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I went to buy a deck for my sk486 and ended up buyin all of it. The guy was selling his deck from a c160. He still had the whole tractor and was scraping it. Also had a mid mount plow and a leaf vac. he tied to sell the parts a few years back. It's ruff been sitting outside for a few years but that's the fun. The controls are frozen, blown engine (broken con rod), seat is cracked, peddles are frozen +++. The tranny seems good though. Sure looks alot like my sk It id's as a 1974. A quick look at the engine I saw the con rod broke in half. Half left on the piston and half left on the crank.no other damage from first look. The wrist pin feels like it has better than 5 thou. play to the con rod. Here she is 😎🐾🐾

Getting closer.......👍 Really wish I could have sprayed it with automotive paint but this will have to do for a while. Either way she’ll look a whole lot better than her former self.

What do you mean it's not a WH? The wife's early birthday gift. She loved it the moment she saw it.

Nice bike for sure. I still have my Fatboy I had built back in 2006 and have not ridden it in about 4 years. The price on bikes has also come down a lot and a nice bike can be had for a good price. Be safe on it and dont make the wife regret she told you to go get it. Ride safe.

Here are a few shots of the things I had on the trailer. One thing I'm not sure about is the sweeper. I know it's incomplete, but the model says R32. Sounds like a wheel horse number, but it's not labeled wheel horse. Any ideas?

This is my early production 1968 Charger 12, some may consider it a 67. I bought her two years ago from the brother of the original owner. She came with her 42" SD deck, snow thrower, dozer blade and a tub dump. With the exception of some brush painting on the hood and running boards it's originality shines through. I added the caps.

The towel racks errrr grab handles look pretty cool on there

Worked on my 314 with tiller to properly route the lift cable. Noticed that I had somehow routed the cable between the two cross member rods under seat. Easy to reroute with tiller down . Just take cable pin out and remove ball on cable from clevis. Reroute the cable properly and reinstall. Used my 1964 Wheel Horse 854 to move tailer load of yard waste. And mowed with the 1975 B-80 . All before noon. Plus painted an RJ steering wheel I repaired with JB Weld. Used Rustoleum Acrylic Enamel Gloss Black Paint. Two more to do but sanding comes first. The JB Weld Puddy does a great job and dries overnight.

@CasualObserver...Jim @WHX17 has that almost complete one . I have one with all attaching brackets but has a broken corner and nothing for the bagger . Sure be nice to see a complete one mounted. Here’s a ad form back in the day if you need it for the files .

I’ve been looking for a 420-LSE near me for a long time. This one came up for sale about 4 months ago but the seller and I couldn’t agree on a price. Finally yesterday we worked it out and I got it today. It’s not pretty but should be a fun project. It was only about 15 minutes from my house. It doesn’t currently run. Anything other than this model I would never take a chance on something that doesn’t run and the price was right for the condition. Do you think I can save that seat? 😂 The serial number ID tag is missing and the plate on the hood doesn’t have a name engraved in it.

Back at you Jim! Everything will be as right as I can get it. the hood, fenders and all will not be painted. I will be doing all that sheet metal later. I am trying to get it going and Aldon has some parts for me so it will only get so far. She will still need a seat(Ed Kennel has a pan for me) and various other things. Hope to just get her running and moving under her own power. I don't know when I will be able to get back up there. Just trying to make it Jim. And Kyle will get those tires on the 418 if he wants them.

To wrap this up. I went and got an OEM Toro belt 7473 same number as the aftermarket 7473 except it was probably 1/2" to 3/4" longer when held up to the aftermarket belt. I was a little skeptical. Installed the OEM belt and immediately saw I had more clutch pedal travel than the aftermarket belt, Put machine back together and the new belt worked perfectly. Thanks for the guidance to buy OEM. This is apparently critical for this application. Too bad the aftermarket belt got a little dinged up. Can't really return it. It probably works in lots of applications because I saw it got about 4.5 out of 5 stars from most buyers. Thanks to all who chimed in.

It is easy to attach if you have the right hardware. There is a bracket that goes in the fender pan pivot but requires holes to be drilled in the pan. I gave it a try before I took it off and it works pretty good. I'd be willing to part with mine for the price of a cup of coffee & would haul it to the BS if someone wants it. I should put it in classifieds.

It is hard to believe that we are only about 6 weeks out from the Big Show! I really want to purchase this round hood for @Coulter Caleb but I need to find a way to get it from its current home to the BS. I’m happy to throw one of the members some cash to help me by picking it up and bringing it. You would have to have enough trailer/truck space for the tractor with attached mower and the blade. Maybe you are planning to bring something back from the BS to the east coast but will have that open slot on the way to the show... If you are able to help me with this please PM me and we can discuss the details...

better have your head on a swivel Jim—GhostRider is coming for you! He’s a fan of dark horses...

