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@WHX?? If those decals don't want to stay put, I can hand letter them in silver for you. No sense hiding that thing in the garage where no one can see it !! Bring it to the shows where we can camp by our exhibits. Sides, there's nothing you can wreck so bad that I can't fix it. Less maybe you back over it with a truck. Damage factor reminds me of laying tile in my brothers kitchen. We had all the tile laid out & glued down. Went back the next day to start the grout. He dropped something & put a chip in one of the tiles. He was a little miffed & said "Screw it, no one will notice". I said "I'll notice every time I come over". Then I calmly walked over & smashed the tile with a hammer & said "There now we gotta replace it". Problem & problem solved.

The reborn B-80 is now officially complete. The 1976 went from me buying it new at Chandlers in South Bend to a B-160 3-4 years later. It stayed that way for over 4 decades as it got the snot worked out of it. Mowing, tilling pushing snow, dirt and gravel, you name it, it did it. Here it is shortly before the 160 conversion pulling our oldest daughter (now 46 years old) and grandson around. As you can see, I haven't changed one bit. I've painted several engine shrouds and hood letters with pretty good results but nothing beats the decals @Vinylguy makes. I applied the engine letters this morning. When I first put the K341 on it I decided to remove the B-80 hood stand decals with the intentions of getting some B-160 decals made for it but never did. Just as well. Along with the engine letters was a pair of shiny new B-80 8-speed decals. That make everything official. Obviously I won't be mounting the 48" mower deck on it anymore but that was never the intention. This is now dedicated to the snow/dirt blade and will stay that way year round. Or until my next whim.

I needed a garden tractor, primarily for moving my heavy utility trailer around my property. Secondarily, I think I can make good use of a snowplow. I found this C-120 Automatic that seemed to be mostly complete and runs well. It also came with a snowblade, chains, and aftermarket wheel weights. I thought $400 was reasonable. I'm posting here to begin my learning curve as I begin going through it to make it a solid performer. If I develop an affection for it, I may attempt a restore. I have mechanical and paint skills but no Wheel Horse specific knowledge. I'm glad there are online communities like Red Square where I can gain insight!

I bought another one. From what I saw and was advised on here it’s an 87 308-8. Most of this afternoon, I’ve been freeing things and getting it running. It looks worse than it is. I got everything unstuck and running so it’s just minor stuff now. The deck looks pretty good too.

Made up some magnetic transmission drain plugs. Need to JB weld the magnets in yet.

to the Doug. The C-120 Hydro is a great tractor.. It was also my first Wheel Horse around 50 horses ago.

Ah, come on. Doesn't look that bad.

Buy stock in a toilet paper company along with a fire extinguisher outfit ...

My small garden (11 potted plants) did very well this year so for the last few weekends I've been canning like a mad man. Made 13qts of spaghetti sauce, 18pts of salsa, 24 1/2pts of sliced jalapeno's, & some ranchero sauce. I still have a lot of stuff to take care of but I'm starting to run out of ideas. Earlier this week I made some Habanero Hot Sauce. This has a fantastic flavor and then..... about 45 seconds after putting it in your mouth, you get slapped up side the head with the heat. So that took care of my Habanero's and a couple more tomatoes but I still have a very bountiful crop of Jalapeno's to use up. Today I picked 30 Jalapeno's ( this still didn't put a dent in my bounty ) to make some Jalapeno hot sauce. This hot sauce turned out with a great flavor and again it has a delay before the heat gets to you. The heat is no where near as intense as the Habanero sauce. My friend was complaining that he had a lot of peppers that he didn't know what to do with so I asked if I could experiment with them. He agreed so one more round of hot sauce to get going. The peppers that he gave me was a mixture of Habanero, Scorpion, Ghost, & Carolina Reapers. I took this mixture of hateful heat makers to concoct a sauce that has been dubbed "Paranormal Hot Sauce". My plan for this sauce is to ferment it first, so it will be a week or 2 before it is finished. I still have a bunch of Jalapeno's and Poblano's to deal with. If any one has any ideas, I'd welcome them.

I spent most of the day working on the A-100 and as of this moment, I'm feeling like I'll try to save this poor little guy. It might not end up being the best return on investment decision, but I think I can give it a new life and home which is a much better fate than rotting away in the woods. The seat is complete toast, but the mounting bracket is salvageable and I'm hoping will work for a universal seat replacement. The tires and rims... oh goodness! The metal band of the tires were fused to the rims with rust, but with about 38 tools I was able to break them free. A lot of work ahead on these wheels... I power washed everything, sprayed PB Blaster on every bolt/nut I could see and removed a bunch of other items... steps backward to hopefully take steps forward.

