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About 5:30 last night my father in law called, my jokingly nature was quickly distinguished when I learned that my mother in law had been hit by a truck checking the mail. I made the 6 or 7 mile trek to their house in about 4 minutes, to find her in the ambulance and police taking statements. A vehicle was stopped in the road to turn left into a private drive directly across from their driveway so she proceeded to open the mailbox. A too fast to stop truck decided it safe to pass the Tahoe on the right, clipping her. I was so relieved to see her in that van moving her legs and able to focus and speak. Those are things we brag about when babies start growing. We shouldn’t have to be excited when the rest of our family is able to perform those functions because someone wasn’t paying attention, or driving too fast. She’s got 6 broken ribs and a punctured right lung with some air in her chest cavity, but expecting 6-8 weeks of intense pain and a full recovery. Call your parents, or kids or siblings. Remind them that you love ‘em. I’m glad to still have that ability today.

My opinion is your "wood lot" should be as diversified as your 401k, so as if something were to attack only a single species that you have more of then you won't lose your soil or minerals to loss of such, and pretty much what Craig said above, it should benefit both the flora and fauna.

replace the cardboard cutout to fit tighter and punch a smaller hole, or stop driving it upside down

I found a new gas cap for my Ranger at Ace Hardware

Hello all, Saw this today while on a service call... wonder how well it works and the reliabilty factor... Take one late 80s GMC Jimmy, 1 Fisher head gear setup, 2 kohlers, 2 JD snow blowers and a welder... Wallah 1 snow eating contraption Tony

Very very true. No there is not a contingency plan for File Mod or any other position here at RS. I'm pretty sure if I get whacked by a bus while crossing a busy street that you guys wont notice a thing

Any ideas about stopping fuel from leaking out of the vent hole on a LR gas cap? It appears to be stock with the cardboard piece in tacked. It spurts gas out when over half full and quite a bit when the tank is full. I looked around for a new cap but couldn't one to fit locally. It's about 1 1/2" ID. Not that big of a deal but a little annoying. Versus the ex that was a very bad deal and very annoying so I can live with a leaky gas cap if need be.

Do you check trans fluid level with dipstick screwed in or set in on shoulder of blo?ck

I've had one in the works for a while and started on it over 2 years ago but just haven't had the time to touch it since. But, ya never know what I'm gonna show up with. I'd like to get the backhoe fixed up and bring that back there too. People like to see that thing and get ideas.

You musta' hit the lotto.. Seriously, when my parents house was built in 1947 they hit a spring. Sump hole holds 30 gal. and pumps it out every 8 min. No idea how many pumps and or switches we've replaced over the years. We have always used the pedestal type. We now have 2 pumps in at once with check valves and one float set slightly higher and a buzzer in the kitchen if the first one doesn't work. Also have 3 spares in waiting. Dad passed 25 years ago in April. Mother will be 99 in June. When the buzzer goes off my brother and I get the call. But at 70 now I'm just glad I'm still able to help...

Saw a K series Kohler on Facebook marketplace listing in Monticello, KY (southern KY, near TN). Seller listed it as a K121, which of course I had never heard of, so I questioned him about it via the messaging system. * If you want to see it for yourself, PM me and I send you the link, if you can't find it. Seller said his son claims it was built one year for concrete finishing machines, electric start only. Another source I found said it was made for the G. H. Tennant Company only. Has dual exhaust ports and is equipped with a little electric starter. Seller believes it to be 6 hp, and says doesn't have a bottom pan and has back plate like Briggs or Tecumseh. Also has original gas tank, breather, and it runs. I'm still researching but I did find a couple of things about this motor, although official Kohler info seem to be non-existent. I know after searching here at Red Square, @hcminis messed with one of the motors a few years back, and I urge him to jump into this discussion. Also anyone else who might have even the smallest bit of info, please add your two cents worth. Seems to be as rare as hens teeth or rocking horse turds. https://gardentractortalk.com/forums/topic/21085-k-121-kohler/

Here is the pic of my new tractor....still waiting for delivery Can't wait to get the serial numbers and all the info I need to completely ID this machine and find the parts I may need....and also to get input from all of you. Hope this worked. Looking forward to gaining knowledge of this beast!!! Jim

Ok, I just donated. Does that make me a supporter? Better to be a Red Tractor supporter than an athletic supporter...

You may want to consider becoming a Supporter of the site. One great benefit is you can post an unlimited number of photos as a supporter. We want to see lots of

Kohler K121S spec # 2439B and #2468B mtg for G.H. Tennant company I have a parts diagram and list in my kohler parts manual

You are our big toe and it's hard to stand up with out it! Keep up the good work !!!

