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Hello. One year ago I came across this abused but cheap Gutbrod 2500..... but immediately saw the potential for a vonversion to a D250. Much time and money has gone in to it, and I`m still not done. But I`l get there All the eigth bolts that holds the diff together was broken , but like a miracle the brass planetery gear was in one piece and no broke gears....some ugly wear, problaby from little and gunky oil, but it works. The ignition distributor was missing. Bought one from france....mounted it and it fired up. But after running it for a while, it was oil in the water and water in the oil Off with the cylinder head. It was bent like a banana, and previous owner had used the gasket over again Had the head milled down 0,4mm Back together with new gasket. Running fine, but now the oil was raising and smelled gas......gaspump was shot too. Engine was running nice, but there was something strange. The rpm got to high (Tractor was yet to be driven). Dismantled the gouvernor.....or whats left of it. Also the steering was pretty bad... First drive this summer with new rear wheels. Stripping some old paint to get ready for new I`m keeping the Gutbrod dash-style with the turnsignal and hazzard switch. Also gonna keep the turnsignal, cause I find them a bit cool. This is how it looks today. Painted hood and new tires in the front. Rear fenders where a mess. Built them up again so I could make a plug, to make a mold so I can cast a new one in fiberglas. this is how far I got, present time. I`ll have to rebuild the front Pto from a 6 splined to a axle with a keyway?? Cause I`m missing the the pulley mounted to the 6splined axle. Also the yokes in front I`m missing. found out that these are mouch easier to get with a standard 25mm bore and a keyway. If anyone know or can measure the outer diameter of the pulley mounted on the Pto axle I`ll appreciate that!!! I`m in the forum from time to time reading and watching all the nice tractors you have, and all the good work you are doing to them. My Suburban in weekly use. Here operated by my daugther. Love this little tractor Hope you enjoyed this reading. Best regards Christer

Today was a perfect day for a tractor outing, mild temperatures and nice sunny skies..... Unfortunately this year's turnout was down from prior years. I took my 418-C for a little Kruisin in the sunshine. I enjoyed some time and conversation with member @turnnleft and his grandson. They always have a great display and my is the metal-flaked Suburban 400. The rest of his herd is outstanding too including his grandson's peddle RJ. This Cushman Auto Glide was one of many things that caught my eye. Wish they would have taken this early bike off the trailer so I could get a good shot of it. I know we have some chain saw collectors here, this is for you. here are some other garden tractors and other interesting stuff, enjoy.

Ok Red Square supporters. If your name is in RED (or BLUE if you are an admin ), you are eligible for this “contest”. I have had numerous members on here give me parts, advice, friendship and memories to last me a lifetime. I believe in giving back. I had made myself a cup and a couple had seen it in a picture and wanted one. So I made some. This one here was an experiment to see if I could duplicate “patina”. I think it came out ok. It’s a 20oz stainless Ozark Trail cup. These are handmade so the clear coat is not always smooth as glass but they come out nice. So here is the giveaway. The “Patina Cup”. Post in here and each supporter will be given a number in order of posting and I will compile a list and try to keep it updated daily. I will use a number generator and pick the winner. If you are not in the USA, you will be responsible for shipping. Will be picking a number Sunday afternoon, October 21. Thank you Red Square for letting me hangout and make this place a part of my life. 👊 LET’S TAKE IT UP A NOTCH 👊 I have this 40oz jug I bought but I didn’t notice it had two small dents on the bottom till I got home. Oh well...... let’s add it to the game. First number picked will have a choice of the cup or the jug. Will draw a second number for whatever is left. ***DO NOT PUT THESE IN THE DISHWASHER OR BLEACH THEM***

If need be I’ll pay to send it .....count me in too! COOL CUP RICHIE. Thanks

Oh crud! I just realized my name is not in red

Well, at 11:34 I just took pics of what my engine looks like with a patina look. What do you think guys? Much better I think!!

I think they do such a good job around here keeping this place straight that they should automatically be in it.

Question of the day...are all BLUE GUYS supporters???

My 855 and my 312-8!

Only site I use - others can not compare...NEVER any garbage thanks to the members and the Mods that keep it that way...

Well besides picking a up B80 recently, I also had another friend give me a 1962 Cub Cadet Original project. So far it is coming along nicely, even had it started up. Some "Before and After" pictures. Still have a ways to go yet.

Sorry, Dino. Riding with the wife right now-better not comment😂🤣😂!

hey Dells...when you say awesome cups..........??

I’m with @ACman. I’d be willing to throw some cash in the shipping pot if one of our “other side of the pond” family wins the drawing!

