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Usually these pop out with a punch but this one is being stubborn. Been soaking in PB blaster. So other than drilling. What have you done to remove these pins? 

Also what vendor would have these pins im guessing I might end up drilling it out :/

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daveoman1966

It is easy to see that you've FLARED out the end of the roll pin.  That's what happens when using a flat end punch.  The special ROLL PIN punch has dimple on the end to prevent flare-out like this. Auto parts stores will have roll pin punches in sets for $20 bux or so.   

Roll Pin Punch Set with Storage Pouch and Hammer, 9 Piece Steel Removal Tool Kit for Jewelry, Watches, Rifle Pins and Craft

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enamel
2 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

It is easy to see that you've FLARED out the end of the roll pin.  That's what happens when using a flat end punch.  The special ROLL PIN punch has dimple on the end to prevent flare-out like this. Auto parts stores will have roll pin punches in sets for $20 bux or so.   

Roll Pin Punch Set with Storage Pouch and Hammer, 9 Piece Steel Removal Tool Kit for Jewelry, Watches, Rifle Pins and Craft

Thanks. I'll get one. Never knew they existed lol 

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enamel

Jsut grabbed this one. Oddly enough I have that hammer already lol 

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daveoman1966

I got a Craftsman set about 15 years ago....for $20 bux.  Use them a lot.  Be sure to get Made in the USA if you can.... or somehow make sure they are HARDENED good steel.  Some from China are JUNK! 

  

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enamel
32 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

I got a Craftsman set about 15 years ago....for $20 bux.  Use them a lot.  Be sure to get Made in the USA if you can.... or somehow make sure they are HARDENED good steel.  Some from China are JUNK! 

  

Looking online for the ones I bought are theyre based out of Australia. I didn't see any bad reviews and lots of good things to say. 

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ebinmaine
4 hours ago, enamel said:

Been soaking in PB blaster. So other than drilling. What have you done to remove these pins? 

IMHO that particular "penetrating oil".. doesn't. 

 

 WD-40 PENETRATING OIL or  Liquid Wrench PENETRATING OIL. Note the caps. 

Both companies sell various products. 

Kroil is probably the cats meow but it's over $20/can now. 

 

 

To drill that pin you'll need a carbide or cobalt drill bit. 

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JCM
1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Kroil is probably the cats meow but it's over $20/can now. 

 

 

 

Two months ago I asked what the Kroil was going for at a local Auto parts store.  $ 39.00     :confusion-confused: 

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ebinmaine
32 minutes ago, JCM said:

Two months ago I asked what the Kroil was going for at a local Auto parts store.  $ 39.00     :confusion-confused: 

 

 

WOW 😮

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JCM
6 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

WOW 😮

And that was in New Hampshire with no sales tax.

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rmaynard

When driving out a roll pin, make sure that you have whatever you are trying to remove it from backed up with some type of "anvil". Any movement in the device while striking the pin will take away power needed to push it out.

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Achto
7 hours ago, enamel said:

Also what vendor would have these pins

 

Should be able to get a new roll pin at any hardware store. They are a common size.

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lynnmor
1 hour ago, rmaynard said:

When driving out a roll pin, make sure that you have whatever you are trying to remove it from backed up with some type of "anvil". Any movement in the device while striking the pin will take away power needed to push it out.

 

That is likely the reason he was having difficulty, there doesn't seam to be any rust holding it.

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953 nut
8 hours ago, enamel said:

im guessing I might end up drilling it out :

Roll pins have a split down the side which will cause the drill bit to leave the center and they are hardened and will kill a drill bit.  You need to support the shaft while driving the roll pin. Cut a "V notch" in a piece of hardwood to lay the shaft in and use a roll pin punch.

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Treepep
2 hours ago, JCM said:

And that was in New Hampshire with no sales tax.

 

 

I mean.... If it works I'd say its worth it.  I am not putting it on the rocks with some tonic ans a lime slice!  Its helping me soothe my horse:lol:  OUtta last a minute as well right?

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953 nut
3 hours ago, JCM said:

Two months ago I asked what the Kroil was going for at a local Auto parts store.  $ 39.00     :confusion-confused: 

Did you need a whole gallon?  An eight ounce can at Ace Hardware was about $ 20.00 a few months ago.  

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enamel

I see that oil on Amazon. I might get a small can. I do tend to like my PB blaster ( cheaper and works well)  but the oil would be good for this situation. 

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ebinmaine
9 minutes ago, enamel said:

I see that oil on Amazon. I might get a small can. I do tend to like my PB blaster ( cheaper and works well)  but the oil would be good for this situation. 

 

Wally world sells a 16.5 oz can of kroil for about $32 delivered. 

Once you get that and try it you'll see there's no comparison to your current product.

 

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pfrederi

or on your next Mcmaster order

 

 

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AHS
On 10/4/2023 at 4:35 AM, ebinmaine said:

IMHO that particular "penetrating oil".. doesn't. 

 

 WD-40 PENETRATING OIL or  Liquid Wrench PENETRATING OIL. Note the caps. 

Both companies sell various products. 

Kroil is probably the cats meow but it's over $20/can now. 

 

 

To drill that pin you'll need a carbide or cobalt drill bit. 

WD 40 penetrating oil is $16 for a big can..32oz i believe. Sticker shock!!

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