Had a friend of mine looked into thinning a hundred acres of hardwoods. He had an expert come in and look it over. (now this was 30 years ago) I could not believe he even wanted to cut a single tree. Hunting was good and the place was beautiful. The person looked it over and said thinning will only make it better. They only cut trees with larger than 9 inch trunks at eye level. They we selective and chose the trees with the most abundance in species. That allowed the smaller ones to take off and grow. If you go there now its beautiful and there could be another thinning. Worked out nice. That beech wood just might pay off a couple times and the forest will be most healthy?? Curious to hear what the Range says.

I am out of seals and O rings for the Hy 2 and 3 Hein-Werner pumps Steve and Jason. But Lowell S. sells them (wheelhorseman100) see in the Vendors section on Red Square and on Ebay. He sells the gasket for the fluid canister, the O rings for the hydraulic piston/cylinder, springs and the 1/2 inch seal for the shaft the drive pulley rides on. Lowell's hydraulic parts link: https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/hydraulics.html Not a very difficult task to upgrade the replacement parts on the Hein-Werner pumps if you take your time and have a good work surface to do it on.

Look for more pics on this little tractor soon. I think I will start a new thread at this point, as this one is getting pretty long. I plan to fully document the restoration of this one. I will be hanging around here for the foreseeable future, as we now own one of the tractors I have coveted since my first experience with old iron. I will be glad to contribute to anyone that needs help!

Follow values on chart below. Looks like sweeeeeet success. I am real happy for you.

Tow valve open?

I just put a lot of hours in this blade. I removed all the pieces , sand blasted, then applied epoxy primer and paint. Then I bought some round stock and replaced the extremely worn out pins. It was worth all the work. It’s good for another 60 yrs now.

#1 cause of house fires in America so the insurance companies say. I burn mine fairly hot so not usually a problem. Burning seasoned wood will help but any wood will still accumulate creosote. Especially with well insulated structures and low fires. There was a old coot down the road who used call the RFD once or twice a winter saying he had a chimney fire. So we'd run out ther to find no fire. "Well as long as your out here might as well clean if for me" he'd say! We did but he always had beer and sammies for us! Got to be somewhat of a tradition 'till he passed. Ahh the good old days! I still build 3 or 4 chimneys a year for folks but it's all class A done right. Back in the old days I'd do 15 to 20 but again insurance bs put an end to that line of work for me. They don't like my price too bad. I tell them I got a tractor habit to support! Most times I will do class A right to the stove that's why it gets pricey but it is the best way. No chimney connectors as that where things get dicey. Masonry units are a thing of the past and will never hold up to a decent fire. I seldom touch them but if I do I offer a free first year cleaning built into the cost. We won't clean the connector, just rip them out and replace with all new. I got a warehouse full of smoke pipe. Yours would be an easy one Ed ...short and sweet!

First let me ask everyone's indulgence about this topic. I am not announcing nor expecting anything to happen to anyone,far from that.Nor am I diminishing anyone else's importance or effectiveness. However it is good practice to have a contingency plan for something which is vital and important to anyone or any organization. I don't have to tell anyone how important this site is to all of us who care about these tractors. Specially appreciative are undoubtedly many of the new members we have, and those are what alerted me to this matter. Specifically were those that join and it is evident that their main reason is that at the time they have a problem with a Wheel horse. Although many jump in immediately with help, it is our beloved file moderator that stands out all the time. He is always lightning quick and precise. His ability to always be there at the right time , the beautifully organized manual section which has really become an encyclopedia , and his ability to immediately see something that needs to be placed in that section is nothing short of amazing.Hence my question, whether there is a contingency plan for the possibility that he may not be able to always do it. It is a crucial part of this forum, and although it will undoubtedly continue to exist, i feel that without the kind of attention it gets now it could quickly suffer from it. Again not diminishing anyone else's capabilities but those shoes may not be easy to fill.

This is a great site!! Very knowledgeable folks

Yep, you posted while I was responding. Get the 103 990 switch and you will probably be getting some seat time soon!

More new parts

Fought this same problem this morning on my 2500 Anniversary Edition, changed the fluid this spring and installed a new boot but it still got about a qt. and half of water out after thawing it out. I put Valvoline 50 wt. in it and did my snow plowing and put in back in the warm shop and drained it again, milky looking oil came out. Then I read in one of the post's to jack up the front, went right out and jacked it up and got the rest of the oil out. Really good tip, thanks for that.

You got snow, all we got on the Cape was about 2.6 inches of rain. My C145 and D 160 were happy to stay in the garage out of the rain.

Just don't understand the mystery on AG (Agricuttural) tires which I see all the time. AG tires were designed to be used in the dirt to plow, cultivation or pull dirt attachments, they are poor in snow and will tear the hell out of your lawn especially in the spring when things are sloppy and even a new driveway in the heat of summer. There is no substitute for 2 link chains on normal tires for ice or freezing snow.... this has been true since the dawn of the automotive age..... back in the 50's prior to snow and studded tires you stopped your vehicle when it snowed or in icy conditions and installed banded chains to get moving again, just like they do today on all the tractor trailers. My father could do this is less then 15 mins he then would get back in the straight eight Buick blow up his chest and proclaim "let it snow all I wants nothing is going to stop this baby now" and off we would go with the straight eight roaring like a lion!

