In-line fuel filter

[bmuone 15]

Good afternoon. I have a 417A..31-17KE02...that I decided to put a in line fuel filter on. After putting the filter on it cranks, runs fine for a few seconds and then starts missing as if starved for fuel. Maybe it is the wrong filter. Is there a right one for this tractor? Tks...Dayton

[sawhorse 0]

The tractor fuel pump probably lost prime when the line was disconnected. Also a new

fuel filter will not pass much fuel until the paper element in the filter has soaked in fuel a

while. If it still does the same thing after soaking you might need to re-prime. Fill the fuel tank. Now don't try this at home folks. It sometimes helps to pressurize the fuel tank. How do you do this you ask. Cup your hands over the fuel tank fill opening and blow into the tank, making sure there are no air leaks. And at the same time your buddy cranks the starter. Voila! Remember that gasoline is toxic and flammable so don't try this at home. But it does work. An alternative to blowing into

the fuel tank is to again make sure the tank is full. Park the tractor on a slope so the

fuel tank is higher than the engine/fuel pump. Crank starter.

[bmuone 15]

Thank you sawhorse....I'll give it a try. It is 106 degrees outside right now so I am working in short shifts. Tks again....Dayton

[Wilsonrl48747 0]

:thumbs2: Sounds like a good way to get a mouth full of gasoline though. There has got to be a better way to pressurize the system....

I would be VERY careful in 106 degrees doing something like that. I take that back, no way would I do that.

[bmuone 15]

Have you ever got your wife to blow into a gas tank when it's 106? Me neither. I mean I even promised her a ride on the tractor! So I did it myself and then I kissed her!! After a short chase. Sawhorse, it seemed to work for a while but then started missing again. I have the back end up over the front right now(tractor boys tractor). I think I'll take that filter off and see if it runs ok then, and start over with the filter. Maybe tomorrow...Tks again...have a goodun....Dayton

[CasualObserver 3,411]

Is the filter on with the flow arrow pointed the correct direction? Shouldn't really make a difference, but you never know. :thumbs2:

[munsonRN 0]

I was JUST thinking about doing the same thing. I have a 417A and no fuel filter on it.

I'm not sure it came with a filter as I ordered a replacement fuel line and due to the length of it it ran from the fuel tank to the carb.

I thought I read somewhere about some sort of screen in the gas tank, but not sure if that is the same thing or not.

Let me know how it works out for you as I am still contemplating this.

[JimD 3,347]

i use a turkey baster with the bulb on it to draw the fuel through the pump. works great. no dangerous after breath, (for us smokers) and next thanksgiving your turkey will cook real fast. wife might get a little surprise though :thumbs:

[bmuone 15]

I did have the arrow in the right direction. When I started this I turned the gas off at the valve at the tank. Screwed it shut. I am starting to wonder if maybe that caused something to clog the line. Or maybe that filter in the tank got clogged somehow. Only thing to do is to wait until I can get to a town and get a gas line splice and take the filter out and try it. DT

[jtmoyer 1]

i turned the valve shut on my 417 and it broke when i went to open it and would only let a little gas through. if i let it set it would run for a few min and then die out. had to replace the valve. when i went to get it out the rubber broke, so i replaced the whole tank, just easier.

[catman81056 3]

There are fuel filters for engines with pumps and without. Don't know which one you have, just an FYI.

[linen beige 15]

It does sound like the shut off valve may be damaged, but if that's not it here's just a thought or two...

Is the gas cap vent plugged? Loosen the cap and run it for a few minutes.

Are the cooling fins clean? At temps above 90 dirty cooling fins can wreak havoc. Temps above 100 can do so much more quickly.

[Raider 2]

How are your fuel lines? Might be sucking air.

[bmuone 15]

Good morning. I took the fuel filter off and put a splice in. The fuel line looked good...until I started pulling the filter out and moving the line around a little. It then became apparent the line needs to be replaced. Cracks easily and little bits of rubber flaking off. While I am at it I ordered a new cutoff value and rubber bushing. When the parts come in I will replace and try again. Thank each of you for your help because every suggestion is (or could have been) the problem. Have a goodun....Dayton