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I hate reintroducing myself, but I've been missing y'all! After a divorce and stuff, I have been putting a lot of things on hold. I have missed the comaraderie of this group! This really is the most respectful and "loving" group I've ever been a part of! Anyway, here I am! I missed y'all!

Hello Everyone, Here are some pictures of the WH 417A that I purchased at the end of last year. I had quite a few questions on the tractor and all of you at the site were really helpful. Thanks, Bob

No sir but welcome to the club anyway. It was lost before this thread. It was lost during this thread. And it's going to be lost after this thread. And all of that is okay.

Yep a copy of the Allis-Chalmers model G. Here is a pic of @WHX24 taking a cruise on our '49 Allis G. Handy design for gardening, I can see why it is still duplicated.

Installed a stack on my ole 71 800 grass cutter.I ordered it from Mr Kemp and couldn’t be happier.Sounds great too !

Kevin, You left out the most important parts! The Bus Stop and my corner!

Welcome back, @posifour11! Somehow I think @Wheel Horse 3D’s mini bike topic got mixed up in here!

Fuel pump is just under the front of the air cleaner. Since the engine is magneto ignition, I just need battery power to crank it over for a test run. Just want to test it/the hydro and makes sure it all works. I’ll hopefully make the wiring harness next. I want to use the push button starter and all original controls on it if I can.

I am a little embarrassed to say but I forgot what type of shrub this is. After all I only panted it years ago. Beautiful showers of clusters of white flowers that then turn into thousands of red berries attracting hundreds of birds.

The serial number tag, and the new key ring, are on the 876, so it must be done.Like all my builds, it's not perfect, but maybe I preserved for a few more years, so the next guy can make it perfect. I had the seat re-made, duplicating the original, as much as possible. With one added bit of flair. I got the generator back today, and it's working. Drove it outside to take pics, and once again forgot about the trans valve. I sure like the looks of those Genny motors.

Over on another thread the gang was kind enough to share some layout info that i thought would be particularly useful for us newbies! Thanks @pullstart @WHX24 and @squonk !!!!

Thanks! That backing metal tip will come in handy. It's another rainy day in Georgia so I'll have plenty of time to get out there in the garage. Not retired yet but work can be slow and boring - I need the WH distraction. I plan to become a welding fiend!

I have a 1/2 ton Harbor Fright chain hoist to lift Kohlers off of tractors on to my Harbor Fright lift table. The table can lift 2 thumpers at once. I have also modified a Harbor Fright engine stand to hold 1.

A motor cycle made from all Wheel Horse parts like the one @wallfish (standing next to it while @stevasaurus takes a ride) built from a snow plow frame is OK.

What kind of competition are we talking about? If its flat out drag or oval/road course Id think you might be ok with that 2 stroke, but if its off road/crawling/mud runs/wheelies you might want to reconsider, forget hp and go for torque- like a big honkin' 4 stroke and pulley swap it for the speed you need. Most of us guys playing with offroading these are running anything from stock 8hp Kohlers to hopped up Predator and Vanguard V twins, and pulleys changed to run maybe 18-20mph flat out. Thats over triple the trans input speed that these Horses were designed for, yet very little if any failures, even on the lighter duty 3/4 speeds, and the only internal modifications done are to weld up or/flip the pinions to lock the axles. I just put new bearings and seals in my 8 pinion 8 speed after MUCH offroading, 14hp Kohler power/ 18mph top speed, and found absolutely zero internal issues. A couple guys are buzzing these things 40+mph and they're holding up, but I cant imagine for long. Have even heard rumors of 50mph+, but he grenaded two already and is going a different route. As for the splash lube, you are correct, but as long as its full of oil, the failure rate is extremely low, even on hard cornering and/or extreme steep/off camber situations. This still blows my mind but its a fact. Ona side note and disclaimer haha- aside from a choice few, most of us offroad guys are all about having some fun WITHOUT destroying these machines! They're old, they're built like a tank, but they're also not made anymore, and when they're gone, they're gone.....

If you drill a little hole at the ends of the cracks it keeps them from traveling later on. Also you can use a piece of copper or brass to hold under the hole while welding. Which helps with burn thru., keeping the hole from getting larger before getting it filled in. Looking good though.

Can anyone ID this?

