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I took a flat bar from the pile o stuff and put a twist and a couple bends in appropriate places using the bench vice and a huge C clamp. No heat needed. 11 gauge x 1-1/2" stock. I was even lucky enough to have 2 of the 3 holes where they needed to be. All exhaust and the bracket will be removed and painted. I'm thinking this'll do for now. @Mows4three @LengerichKA88

The C160 I have didn't come with the 2 piece seat so I purchased one from Northern tool. It does look good and is comfortable BUT I wanted an original looking seat. So after making the seats for the lawn ranger and 1054/953 I've decided to give it a try. I did buy a seat that I could make patterns from and I can get very close to original. But with the c160 seat there's a big problem trying to duplicate them , they have designs in the back and the seat. Lines in the seat and the back and the back also has the wheelhorse emblem. I've been working on it since October 2018 and as the weather get better I can get in my garage to make a heated frame to make the designs in the seat and back. I had a die made for the Wheelhorse emblem. But this is the biggest problem I've run into. The back has a 1/6" steel plate that it's glued to and the seat has a 1/32 galvanized plate that it's glued to. I can't make these because it's not cost effective to try to reproduce it. So I can't charge what it would cost me to make a complete set. There for I may make the replacement seat and back that can be installed by the owner if they have the old steel back and seat. Maybe I'll make a video on how to install the new seat and back. Here is a few pictures to show some of the progress I've made. It will still be some time before I get a set completed and ready to install.but I hope to have them at the Big Show this year. Hopefully they'll look like the last picture when I'm done . Ps the last picture was borrowed and it's not mine. Yet

Next update Taking a break from tires and went back to the trans. Installed a drive pulley. There's a pulley groove even though it'll be covered by the belt guard but it may be visible if there's ever a fine close up white glove inspection. Just trying to get as much detail as possible since each part is getting shown and displayed here as the piece progresses. (put the details where you can, so where you can't it doesn't matter) Back to the brake band parts. Built the lever which activates the clutch pulley and pulls the brake band. Went through 5 or 6 broken pieces in different stages of drilling the 3 holes in a small piece. Still going to make it move for now but think it's more of the challenge to see if it can be done. Getting things aligned Got it on which was difficult. The biggest obstacle is my poor eyesight. This took a while! BUT, it moves for now. notice the lever position. The rod for the brake band just slides through the hole for now Back Forward Then prep the lever for the belt's idler pulley. This can't be glued until the frame is on and maybe the engine.

Maybe something to do with the drivers.

IT is just a pipe. We made a few baffles and welded them inside to quiet it down some. I love the way it looks and sounds but because this is going to work at least a couple times a week at the lake I think I will remove it and replace with an original shower head for the summer. Better safe than sorry. The stack has been powder coated chrome.

Thanks everyone for the welcoming......I live in a small town called Strathroy up here in Ontario Canada....some of you might know the big wheelhorse collectors R&B wheelhorse stables in Forest Ontario. Roy and Betty have known me since I was a kid(34now),,,,I started with my 1960 suburban I got from a family friend, growing up every time we would visit them I would sit on it in the corner of their old garden and pretend to steer. When they were moving he gave it to me. I was 14 . When I was in grade 10 I took every piece to high school (minus the frame and transmission) in my backpack and sandblasted it in shop class. My dad painted it. Roy was so impressed that a young guy was interested in wheelhorse. since that time I’ve restored that suburban again but up to the standards of Roy’s wheelhorses. heres the list of my collection gentleman.... 1959 Rj, 60 suburban 400(restored), 61 suburban 401 almost restored( just have to paint the hood),,,,702, 753, 953, 854, 1054x2, 1054A, 500 special( middle of restoring it), a commando 8, C-120 that had a little fire under the hood. Was restored 3 years ago by someone else but I bought it cheap for $150 because it was burnt, I’m going to repaint what needs to be done and all new wiring then sell it. It runs like a top, and I also have a 655 parts tractor plus I’ve got a C100 and 875 all in parts for sale. ive also got non wheelhorse tractors too. (2)64 65 66 67 John Deere 110 round fenders and a 67 112 round fender, a 69 Minneapolis moline 108 and a restored 1974 ford lgt 100. My 67 John Deere 110 round fender is completely restored with a restored Johnson model 10 loader. and gentleman when I restored these couple I’ve done every speck of paint comes off and new stainless steel bolts used. My theory is ya restore right the first time. Will post pictures if I can figure how.