Sunday 6th of May saw the 35th Heathersgill Vintage Rally. Held at Carlisle Airport, Cumbria. A sunny and hot day for a change, saw an entry of 500 exhibits, trade stand and craft stalls. I took my '79 C-81 with finger bar. (Sickle bar to the US.) '78 C-121 (The Black Horse) Modified for ploughing and my '78 Sears/Roper GT16 with B&S twin. Due to being an official, car steward, general dogs body and fount of all knowledge, (so some thought), I didn't manage to get as many photo's as I would have liked. What I did get are as follows. First some of the things for sale in the auction. Restoration project anyone? It's a David Brown. Or was. Couple of hand implements for when men were men and sheep trembled. Shopping transport for SWMBO. SWMBO on the left and friend with stall of her hand painted pots, mugs decorated with her own art work and cake stands she made from old records. Some old cars. Ford Model T. Imported from Kansas. Complete with bullet holes in the doors. Customised Reliant Robin three wheeler. Citroen 2CV and Renault Dolphin. Honda CX500 Tidy, unrestored BSA and Watsonia sidecar. Norton Trials bike. Ex British army Bedford with low loader. Horticultural exhibits. P1020189.JPG

LOL ...he's eyeballin those on the horse .... bet he thinks they would make good pulling tires!

Not sure which ones you are talking about. The ones just above your question are the ones I am running on this tractor. The goodyears on the 418 carcass are just holding it up till I can strip it the rest of the way down. They are tubed and hard as a rock but I will not be using them. The big fatties on the blue Gilson stay on it. I am trying to get a Kubota diesel to stuff in it. Its a shaft drive hydro that my dad and myself threw together.

I'm damn sure not going to mess with the the two wires, my mama didn't raise but one fool, that would be my brother.

Woke up old Charger 12 from her winter slumber and we ripped up some grass. Riding this old girl will really give you a backache. Haven't forgotten that.

Here is my new used c125

You want the litter whisk Jason @CasualObserver it's yours for an adult beverage. I can take it to AJ's and send it home with Tom. I am running out of room to store stuff. The bag is ripped but could be easily reproed.

@ACman you must mean in person? There's pics of the one Jim @WHX17 picked up mounted in his 1277? topic. There used to also be pics of one on a 633 that belonged to @Rollerman but they are dead photobucket links. I can't even find them in grand old google image universe!

Nice haul for sure. The sweeper is a Litter Whisk. Use that as a search term and you'll find a few other mentions from the past. It was an aftermarket attachment, not a branded one.

Pressure lube is even better. They do sell remote oil filter kits which something could be adapted to for cooling but they're kind of expensive IMO. How about aluminum cooling fins that clamp right onto the filter? Couple of hose clamps, some thin aluminum angle pieces with little slots for the hose clamp bands. Backyard Hammer mechanic style oil cooler!

This thread has been about a combination starter/generator that is belt driven off a pulley mounted on the engine flywheel. Later they went to a starter with a Bendix gear that engages a gear around the outside of the flywheel. This system has a stator behind the flywheel that produces AC current that is rectified and controlled by a solid state rectifier/regulator to charge the battery. Two totally different systems. Suspect you have a 1975 model C-160 which uses the alternator stator. The body of the finned aluminum regulator must have a good ground to the battery negative (-). Many add a ground wire from one of the regulator mounting screws to a known good ground. There are two AC terminals on the regulator that connect to the two stator wires coming from the stator behind the flywheel. There is a third terminal marked DC+ and that is the output that charges the battery. With the key ON but the engine NOT running check the voltage across the battery terminals. Now move the red test lead to the DC+ terminal on the regulator. You should have the same voltage reading. If not the wiring is a problem and the charge currant has no way of getting to the battery. Don't forget to turn the key OFF after testing. Make sure all the wire connections are clean and tight. Often the connections at the regulator have been poor and the resistance has created heat that has melted the plastic terminal cover. To test further follow the instructions in the service manual Section 7.7 Let us know what you find. Garry

Summer duty for my snow machine.

Well today I have a set of Wheelhorse wind chimes swaying away in the sunshine. Amazing how quick this stuff sets up in the sun. Bake away. And the only thing left as a testament to how ugly this thing was. Someone went through a awful lot of trouble to get it this way. They actuallytook it apart to paint it the various colors. Sad. Oh well. She’s looking better already. One day I will pull her back apart and do it right but for now it will make her look good and last a lot longer.

A guy that Dan @Achto and I know has this tractor for sale. I think it's a 1277 or 1077?? and would fill in some blanks in my '67 herd if it is either. Dan thinks it may have a 241 in it. Asking 500 with the sweeper which is somewhat interesting in itself. Note both floor boards and stirrups and the condition of the seat. May be worth a look? Thoughts/comments fellas?

