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Working on getting this 1970 32" gear drive deck going again, I found I needed to replace the aftermarket plastic lawnmower wheels on it. I searched the "Parts Department" and found that one of the later 3 blade C series decks I got from @Docwheelhorse had useable wheels with zerk fittings. Both needed a bit of attention - one was worn mostly on one side, the other was egg shaped. I chucked them up in the lathe and trued them up, sanded them with coarse emery cloth. Now they looked like go-kart slicks. Figured why not groove them? Cut them with a boring bar, cleaned up the cuts with the tip of a #3 centerdrill by hand... I call them "Wee- treads"... The rubber actually cut just fine - in the past I have had to put rubber parts in the freezer for at least 2 hours before I could get a clean cut.

C-160, narrow tower, big block Kohler K341 mounted to frame, gas tank under the hood, hydraulics mounted outside of tower, deeper offset front wheels. 1978 C-161, straight tower, hydraulics moved inside tower, first year of gas tank under the seat, battery moved into tower, first year of shaker plate engine mount, Kohler K-341 shallow oil pan engine, shallower offset front wheels, two tailights vs. one. Lip on front of footrest wider, removed turtle/rabbit - slow/fast from dashplate & electric clutch hole, replaced with Idle/Operate. Love them both.

Philippe 52 y o . owner of a Lawn Ranger 1968 , Commando 7 1969 , Raider 10 1970 ,Raider 10 1971 , B165 1981 . also 3/4 Raider 10 1972 and Some spareparts , and a original Wh wagon . The sound of a one cylinder Köhler is like music , thats my addiction . Greetz

Maybe this has been answered somewhere on here, I could not find it. I am finally getting around to cleaning up my Dad's 1979 C161. All original, as far as I can remember, side discharge mower. This is the last of the 4 my Dad had and have decided to just give a good cleaning and leave it as is, patina and all. My Son picked up a very clean C160 and we were curious about the visual/mechanical, differences. Mine has 16 horse Kohler and his has a 16 horse Techy. We had to rebuild 5091 Tranny and next is assemble the rest of his tractor. He wants to do most of the work so we will work on it when he is available. (My 857 is put on hold for a couple of days. You Dads know the deal!) Is more fun when he has his own that we can do together. Surpisied to see we still have WH deals available here in East Texas! If has a thread on the differences here, let me know. Dennis

Shall we debate best starter types?

Oh the carbon emissions... How do you sleep at night...

I started a new rule a couple years back for helping my children with home repairs: I’m glad to help but I am the brains not the brawn.

That is the quote of the day for me. If you are happy with the job they did and no one got hurt doing it you won't remember the price, just the value of a job well done.

Oh i'll enjoy up to the end... I'm talking about after I move on... My hope is to still be giving rides when i'm 94, like my Dad on his last train ride... FullSizeRender.MOV

I wire brushed some hardware so Trina could get the choke and throttle cables back in the dash. She got that in the tractor. We fastened and adjusted the choke to the proper set. She's been hitting the motion control stick with poly a few times yesterday and today. That's now on.

C-160/C161: C161= gas tank under seat, engine shaker cradle, narrow engine oil pan, battery up on tower are the big differences. Other small differences also, my '77 C-160 has twin rear tail lights.

Got that covered too...

I wonder if they did rock, paper, scissors to decide who got to carry the back end of the horse.

Best commercial ever!

Flipping the seal will not work. The lip is designed to work only in one direction

Hallo Philippe from Diest (B) I own a Lawn Ranger 1968 , Commando 7 1969 , Raider 10 1970 . Raider 10 1971 , and a B 165 from 1981 Also , have a 3/4 Raider 10 from 1972 and Some more spareparts . Greetz

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It has always idled way too high. Last night it fired off around 3500+ rpm like normal. I took apart that throttle extension if you recall the kit. It was holding the throttle open a good 1/2” too far. I found a video on synching the carbs with various size drill bits, so I modified that extension, adjusted the carbs and finally after a year got it to idle! With the tires on the ground, it idles “in neutral” and doesn’t creep a bit. This morning, test drive!

Well update I bought them both going to pick them up this weekend. Got the b-165 for 50 dollars that one has its mower deck. both are hydros. I'm going to power wash the C model and get it in the garage and start working on it, my craftsman lt1000 is on its last legs and to no surprise there are not alot of parts available and anything I can find is made in china and barley lasts a season.

Tomorrow, I’ll have to take a test ride.

Air Start. A beautiful truck. @Rob J.

Thanks to all replies. Answers some questions I had....why my Dad's many spare parts included the rubber shock mounts for the motor. He always believed in having spares and never threw anything away. Also, I now have pics of a WH with a tiller and snow blower attached. Have the tiller but no snow blower, hmmm might need one of them, if they could only blow leaves!