As far as the date, probably made in 1976 for the 1977 model year.

There is also the golf ball game Ollie ... Stick a piece of conduit in the ground with a golf or tennis ball on top. Whoever can get the closest with the front end without knocking the ball off wins. Adult version you knock the ball off you have to take a shot...

The beauty of the garden tractor hobby is it's a lot less expensive than hot rods and muscle cars. For $250 you can't really "loose your shirt". At minimum it's $250 to learn everything you need to know about Copar Panzer tractors and that's a much better deal than learning you picked the wrong college major at $60-$80K x 4 years. I'd rather buy a $250 Panzer than owe $32K in student loans for a Creative Writing college degree any day. LOL Finding an original front axle might be a challenge but hunting down stuff is most of the fun anyway IMO. I'm no Panzer expert but lots of changes and mods to that front end went on. What and why? Ask the owner. Just

We are all good. My house was struck by lightning around 8 AM on Friday, and I mean we got tagged. Blew out a couple ceiling fans and a TV inside. Blew the entire soffit off around an exterior flood light and a gutter. Burned up two small trees closest to my house. I’ve stood close to 105mm howitzers and tanks while firing, and this was considerably louder. Needless to say, all five members of my family had to change our shorts… But otherwise we just got a lot of rain. So many folks up in the mountains took the brunt of this storm, and they are in bad shape. Me personally, well we got lucky in my opinion.

Hello all! Over the years I have restored old ISUZUs, mopeds, motorcycles and campers, but never set a finger on a tractor. I just picked up this guy today, first Wheel Horse and post here. The seller didn't know the year/model, and I have not been able to find an identification plate. Lots of searching has me thinking it might be a 1973-74 Ranger 700 or 800, although that's a complete guess... not to mention the engine looks newer which is throwing me off even more. Any thoughts on what this might be? Thanks in advance! Jonathan

Fiery jet powered plow tractor (drivers)

Thanks @WHX??. Pretty much everything I have bought and restored to date have been misfits... it's how I roll I guess. Jonathan

I like this idea. Normally I just free hand mine with a brush. Not perfect, but not too bad. Getting harder now that my eye sight is starting to take a crap.

Painting the raised letters. Cover the letters and adjacent area with rubber cement and let it dry good. With a razor blade shave off the flat portion of the letters. Paint the flat portion. When paint is good and dry, rub off the remaining rubber cement.

Same here. Six straight days of rain and two more forecast turned my dead grass into a lush green rain forest. If the sun ever shows, I'll be able to hear the grass growing. I may throw an RD on and pull the sweeper.

Like @WHX?? said, we used a plastic barrel. Marked off a boundary that they had to stay inside of. Boundary was about 30yrds log & twice the width of the barrel. Timed event, can add a second on to their time or DQ for going out of bounds. Trailer backing - I set up two stalls, a start & finish stall (painted lines on the ground about 1 1/2 times the width of the trailer). Then two cones. They had to back out of the first stall, do a figure 8 around the cones, & back into the finish stall. Timed event. Our best time on this was 50 seconds. Worst time 3 min. Thinking about trying this event with a 4 wheel wagon next year, ought to be good for some laughs.

I was laughing at @kpinnc ‘s post where he said all members of his family had to change their shorts… Very sorry his house was damaged by lightning though… just didn’t want you guys to think I was laughing about it.

That Panzer is definitely a project. The front axle is a previous owner modification. The missing jackshaft and missing pulleys may be difficult to find, might be best off making your own drivetrain for it. I have a T102

Thanks for listening. I watched a therapy session yesterday and was amazed at her progress. She is having a more painful day today,but the team promised there would be ups and downs. They are working on getting her anemia better because of blood loss during surgery and are trying to do it without a transfusion. I suggested that she try a protein shake that the surgeon wanted her to use and the second hospital okayed it. She has a bit more color this morning and I pray it is helping...

That all depends on what you will be using it for. Nothing wrong with an "A-100" for light duty yard work and cruising the show grounds.

One of the ways I saw chain piling or chain in a box as perfected by Richard Layne, is done with a square steel frame that goes in the ground to accept a chain, at least five feet long and narrow ( less than one inch wide links) that the Wheel Horse operator moves back and forth on the rear of the tractor until most of the chain is within the interior of the steel frame on the ground. It is quite a show when the Wheel Horse operator is skilled at forward and reverse movement with fast clutching and shifting!

p.s.: I just found another document on the forum, wondering if I might have a 1977 A-100 with a swapped out motor?

I can see in your 3rd picture, below the dash the serial number tag is still there , if you can provide us with the information on it we can help you out . Welcome to Red Square .