I know some have seen these before but I was intrigued by the video and the fact now there is a track kit for these Tuff-bilt machines.

I do have enough info....and even a little bit more....Thanks Everyone for the input John

Have you cleaned your points?? Connect your test light to good ground and touch the other end to the small negative terminal on the coil. When you crank the engine the light should flash on and off. If it doesn't clean and reset the gap on your points....018"

The top or bottom half?

i always thought those things were neat looking, but understand why they didn't catch on - @JoeM nailed - farmers don't like change. new fangled tech would have been a big expense and if it didn't work out you'd be stuck with it. i thought the electric conversion was kinda a neat footnote. i guess if you are looking at a 10hp motor it wouldn't take a lot of batteries to meet that need! http://therootdownfarm.homestead.com/GConversion.html at 2 grand for the conversion and who knows how much for the batteries though I'd be continuing to think it was cool and NOT owning one

37.5 Inches wheel bolt head to wheel bolt head

Jim is the absolute best with mufflers.....

I hope after my surgery, Half of it will return!

What's really nice about that is you don't have to twist around to see how things are working ...just look down.

Like you I'm just in the learning process of figuring how how to weld. I learned quite a while ago that my own eyes are a little slower than normal to adjust from dark to light. That makes it a challenge when welding. For my own usage on my own auto darkening helmet I have to leave it at 9 and even that is just a hair too dark. You may find that when you think a light is bright, you need to put three of them to really see what you're looking at through the auto darkening. Keep experimenting with it and please do share the little things that you learn. Like you said, YouTube is great. Limited, but great. As you can see the folks on this site are more than willing to share the little tidbits of information that you may not have already seen.

New bird at the feeder this morning. a male Rose Breasted Grosbeak! I have never ever seen one of these!

The two most frequent causes of a loss of spark would be the PTO switch not being in the off position or corrosion on electrical connectors. To verify that you ignition system is functional you can take a small jumper wire from the battery "+" terminal and connect it to the ignition coil "+" terminal. With this done there should be spark at the plugs.

Pine cone. Get the story straight!

Thinkering a little longer about a Backhoe, not while i need it really, primary only that i have build one for myself. don‘t like to reinvent the Wheel, so firstly studing on some different designs like the above. but the most be very similar just with minor changes. Checking lot of designs at their pro‘s and con‘s to find out what i like best. I used the 3D to design my own but actually all Laser Companies are extreme Busy and a shortest timeline will be sept. and their prices increases dramatically, so i think i will build it in my own handmade Style. I decided to use what i have on hands. Begin with the Steelcutting 1.st part. And ordered few Steel pipes and plates i need for my Project.

I think you can actually see it in this pic.

We had a successful test run with the tiller on the C-145. My son is super happy!!

Well I got up early today to tackle the seat and tires and wheels on the 1075. Got all 4 done, the tires can use a touch more detailing but I am happy for now. So happy that why should I cover up all that hard work with the chrome hub caps? More to come, stay tuned.

There goes my allergies again! Thanks Cas!

So sweet..........sigh!!!!!! one day? yes one day Ill hopefully get one, Im getting too old to lift heavy stuff!

Thanks, EB. It is exciting to try something new and even better to know that I now have an albeit "fractured" capability to repair metal. Maybe I'll attempt to repair the front pin on the old C-120 that is just floating along. The 42" RD cost me about $60 just for 15 minutes of minor stress repair. The $250 or so to get this ability was well worth it. Even the wife is persuaded and that is no small feat. God bless Harbor Freight - the poor man's industrial resource.

Absolute blast to drive I can tell you that. I was concerned about how light the front might feel like a nut roaster but not the case with the long wheel base. Any older tractor worth copying tho that would be it. Add todays power plants and some hydraulics...

You all know the melody: A horse is a horse, of course of course And no one can blow up a horse of course That is of course unless the horse Belongs to Tractorheeeaaad ! Sorry. Couldn't resist. Maybe you have never seen Mr. Ed. I am sure the Tecky will sine again.

@formariz I was a Tech Ed teacher. More a generalist in a wood shop, metal shop, engineering and architectural drawing. Have been a tool guy all my life. Today, retired, there is no one in my life who I can converse with about tools. Having you relate your experiences gives me the opportunity to "talk tools".