The C-160 should have a rigidly mounted motor and the C-161’s motor would be on a motor mount with rubber often called a “cradle mount”.

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@Lee1977 by the way your side picture of your horse , shoes care and upkeep on the unit , thats what I like , the clean look says it all , pete

Mine was not that bad on my C-120, It was only 12 years old at the time, but it destroyed the spindle. I also had a bad hub on my 1989 520 when I got it the bearing was loose, but the spindle was still good. I used the good wheel came off my C-120.

Couldn't resist buying this little beauty. Has electric start etc.

@ebinmaine as you know chinese junk , barely makes anything right . lube/ and lateral firming helps a lot , also better if wheel / tire can slide rather than grip ground for less lateral loading , pete

@Lee1977 found that firming up those bearings and related areas to tougher lubrication , has prevented galling / scoring to movement areas . very solid / smooth . washer up that lateral / side bearing play , thats the killer to bearings . when they shuck / slide impact , side to side , that is their weakest point . washers eliminate that . since doing that to my horses , there is no bearing issues . when I grease the front end its off the ground for better grease coverage , and you can verify how it feels for function . bearings fail when they are out of their strong point and grease that will not hold in place. only a suggestion , pete

Time to go with trailer wheels, spindles and hubs. There isn't a way to fix those wheels they won't hold a bearing tight and will destroy another set of spindles.

Ya, that’s what I was thinking too!! Hard ish to find… C160 and a 8 speed!! Bulletproof combination right there!! Excellent tractor right there!!😀

McMaster Carr has them - but - the depth is certainly greater than the length of the inserting tool. - They call them Shaft Repair Sleeves, not exactly cheap at around $50 plus shipping... I did one once on a Saturn timing cover seal - worked just fine...

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Replacement Packard 56 wire terminals can be purchased at Del City, they will snap right into the housings you have and are superior to any individual spade terminals you could buy. These are topnotch material and hold tight. they are the same as was used at the factory. Crimp them to your new wire and then solder them. https://www.delcity.net/store/Female-Terminals/p_9291.h_150481 https://www.delcity.net/productsearch?search=packard 56

I would install the larger down spouts. I had the larger gutters and down spouts installed on my house last years. Gutters made on site. One guy to make gutters and do the installation of gutters and down spouts and I watched. Ole guys have to supervise.

Thanks so much for sharing , i guess i am gone have to visit Spain, and watch out for front axles.

Us too!!!

I hung out in the garage with @WheelHorse_Kid when he got home. He pulled his c-121 up and we worked on getting his sticky clutch pedal to work smooth. Watched him teach his older brother how to grease the front end on his 856.

It's really coming around Eric, the better half does good work!!! Randy

Hallo, I am from Hasselt in Belgium. I have 4 a 1969 commando 7 and a 1970 raider as well. That wagon is very rare here in Belgium If you have any questions, or problems let me know, have my experience fixing them.

Thanks. That clears that question up. We were looking, but our observation skills are lacking.... When we get them all completed, he wants to have a "Pull off".

Your son has acquired a rare bird. The C160 with Tecumseh engine was made for only one year. 1974. And available as a manual transmission only. Some say as little as 200 to 300 were produced. Most C160 had the Kohler engine like yours. The difference between a C160 and C161 is the years made. The "lean" of the steering tower is the giveaway. First years from 1974 to 1977 had a forward angled tower. Seen here: 1978 and up had a tower front that was straight up and down 90⁰ to the frame.

My only guess. Remove the crank. Fill the groove with JB Weld and sand, sand, sand

@TJ Salyers ever get out west ? car shoes all over , average parking lot , will just knock you out , phoenix az , scottsdale , ROGER PENSKEY AUTO WORLD , probably the greatest auto dealer set up I have ever seen . a hands off dealership , so nobody is hounding you. MULTIBLE BUGATTI,S , FERRARRI , PORSCHE , RR, BENTLY , ASTON MARTIN , BMW , MERCEDES ETC. ALSO A SPECTAULAR race engine set up , and they have their own test track ! street cars out there , are insane , the low riders are a light show you have to see. RENO NEVADA , has a great show also . smell the rubber , pete

I know of a driveway, from back in my younger days, where there is plenty of platinum, scattered all about the drive… not incriminating any hammers and rods for more power or anything…

Is there a way to purchase a different seal that would have the lip in a different location or perhaps a double lip versus single? Thereby changing the location where the seal rides on the crankshaft, avoiding the existing groove?

Here's what Trina put together.

Turn the skis and hit the throttle (WFO) to spin it around and face the opposite direction Plus I'm guess'n Kevin is more of a straight ahead go fast type anyway. Doubt there would be much backing up.