Well that didn't take long. Thanks a bunch, guys. I'll get some pics up as soon as I figure out how to do it.

Your '68 does not have a PTO clutch or a front attach-a-matic. Therefore it will require the old style blower that bolts to the frame rails and has the belt disconnect clutch and rod.

Xtreme Outdoor Power Equipment. https://xtremeope.com/p/xtreme-replacement-clutch-for-toro-78-6990-with-wire-harness-repair-kit/ Worth every penny.

@CountryRock put the same on as I. You wouldn't be dissapointed. The OEM clutches are garbage compared to these ....will get you some links if you are thnking about replaceing it.

The DC lights you have now are running on AC current which sounds odd but works. You have likely noticed they only work when the engine is running and the faster it revs the brighter the lights. They are wired directly to the flywheel stator. Don't know what you could replace them with that would be an improvement. I would not want to use LED lights because they require DC current which you do not have. Garry

Free up the rusted parts and put in an engine then put it back to work.

Replacing everything should be around $150 to $200. Well worth it if all of your gears and shafts are in good shape. Beats the heck out of buying a used one somewhere.

Missed the opportunity to grab it property was being cleaned out and someone had taken it before I could get it

Thank you.

it was hard work to turn, those casings are hard - not as hard as a single row ball bearing housing, but still hard going... Full set of bearings and seals ordered - I've cheated on some needle rollers and used caged rather than full complement. Will let you know how it goes, I don't think this tranny will ever work that hard...

You're either really unlucky because you're likely facing a teardown and repair or really lucky because it's decided to warn you instead of grenading. Are you a glass full kinda guy? If I had that happen to me, it's an immediate disassembly. It does look like bearing rollers as moe1965 suggested.

My 1076 would not run good past 1/2 throttle. I chased the fuel system all over the place with no results. Changed the condenser and solved the problem.

You answered your own question. Replace the points and set to .019. Replace the condenser (in my opinion, that's the problem). Also make sure the condenser is well grounded. The new spark plug can only help. Make sure it is gapped properly; .035 for battery ignition, .025 for magneto ignition. Once you know the ignition system is right, you can move on to the fuel system.

Thanks, Lane! Not sure who’s having more fun, the boys or the old man. 😅

And a good days hard work will help loosen stuck rings. Diesels that are not worked hard enough are bad for sticking rings and "wet stacking" as a result. On flat twins, sometimes the oil on start up isnt rings, but valve guides that are worn. They leak oil into the bore while engine sits, then it burns off when she is fired up, as the guides come quickly up to temp, the clearances tighten up and the smoke goes away. Rings that are getting very close to worn out can do the same, but will get worse with more run time. Mike the Aspie

Just a little 1961 model 551, custom... that just happens to sport a stock 22hp Kohler twin.

And Zenith. Do you realize what you “inherited’?? There were 500(?) 420-LSE made (I believe the numbers are engraved on the plate on your hood). Most of us reading this post are just envious of your tractor. Congratulations on owning a 420!

Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Here are photos of my 653. It is 100% original. All decals are present and intact even on engine. Even the carburetor looks like it has never been touched. The plow has never been mounted with the hardware still in the sealed bag. Tires still have a lot of the "knibs" on them. It has only cut grass twice in its life. Cas (additional info edited in) Bought it in 2007 on eBay. It came from Columbus,Ohio.My fiercest competitor for it was Wild Bill. It was his questions to the seller and the fact that he stated who he was that really sparked my final interest in the tractor. Needless to say it did not come cheap. I seem to be the third owner. It was originally owned by an elderly gentleman in a farming comunity and it was only used by him for transportation. Its second owner had it only for a little while and used it only twice to mow an elementary school yard. I don't believe this tractor has ever stayed outside one day in its life or ever felt a drop of rain. With the exception of a bill of sale every other piece of paper that came with it in 1963 I have, down to the engine tag warning to put oil in before using. Everything feels tight like new specially the steering. It was certainly loved by its previous owners as testified by its condition. It has never been touched by paint or a wrench. It only had one diode changed at some time in the past . I can also state that it will stay that way for at least two more generations, since it will not go anywhere during that time.

Ok, this will be a bit of a long post. Back in April I discovered I needed to do headwork on this right when I went to adjust the valves on it while readying it for mowing. Exhaust guide on cylinder 1 walked out enough to smash the pushrod. I reset the exhaust guides on both heads, lapped the valves and put it together with new gaskets all around. Runs like a clock now. In the past weekend I installed new Carlisle tires and a new Xtreme outdoor power equipment PTO clutch. Greased everything up and ran it around the yard a little while ago. It's good to be mowing again after the garbage winter we had. Enjoy a few pics.

My one owner '63 653 shown with a newly aquired, working '62 ST-3072 blower installed.