You may want to buy a lift table, it is a real back saver and can double as a work area. https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lbs-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-61405.html

Gum story is true. Filled the rad with water and Genny Creme-Ale from the band cooler plus a little water from the ditch.

Sylvan Lake Wheel Horse Still the master in Haiku He always nails it

But Snoopy heres the thing. hp is really just a timed mathimatical equaion of tork. Dont get me wrong when we run 600+ hp down the quarter or even better a big 455 on alky it can shave the nuts of an owel. But if there is no tork youll be playing footsy with the clutch??? And if the ratio between the engine and tranny are changed you are basically under driving it so down goes your speed also. But listen to each there own and building anything different then most can be so much fun too, well as long as it works and doesnt cost a bundle. Personally Id like to try a diesel. HP might be low but the tork is almost always tremendousely back breaking.

Thank you. You are right about the “enigine and transmission “ stuff. Lol. Many of the new kids in my class had no idea what they were getting into when they signed up for my class. They just thought the pictures of the projects we do looked cool. They now learned that it is very hard work to take something from rust to shine . They also learned that it is very rewarding to sit back and look at the results of their hard work. They painted many practice fenders before they were ready to spray the horse parts. Their practice paid off. It turned out pretty good for 9th and 10th graders who never touched a spray gun until this year.

Heindl Implements 1140 West Vassar Rd Reese ,MI 48757 (989) 868-4149 is still in business. They sold a Wheel Horse 414-8 to my wife's Grandparents. They were the oldest (1955) Massey Ferguson dealer. They also sold Wheel Horse , Toro, Argo and Bush Hog. Just picked up belts for the 414-8 last week. Thanks, Tim

Hi everyone. Finally got my 420lse home. It came a long way and now it's home.very happy.

Here's a before. And a progress report pic. Not done yet. 3/4 or so plus the rakes at the ends of the gables. We're having the entire perimeter of the roof trim replaced as well. All Certainteed Vinylboards. All the metal and metal trim is made right North of us in Bridgton, ME. Everlast Roofing Company.

Because i have to rest for a few day‘s some things going slow. so i decided yesterday to improve the charging ability for the Predator. In first try i added an cheap chinese charging Coil to the one that exists, but that was primary purchased to have a coilbase to rework it. The both chinese Coils delivers a max. of 1,5 Amps charging Peak, what is not senseful with the two High power LED Lights. So i used them splitted, one for the Battery and one for battery Charging. To change that, i do my equations and get a result of 230 Windings on that Coil with a 1,2mm Wire. So after the last Coils, i got a rest of Coilwire, i will give it a Try. because i run out of Wire while Winding, i have to stop at 174 Windings, what be far away from the windings i have to do, but i decided to give her a try to get a measured results to compare it with my Calculations. The Calculations told me for this Coils 8,7V by anCurrent of 5-7A, what was still not enough, but we will see what we got measured. Here is the compare between the removed Wire on the left and the new Wiring on the right. I crimped two wires on and protect the Wire with a added coat of clearcoat. That i wound a Foil on it Insulated the open Wires in a heat resistant Covering. The end build a little shrinktube to get it fixed. at least i put a wound of self taping paper on it, to be anle to mark the Coil. with a handwriting description i mount it in place and completing the Engine for a Testrun. The measured results be as followed: at 1500 RPM = 5,10V @ 3,12A at 2000 RPM = 6,75V @ 3,48A at 2500 RPM = 8,58V @ 4,76A at 3000 RPM = 10,39V @ 6,75A at 3600 RPM = 11,98V @ 6,98A This measurements are done with a Voltage regulator and an Capacitor after to clean the Voltage and a oilcooled Dummy Load Resistor with 100W, my used Measureequippment was a Oscilloscope for the Voltage and a Clamp Ammeter for the Current. But after hook it up to the Battery i see a little charge. That will be done by the Coilcurrent in Peak, what can be seen on the Oscilloscope. There is a small fract, where this inducted Voltage beeing used a little to charge, because the Voltagepeaks reaches in top 15,4V AC in idle. But don‘t expect much current, because there is just a fract of the Voltage that can be used. So i guess it‘s less than before on Charging. but however, this give me the good feeling, i‘m not too far from the calculations away.