In my neck of the 'woods" the logger is responsible for making/maintaining his route of egress/ingress then returning it to how or close to how it was before logging, of course it's all calculated within the amount you may receive for selling your timber, but in the long term for the logger it is the cost of doing business not really on you the land/timber owner...again just personal experience with this myself years ago.

That is not at all off-topic and is, in fact, exactly the kind of input that I was looking for. Thank you for taking the time to write down your thoughts. I have a great appreciation and understanding of all of the uses that you have for varying types of pine trees. I don't have any of those here because we have habits of using other materials for those other things. IF I leave any in my Forest at all it's going to be for wildlife habitat and ecological balance reasons.

So sorry to hear of this, but glad it was not worse. Sounds like this was inches from a fatal accident. Prayers and best wishes for a complete recovery.

We had a conservation agent tour our property about 20 years ago for the purposes of doing some light logging. His first question to us was whether our goal was to benefit wildlife or the forest or both. We told him both and eventually did some strategic logging of the property. Since then the number of dead standing trees has been greatly reduced. I’m sure there will be others along that will have better input then I did but I thought I would throw in my two cents.

I'm with Cas on this, also thinking this is where the start button was mounted?? Looks like a PO job. The key switch would just grounded the magneto to kill. This switch would have been mounted on the center portion of the tank/hood stand. There might be a hole there for said push button starter as well. A plate to relocate these switches would have been part of a HY-2 option as otherwise they would be inaccessible behind the pump. . That relocation bracket was missing on a 753 of mine with an HY-2 so a PO relocated it to the left side tank stand. .

This might help . Found it using the search box.

That's what happened to my 654. Bought it late last year, no time to work on it and no place to get it warm (except the family room....... tempting). Pulled the drain plug out and gently warmed it with a propane torch to get things flowing out. Sorta pale chocolate milk coloured. Didn't want to take a chance the case would crack.

No problem! Kohler static_timing.pdf

Your 857 has a manual transmission and there is no tow valve to open. This is not too unusual this time of year. If your tractor has spent any of it's life outdoors there is a good possibility that some water has gotten into the transmission an has frozen. If you can cover it with a few old blankets and put a heater under it to warm it up the slurry of water/oil will melt and can be drained out. Be sure to jack up the front end to get it drained completely, the plug is at the rear of the transmission and requires an allen wrench. It will take three pints of gear oil (80-90) to fill the transmission to the proper level. The rubber boot on the shift lever is probably bad and should be replaced.

Check to see if the axles are turning in the hubs. Could be bad keys..

Definitely wouldn't appreciate seeing it stuck in my rear view mirror, pushing it's way through bumper to bumper I-84 Hartford traffic.

A lot of long hours .. Thank you for the response an my best to your 99 y/o mom , that's awesome !

Exact same job my cousin had done at his house 2 years ago. Ended up with 4 pits/pumps. Cost 16 grand. But, so far so good. He actually tied in to the township waste lines (illegal) he did not want to keep pumping all the water onto his yard or run lines to the street. And those pumos run a dam lot everyday. Glenn

@ebinmaine I was thinking the same thing at first. Bet it wouldn’t be had to make something similar from an old Snapper frame if one felt so inclined haha I of course had to google it, came across these.

Without chains, the D's weight fights against itself easily. This thing weighs around 1,100lbs - it needs the traction to match its weight. All I run on mine is the 50lb 12" cast iron weights and chains - pushes way more than the C-160 with loaded tires, weights and chains could ever push - plus, it has a much larger and heavier blade. I prefer somewhat that it spins itself out versus damaging the rear axle, pump coupling or other parts. Give them enough traction - you will break something eventually. Parts start acting like a fuse when you overload the capability - if you have to weight one down that far you really should be using a larger machine in the first place. Yes, these things are tough - but they aren't a bulldozer, either, treat it accordingly. Sarge

I should have titled it d 200 frustration instead of disappointment. I put about 50 pounds of washer fluid in each tire, but that’s not enough weight. Not disappointed in it at all, just disappointed that I didn’t get the seat time I was hoping for. I have chains and rims for the 26-12-12 tires, just not the tall skinny ones. In my mind I was thinking those ag tires would just dig in and push. I was way off. That is the fun part, playing with different set ups to see what works and what doesn’t. Time to track down some 26 inch turfs

So I recently took this tractor to Tecumseh Trails in Ohio to meet up with a few other guys who also ride all terrain lawn tractors. I made a video about the trip. Enjoy!