Love one of those but i'm in the UK

Please add my name to the list Rich. Odds are much higher here than my mega millions ticket

The only draw back is you tend to buy too many tractors. The only draw back to that is storage space

It's not only about Red tractors or wheel horse's that makes this one of the best site's. It's the People always helping and going out of there way to make sure we get it fixed right. I belong to many sites ,dodge,jeepkj and there's none like Redsqure. I've said it many times . there's no better site in the world. I will be a supporting member as long as I live.

I can't imagine NOT paying my supporter dues to this site...with all the great people and wonderful knowledge we share here...I went a few months in the black due to budget constraints, I was happier than a kid in a candy store when I could finally be back among the red again

Geez! Let's just say that we have a good group of folks here!! I'll even say our Marines are kinda good. 😂 @Tankman 😋 I had a great interaction with a couple fellers around here. Both are good folks! BTW, Go Ordnance! 😀

Cool deal Rich...please add my name to this list.

I'm addicted to the site as well as my tractors keep up the good work yall we can do this together !!!

@ZXT it it sounds like you’ve got your work cut out for you!

My favorite model. Good to see another get refreshed.

Me too!

I would up the ante on the lovely parting gifts. Like a case of Rice A Roni and the home version of the Hollywood Squares

Amen!

Jeepers Cats the way you guys are jumpin on the band wagon I'm gonna get a bunch and offer them as door prizes at my plow day next year...maybe that will get some of you turkeys out yer recliners and in the field!

The weather person is forecasting frost soon so.. time to harvest. Not sure what I’m going to do with this lot, early Christmas presents perhaps. Thelma Sanders Blue banana Queensland blue Victor Thelma Sanders is a favourite of ours the others are new this year, time to find out if they taste any good !!

Figured I'd move out of the introduction forum and start a thread documenting what I'm doing and have done to my GT-14 to hopefully bring it back to life. I hope this is the correct section and that this sort of post is allowed. If it isn't, I apologize. I ordered a new carburetor for it due to the fact that the original has close to 1/4 inch of side-to-side play in it. $14 on ebay. Can't beat that. Confirmed by a few of the pictures I posted in my introduction, the right side wheel/axle was sticking too far out. I glanced at it in the rain and automatically thought that the C clip holding the axle in had come off, and that the axle was slid out. I was wrong, the hub is simply loose on the axle and is slid out about as far as it can go! The good news of not having to pull the trans apart was soon overshadowed by discovering that the hydro pump is stuck. I cannot turn the pulley on it. I'm not sure how it would've taken on water, but maybe it did. I suppose it's possible that it's simply burnt up. I guess I'll have to pull it off and see what I find. I need to buy a pair of tubes for the front tires. One leaks from the sidewall where it's sat flat, and the other is off of the rim and I assume it'll leak the same way. The rears already have tubes and appear to hold air. I'd put new tires on the front of it, except for the fact that it still has the original wheel horse tires all the way around, and I think that's neat. Our local antique tractor and engine club that I'm a part of is putting on a show this weekend and I was hoping to have it running and take it to that. With the hydro pump pulling this stunt, I doubt that'll happen. More updates and pictures to follow as I progress.

While it's not Wheel Horse branded, I think these gears might have originality been red... I'm the most recent owner of a set of wagon gears that I couldn't pass up. Plan to restore them and use them as the base for a portable hunting shed. Just picked them up tonight and still trying to identify them. I think I can see some ID numbers cast into the integral wheel hubs and possibly even an IH surrounded by a large "C," meaning they may be International Harvester gears. 95% of the fasteners are square headed bolts and nuts, and the bracket for the tongue is 4" wide, leading me to believe it was built prior to WWII and used with a wooden tongue as a horse drawn wagon. I'm reasonably sure I read somewhere that the time period for farm implements to change over to hex headed fasteners was during the 1930s. I've just got two preliminary photos taken where she sat when I bought her. More research to follow and more photos, too. Cheers! Dave More on the Farm Truck Wagon..... It is definately an International Harvester Corporation set of gears. Confirmed that this morning in good light and the aid of a wire brush. The green algae growing on it had me fooled. Thought it might be of John Deere heritage. One I got of the wire brush I found blue paint on the hubs, red paint on the wheels and the frame surely was painted IH red at some point. It needs tires and a good sandblasting before paint, but it should be worth the time to fix 'er up. It will be a good winter project for my new shop. Cheers, again! Dave

I worked about a week winterizing mine. Cleaned and waxed the hull, new bilge pump, desalted the motors, drained and refilled the lower units, painted the props, drained the fuel tanks, ran a concentration of fuel and sta-bil through the motors, then pulled the plugs and fogged the cylinders. Just a caution for all boaters. I removed both fuel tanks for cleaning. The large tank is aluminum and it cleaned up OK. The small tank is a 6 gallon steel painted tank. When I turned it over to dump out all the old fuel, I noticed the paint on the bottom was blistered , so I decided to paint the tank. When I scraped the blisters off, I could see holes in the tank. The tank had rusted through under the paint. If the tank had leaked the 6 gallon of fuel into the bilge and tripped the bilge pump float switch who knows what could have happened. That steel tank has been replaced with a plastic tank. She is resting in winter storage. Also put a couple horses away for the winter and brought the snow movers home.

