1970 wheel horse

[upstate yank 219]

well guys I am here again with the issue of my 12 horse kohler with the gas issue ; I did send a notification  a few days back but no replies have shown up so it could be that I did not click on to send it but anyways 'so I asked the million dollar question ;could it be the carb that is causing the issue as gas poring out of the breather in the front of the block or is it the fuel pump as I have been told it could be one or the other ;but as the old saying goes we spend 100 dollars to find a 5 dollar part'

again as I mentioned before I have tried 3 different carbs and it does the same thing ;when I bought this 1970 elector it ran fine up to one day it starting to pour gas out of the breather not the carb breather ;so I bought a used one from a dealer on the evil bay and I have bought from him before and the items were always great so I do not blame him for selling junk as that carb came off the same 12 horse that I have now; and yes the same issue with the gas issues so again back the evil bay I bought another one ;and yes the other 2 that I bought were the walbors  ;my question is why can 3 carbs cause this problem as out of 3 you would think that one will work properly ;then I was told it could be the fuel pump 'so again scratching  my head which item is causing the problem with the gas pouring out once I start it and yes the oil was drained and so much gas came out ;so again I am between a rock and a hard place I will not try to start the motor till I can find out if it the carb or the pump so again I ask your thoughts 

Edited May 17, 2023 by upstate yank

[upstate yank 219]

21 hours ago, upstate yank said:

well guys I am here again with the issue of my 12 horse kohler with the gas issue ; I did send a notification  a few days back but no replies have shown up so it could be that I did not click on to send it but anyways 'so I asked the million dollar question ;could it be the carb that is causing the issue as gas poring out of the breather in the front of the block or is it the fuel pump as I have been told it could be one or the other ;but as the old saying goes we spend 100 dollars to find a 5 dollar part'

again as I mentioned before I have tried 3 different carbs and it does the same thing ;when I bought this 1970 elector it ran fine up to one day it starting to pour gas out of the breather not the carb breather ;so I bought a used one from a dealer on the evil bay and I have bought from him before and the items were always great so I do not blame him for selling junk as that carb came off the same 12 horse that I have now; and yes the same issue with the gas issues so again back the evil bay I bought another one ;and yes the other 2 that I bought were the walbors  ;my question is why can 3 carbs cause this problem as out of 3 you would think that one will work properly ;then I was told it could be the fuel pump 'so again scratching  my head which item is causing the problem with the gas pouring out once I start it and yes the oil was drained and so much gas came out ;so again I am between a rock and a hard place I will not try to start the motor till I can find out if it the carb or the pump so again I ask your thoughts 

 

Edited May 18, 2023 by upstate yank
same post as above

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,454]

I can't see how a carb would flood enough to fill the crankcase with fuel. If it did it would be running out the front of the carb air filter.

My guess is the fuel pump diaphragm is leaking.

[953 nut 59,858]

Did you rebuild one of your carburetors to be sure the needle and seat are working and properly adjusted?

Did you test the fuel pump for leaks as I suggested in the other post on this same problem?

[953 nut 59,858]

Just now, gwest_ca said:

I can't see how a carb would flood enough to fill the crankcase with fuel. If it did it would be running out the front of the carb air filter.

My guess is the fuel pump diaphragm is leaking.

My thought was that if the needle is not seating there could be raw fuel coming in contact with the valve stem and going down the guide. If the fuel pump were leaking enough gas to come out of the breather cover as gas rather than diluted oil/gas mix the fuel tank would be emptied. This person keeps asking the same questions but never posts the results of the tests we suggest in his in his multiple threads on this problem.

[upstate yank 219]

17 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

I can't see how a carb would flood enough to fill the crankcase with fuel. If it did it would be running out the front of the carb air filter.

My guess is the fuel pump diaphragm is leaking.

yes I have to agree with you ;so now it is time to check out a dealer here and buy a new one' thanks for the post as I appreciate it

[upstate yank 219]

18 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Did you rebuild one of your carburetors to be sure the needle and seat are working and properly adjusted?

Did you test the fuel pump for leaks as I suggested in the other post on this same problem?

not at the present time have as I not  had   the time to rebuild one  thanks for the post 

[upstate yank 219]

17 hours ago, 953 nut said:

My thought was that if the needle is not seating there could be raw fuel coming in contact with the valve stem and going down the guide. If the fuel pump were leaking enough gas to come out of the breather cover as gas rather than diluted oil/gas mix the fuel tank would be emptied. This person keeps asking the same questions but never posts the results of the tests we suggest in his in his multiple threads on this problem.

sorry that I have asked the same thing again; I will make sure I don't do it again the thing is like most folks I get quite busy not that you would understand but having your wife of 51 years pass away a few month back I have a house to run ;plus run errands and trying to move on with out her ; really as I have asked was advise and I am sure that wont ask that again either' do have a good life now

[upstate yank 219]

20 hours ago, 953 nut said:

My thought was that if the needle is not seating there could be raw fuel coming in contact with the valve stem and going down the guide. If the fuel pump were leaking enough gas to come out of the breather cover as gas rather than diluted oil/gas mix the fuel tank would be emptied. This person keeps asking the same questions but never posts the results of the tests we suggest in his in his multiple threads on this problem.

sorry to sound rude here but the thing that you  do not understand is the lose of a loved one after 51 years and now try to make it on our own; and yes loosing another income and try to survive it is hard 'so again I only asked if it could be either item that is causing the problem as I really hate to piss money away if not needed again trying to make it on my own now I am sure if you were on my spot you would think the same way;  so due to this issue I have to pinch my pennies so certain things have to take the back seat as bills are due and food 'one day you might be in my spot and then realize what is more important 'sad that I think of her each day and night knowing that she is gone it really hurts .and yes being depressed does not help but again one day you will walk in my shoes as so many others and they say after time things get better what a bunch of bull as it does get any easier 'here is another issue if I can explain ;we are from the upstate new york area moved to Missouri  years back but it is cheaper living here ;so what I want to do is take her back home and lay her to rest as well as our daughter that was a week away from being 21 but a drunk driver took her from us and the cemetery wants 350 for each and they both were cremated ;and sorry to say that I do not have 700 plus the high price gas to travel the 1000 mile trip so again I have to put things on hold as the tractor ;so one day again you will walk in my shoes and see how it is hard and hurts