It's been a long day for this old timer, but I managed to get everything unloaded and somewhat put away. I'm sure my arthritic joints will complain for a few days. So, now I can declassify details on this short road trip. I learned of this find through a mutual friend. His friend, Mr. Lenny Haines had acquired the collection when his Father recently passed. Lenny's Father, Mr. Richard Haines (86) lived in Beaver Falls, Pa. Lenny lives 3.5 miles from me, so I stopped and looked at the collection and took some initial pictures. A few days later, I called Lenny and made an offer. He was in NC at the time and needed to talk with his brother. Lenny came home yesterday, and today.....well. Like Mr. Paul Harvey would say, " And now you know the rest of the story". A few more pics of what I found in some of the tubs. 8 speed w/ 1 1/8" axles and hubs. Is there anyway to ID this externally? ie. 8 or 10 pinion, limited slip Hydraulic pump equipment etc. Sickle bar stuff motors round hood parts engine bench tester on wheels with fuel tank, and wiring harness for Ks. WH parts No pics, but there was a complete 42" dozer blade and long frame, a 42" Rd deck, a 42" SD deck, and a 48" SD deck.

I put a electric fuel pump on my 520h. I should have done it 20 years ago.

Is there a casting date on the case?? It is possible that the transmission is a #5073, 6 speed, 10 pinion limited slip. The #5073 had the dip stick, and the brake band was mounted on the cluster gear shaft. If you did see the 1" extension with the fill plug, i would feel comfortable saying it is a #5073...how ever, I think that extension was something that was added later and just may not have been added to yours. Try taking out those 2 fender bolts, shine a good flashlight down one hole and look down the other. If you can see the bolts of the differential...the 10 pinion has 5 bolts...the 8 pinion has 4 bolts. You can try turning one of the hubs "slowly" with the transmission in neutral. If both wheels turn forward, it's a 10, but this is by no means a guarantee...a weak spring could fool you into thinking you have an 8 pinion when you really have a 10. The best way to find out is to open it up...which I would think you are planning on doing whether you are going to sell it or not. If it is an 8 pinion, again, what is the casting date? #5091, 103907, 103916, 103918, 110995 and there may be some more that are 8 pinion with 1 1/8" axles.

I can’t wait to see him train a mouse for the parade night in PA!

Howd He do dat.

It's too bad Wheel Collectors are a bunch of blue collar yahoos like me. If you all were eccentric art collecting millionaires, you too could commission your own piece for the measly cost of 10 grand and I can become a full time crazy eccentric artist. Wallfish Warhol My new haircut after you place the first order!

It's not good business to make things that people won't buy . Why take care of something ..... just THROW IT AWAY ! Not this boy .

What happened to the RJ? I'm think'n Ed is hold'n out and still keep'n some more of the good stuff from prying eyes

pics

There has been a standoff going on just across the county line in Tennessee all morning. Two deputies have been shot. One has died. Deputy Steve Hinkle lost his life this morning. He had just submitted his retirement papers recently. A VA State Police officer, Lucas Dowell, lost his life trying to serve a warrant just west of Richmond about 2 weeks ago. Something has got to give folks! It is a shame when the men and women in blue can’t even do their jobs without facing death over minute things. This world is going crazy. I grew up knowing that the police are there to serve and protect us. They need our respect and support now more than ever! Rest In Peace gentlemen and thank you for sacrificing your lives so the rest of us can be safe!!

A few weeks ago I picked up this walk behind for 75 bucks. I have always wanted one and knew that I would never find a WH model that I could afford. Originally this machine had a Briggs model N engine on it but at some point it was swapped out with a Wisconsin BKN 7 horse. I plan on finding an N to go back on it but will play around with it as is. Long story short it sat in the garage for the past few weeks because I don't have heat in it. Went out today and found that the magneto was putting out great spark. Pulled the tank, carb. and settlement bowl and they were all clean. The oil bath air cleaner had water in it so cleaned it up and put clean oil in. It fired up and runs perfect on the third pull. The machine came with a snow blade so I will try to make a plow that will work on it. I did find out that it is a very early 1948.

Here is what I did on my Briggs Vanguard 18. The pipe has nothing in it. It had a high pitch piercing sound. I installed this, got rid of the piercing sound. It's still not quite but it sounds good. The first washer has a 1" hole the other two are 3/4".

As far a bracing goes, I would rather brace the pipe to the engine than the tractor frame. You have a vibrating engine working against the rigid frame. I think it will set things up for premature wear/ breakage

I’m sorry guys I know it’s not RED but here’s the before and after of the work I did on my 67 John Deere round fender

@ebinmaine, To be honest nothing has changed. Still have the pepper pot style on the tractor. Loud as hell. I got a different muffler via Aldon and Lane Ranger from the big show. Too lazy to get my butt in gear to try installing it. I basically wrench on my 50 year old steed only when I have to in order to keep something running. I guess I really haven't been infected yet.