Guys, I live at the far west end of northwest Florida, (Pensacola) we are about 240 miles west of where the eye came on shore. Got some wind and some gust around 30mph. Our late July and August dog day afternoon can be much worst than that. We've got some friends in Sopchoppy Fl. who lost their barn and part of their roof, they are on the west side (the good side if you can call it that) of the storm about 40 miles from the eye.

The BBT and her Momma spent several hours processing firewood. They brought some up from the area behind the garden, split that, then stacked it. I worked on a few different things in the big barn and basement. Got another Kohler carb in the ultrasonic cleaner. Got the yard trailer lift mechanism bolted on. Got the road trailer in the barn for repairs too. That'll be getting a new front ball receiver, lift jack, and spring bushings with bolts. Also started working on a pair of plates for my hub puller. I'll post those in "Tools". Several tractors got to move around and stretched their legs a bit.

Nice cut !

Well I just fell off my bar stool... Why do you insist on dragging that green crap to shows Jeffery when you have a Panzer like that and a nice ???

I dunno Richard ... no fungus or moss... no trees growing in it... no ants... pan has a nice patina tho... Shaggy Personally I think yer off your rocker. Much better horses out there to resto or even get into shape to work. But as long as it keeps you out of the tavern go for it ...

Apparently the missing individuals have been accounted for and everyone is alive. They just had to walk a bit from the house to get to a spot with service.

to the forum. You picked a very capable machine. Like @ebinmaine said, don't be shy about asking questions. As a group here on the forum, it is very rare that someone has not seen and solved whatever you are asking about. Probably will get several answers. Since it looks like you have the seat and fenders off, take time to clean the cooling fins on the hydro unit. You will want to be careful with a pressure washer around shaft seals, though.

It has rained enough here that the grass has greened up and grown a bit - enough that it will need mowing in the next few days. Enough leaves are down that it will be worthwhile to put the block off plate on the SD deck.

The seat has the big leaf springs like all of my other wheel horses. The little coil springs under the seat are just for the safety switch and bottom out when you sit on it offering no ride comfort. That is done by the big flat leaf springs. I Remove the seat switch on my machines so the little coil springs are not needed.

The C120 Hydro is a great tractor. It will do all you ask of it. here's some notes to help you go over your new tractor. Give this a area a good gentle cleaning. Then follow the maintenace manual and lube the linkage it list, but also don't lube some of the linkage it list. Pased on the engine Serial Number you tractor is a 1976 model I'll find you the sundstrand manual later

I have some family-by-marriage there. My wife's aunt lives there and has checked in. My cousin's wife has family there that so far have been unreachable and she is getting worried.

You'll do just fine with that machine. Whatever questions pop.. just ask.

I am about midway (and a bit south) from Asheville where the devastating flooding has taken place, and Newport TN where large water releases to prevent the Waters Dam from collapsing resulted in more flooding. Only thing I have seen is on TV and the internet. We didn't receive nearly the amount of rain here but do have some roads closed because of mud slides onto the roads and washouts. As of noon today the city of Highlands, NC was cut off from the rest of the world. All roads in and out are severely damaged or closed while downed trees are being removed. One road will be open in both directions by sundown.

I have a couple of these starters. I've noticed the bushing wears out on the gear end. If it's bad enough you might be better off buying a new starter or finding a kit to rebuild the old one.

Glad you're okay and the damage wasn't worse.

The original dozer flat bar on top of the axle housing is replaced with the same made from angle iron with a hole drilled for the spring. Item #23 https://www.partstree.com/models/79370-toro-36-tiller-for-300-series-tractors-sn-230000001-230999999-2003/rear-axle-mount-hitch-3/

Yeah, I had not intended to super hardcore things with it so it may indeed be a fine model for me. I started tearing things back this morning to see exactly what I was dealing with. Despite the outward appearance, things were looking good. Engine spun freely, transmission shifted smoothly then I noticed something... I realize I'm only a day two owner, but pretty sure a fuel tank and system are suppose to be in the big open space! LOL! Might be the cost breaker as thus far I had only seen the need to replace the tires and a tie rod, I'm off to read up on other threads to see what my options are.

Looks good, only needs a good clean up and polish that paint should brighten up.

Agreed KP... right next to a mid mount blade. Wished mine wasn't on a hydro but the lift is nice...

There are plenty of great Wheel Horse implements, but the 36 inch tiller has to be one of the best.

Yeah I’d definitely be mindful of the octane rating since it’s primarily for aircraft. Avgas is definitely not the same as standard ethanol-free “rec fuel”.

Awesome!!