It should not be that much to ship to Europe...I would chip in also. Regular post is (guessing) about $??? not that much. You are not going to win anyway Chris.

Looks repainted? Just sold one of my sk486's for $450 and a bottle of tequila. Bought it for $200, put $250 into it. Swapped the deck for a 4' plow. It went to a family member. Still gotta get the decals

The deck adds value to the machine.How much is subject to market,condition and demand.If you ever plan to sell the tractor, the deck is something most would like to have on one when they buy it.JMHO,Luck,JAinVA

The second ones an IH, needs some grill work 😂

Well I’ll let y’all know if I win the bid! If I really NEEDED this for something, I’d have offered more than I did.

Wondering when the dino would make it in here. You got it!

Looks like a late 60’s square hood with another Briggs?

Very nice Dells...I’ll be watching this thread from here on out . Been just kinda checking in lately . Still here and still family! You made the right choice with the engine tins and I agree with painting the other parts black. Love your belt guard looks more original than the other repop. One tool everyone should have if drilling holes in sheet metal is a Unibit . https://www.homedepot.com/p/Steel-Core-Titanium-Step-Drill-Bit-Set-5-Piece-with-Storage-Case-33148/302972677?cm_mmc=Shopping|G|Base|D25T|25-7_POWER+TOOL+ACCESSORIES|NA|PLA|71700000034127227|58700003933021549|92700031755124913&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI29rzs-iS3gIVjrbACh0UYw5REAQYFCABEgI7WPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CPOHqf7okt4CFQhIAQodvTgHYQ makes life easier.

Some interesting ride ons there. Thanks for posting.

Hi Dave, and thank you. The Gutbrod where made in Germany,and mainly a dieseltractor. but they made this one with gas. I`ve only seen them for sale in Germany, Denmark, sweden. I know mine came from sweden. there are gutbrods in Norway but that is different models. And of course the Wheel horse D250 , that is a Gutbrod-made tractor, with differnt color-scheme and not the turnsignal/hazzardsignal. Regards Christer

It also is the only model to use lever choke and throttle controls on the dash tower. It should have a full hood like a 604/654/704 but use the older 61-62 front axle. The front of the frame should be flat, not bumped out like the rest of the 63 models that used the new axle. It also had long cast iron foot rests instead of the stirrup style.

I think the 603 is the only model that had the half moon shaped steering wheel.

So a little update on Norman... we took our first trip last week to Winchester, IN for the 47th annual Winchester 400. The entire trip was uneventful, with the camper loaded for a Wednesday-Monday stay. The races were over Sunday night, so we sat around the campfire and watched the people take off. I didn’t feel like rushing to get out of there with the crowd, so we opted to leave Monday morning to head hom. Not too far from Winchester in Portland, there is a campground called Fox Lake, I believe. We call ahead and see if we can dump our tanks for the ride home, if possible. The fee has tripled since the last time we drove through, sign of the times I suppose. The dump station is just off the gravel drive, and we successfully sank Norman! I guess their pond was 16”+ above average and the ground was soft. We ended up getting tugged out by one of the two people in the campground as they were officially closed for the season. The rest of the drive was a peach, and now it’s time to get him ready for winter storage. We’ve finally been getting the barns cleaned out of my in-law’s stuff, so there will soon be room in the barn for the camper and Norman together. Until then, he’s soaking up some harvest time sky.

Update: I pulled the drain plug and there were no metal shavings or parts in the oil - but a slight trace of possible water. The engine seems to be loosening up some, I was able to turn it more and I can see the piston moving now. I pour a mixture of transmission fluid and acetone in to loosen it up some more. On a side note, I couldn't live with the rear tires on backwards anymore, just in case someone excuse me of doing it. So I switch the tires around so they're now pointing in the right direction.

Well Betsy Ross sewed the stars on the first American flag and I’m sure there is a famous horse out there somewhere with the name “Betsy”...... or you could go with Monique 😁

You must have lived in Chicago during the RJ Daley days. He encouraged his supporters to "vote early...and often!"

He looks ready for a Mustang!!