here you go. Use a 103990 ignition switch.

Edited Sunday at 10:55 AM by 953 nut

[squonk 44,165]

Richard's is without solenoid..

 

Here is with it.

 

Edited Sunday at 10:54 AM by squonk

[Handy Don 14,306]

3 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Mike is there a diagram of that wiring to convert to a solenoid.

K181-specific diagram from “files” section

[WHX?? 52,315]

I know a guy that has them for 45 clams. PM me you want his info Wrencher.

I always have them on hand since most of my tractors are 60s & SG. 

Supposedly they are 70 amp switches.

You guys and your solenoids ... what's everyone got against ORIGINAL these days! 

Edited Sunday at 01:43 PM by WHX??

[Handy Don 14,306]

1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

what's everyone got against ORIGINAL these days! 

 

For me, it was choosing not to wrangle that heavy 6 ga. wiring up to a relatively flimsy connector on the back of the ignition switch.

I did keep the “sentimental” bowl filter! 

[squonk 44,165]

3 hours ago, WHX?? said:

 

You guys and your solenoids ... what's everyone got against ORIGINAL these days! 

My 875 came with a PO installed solenoid. EXCEPT where it was mounted was a hoot. A friend owned it before me and the solenoid was already there. The lift arm/rockshaft was missing on the tractor so I gave him one. He puts it on and raises the lever and  ZAP!!!The rock shaft connected both large terminals together.  A lever starter just like an old farm tractor! 

[WHX?? 52,315]

1 hour ago, Handy Don said:

 

For me, it was choosing not to wrangle that heavy 6 ga. wiring up to a relatively flimsy connector 

That can be a issue. Especially with original brittle wires. Ther has been some French here over that. If I need to replace I fab new ones with trolling motor cable. Flexible and much much easier to deal with. 

[WHX?? 52,315]

This was a po thing on a tractor i restoed. There was a mounting tab on the regulator most don't have tho. 

[Handy Don 14,306]

19 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

There was a mounting tab on the regulator most don't have tho. 

Yep. @ri702bill and I both fabbed brackets since we wanted the solenoid to mount at the S/G to keep the heavy wire runs short. Bill’s work inspired mine. 

[ri702bill 9,697]

I replaced both hexnuts on the endcap with threaded hex spacers to become a pair of tapped standoffs to mount the plate.

Edited Sunday at 05:59 PM by ri702bill

[ri702bill 9,697]

Well, you can't get the wiring much shorter than that!!

[WHX?? 52,315]

1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

wiring much shorter than that!!

One of the reasons I left it like that during resto. 

One of the better PO mods  I've seen.