Another step almost completed for assembly.

The way I look at it is this, you CAN buy a comparable machine as a Wheel Horse today. It would probably cost in the 20K range... and that would likely equate to the 4K range for my C-175 Hydro in 1980

There may have been a third trip that we don't know about. A Clandestine Kennell Caper!

Today’s pictures on last day of the 2019 Florida Flywheelers Show and Swap Meet! Bought an anvil ring in memory of my dad Clifton Ralph, the person who started the Wheel Horse big! Also bringing a 701 and 702 back to Indiana with a stop at Clay Brooks in Ringgild, Georgia!

I have a Charger 9 that originally used a Tecumseh motor. I swapped in a Kohler M10 for the Tecumseh (to avoid the trouble of rebuilding it). It was easy and I am pleased with the conversion .

I've been officiating at The Northern Classic Trial today. The term classic does not refer to the vehicles, but the rules under which it is run. You can enter with any car or motor cycle. No four wheel drives permitted. No photo's of the section on which I was Section Commander. Rather impossible when I was setting the competitors off. But here's a few from the last section. May not look much of a gradient, but believe me it was. Also wet and muddy.

Fishing! Ripped the short chute right off the single cable turn in this wet sloppy mess we got today. Already fixed it a dozen times so swapped it out with the tall chute off the backup 520. Fifty mph winds I wasn't about to sit in a tractor without a cab!

Ok thanks. I have the wheel and shaft on the bench. The wheel is in good shape but once the center cap is removed I can see that it is rusted real bad in there so I am just going to leave it be.

My deepest sympathy. RainbowBridge.com Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together.... Author unknown...

Here you go Lee. I'm going to change the horizontal piece so that it's closer to the hood but this gives you an idea of the height. It's about 5-1/2 feet tall.

Maybe something using these two bosses ?

This is a 16 horse with two bolts that go up through the frame into bottom of the engine. Terry, I don't have a brace on the exhaust for my Patriot horse either and that is also an eight. That's a smaller exhaust system in total with smaller pipes and a lighter Muffler.

Wally world has 'em for $11.77 too. I'm looking for a much more quiet type though. "Pepper pot" mufflers are more of a spark arrestor than a quieting device.

With that many Horses and the beautiful restorations you have done (even the green and yellow ones) you should consider becoming a supporter of this great forum. Helps keep the lights on here and picture posting a breeze . https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/store/ https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/44351-what-does-the-red-supporter-status-mean/?tab=comments#comment-549205

Super cool John...and a great write up! Keep em coming

8 pinion has a pipe plug in the lower fill hole by the hitch 10 pinion has a pipe coupling and then a pipe plug.

And we’ll start the bidding at 20 grand. Can I see 20? Hamanahamanahhamanah 21! 24! There’s gonna be a Wallfish Collection Series at the Barret Jackson Classics of 2020

It's definitely getting "a little carried away" at this point and this is by far the most detail on anything I've done. Kind of pushing the limits on what can be done with this wood on such a small scale. Maybe a metal one would be something cool too. Aluminum is fairly easy and quick to shape so maybe a @buckrancher stainless RJ replica outta polished aluminum?

such meticulous work, all I can say is WOW!!

to the Wes. Is this what you are looking for?

These machines are so tough that you can find a nice one for a fraction of the cost of new. Pretty soon you will run out of customers because they keep what they have If you adjust what those machines cost new to today's dollars, they are not competitive with a zero turn . In a way, that makes it better for the dedicated tinkerers like us

Just checking because after posting a bunch of broken toothpicks it seemed like it was the same thing I laugh at like somebody posting on twitter they are now going to lunch, here's a pic of my hamburger, here's my car in McDonald's parking lot while we're at lunch. Didn't want to over do it and glad you guys are interested. Doing the pics actually seems to help as I see things from a different perspective in them. Not sure why since I'm actually looking at the phone while taking the pic but always seem to see things I don't initially notice. Next tweet. Here's the first tire. A rear one and still not sure about the size although it does come up to just under the hood like a real one does. Maybe look right with fenders?

Front axle with retaining nut preped. It will end up thinner than pictured here but really want the hood on and the tires made to size it. It will swivel when done. And the dreaded tire assembly is preped.Making the tires is tedious and time consuming. Not one of the favorite things to do.

You had to ask.

My guess Dick. John's making 100 of them to give away at the SHOW.

My first . A 1974 C-120 Hydro with a HH 120 Tecumseh. And it still starts and runs perfect with no smoke.

Put a smaller Nelson on mine (don't have the exact #) which came-off another tractor.... has been a great improvement. Note: I put a homemade cover over it so no one gets burned, also works great.