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There are times when I need to lift or move something I can't manhandle alone.So with a little scrap iron and a cheap HF winch this is my solution.

Hi all! Just signed on to the forum for the first time, but I've been a fan for many years - shamelessly using your posts as valuable resources when fixing and maintaining the family WH. The site and your posts are truly an asset to anyone using and caring for these wonderful tractors. I've been running (and maintaining) a C-195 tractor since dad bought it new in 1983. It's a great old tractor and it is still faithfully cutting grass to this day. But, like most things of that era, it needs its share of TLC to keep it going. Mind you I'm not shy of a considerable amount of wrenching on most things mechanical, but it seems like I've got more than my share of these sorts of challenges wrangling for my time these days. Not to mention, I've still got grass to cut. I plan to list the tractor here on the site and on my local internet swap site, but what's one of these worth? The (original) motor smokes just a little at startup, but the tractor runs great and looks almost that good too. If any of you familiar with these have advice on selling, I would certainly appreciate your insight. Here's what I have: Wheel Horse 1982/83 C-195 Tractor w/Hydrostatic Transmission (2810 Hrs) Wheel Horse 3-point hitch and rear PTO installed Wheel Horse 60" Mower Deck Wheel Horse 50" Tiller Attachment PeCo ProTwin "14" Gas Powered Bagger/Vacuum Front Wheel Weights help to counter balance the bagger when full All Owners Manuals and a couple Glossy Color Brochures even All in good working order I know you folks like to see a few photos from new members, so here's a couple quick shots. Thanks for any insight you may have on this one. jc

I love these pictures! Me and my one and only back in '97. C-85

Here is a picture of my Son Bryan and I right before his wedding 2 weeks ago. Being in a suit is the worst ever!!!!! When Carhartt makes suits, I might where one more often! Randy

No, but these will/could cause early failure. 1. leaking axle seals resulting in low oil in the unidrive. 2. water in the unidrive due to a leaking shifter boot 3. grinding gears when engaging unidrive caused by drive belt not stopping when clutch is disengaged. 4. impact shock ….from stump pulling with a slack chain or hitting immovable objects with a plow or dozer blade My and to the

Me and the misses dancing for our Family. I made my regalia. Lakota from Eagle Butte, S.D.

So first let me tell you guys that both me and my wife are watchful of our money. The only debt we have is real estate at $700 a month with maybe 6 years to go. We are trying to keep running an old 2005 Pontiac that is getting long in the tooth until she retires. You all know how real estate debt goes. The payments nearing the end of the loan are mostly principal,and our principal payment is below 175.00. At 3,75% We could pay that off tomorrow if we wished and effectively see cash flow increase by $700.00 a month. The church magazine is advertising that they have auto loans for 2.5% and that got me to thinking. Pay off the house and use the cash flow for a new car.. We planned to buy a new good car with our stash and pay cash. I do realize that to get a car at that financing rate of 2.75% that it would have to be new. We also have GM rewards money of $3000.00 built up that can only be redeemed for a new car. Don't be easy on me, because it has to pencil out. Wants vs. needs can make you less happy than you are right now. So I want the same advice that you would give your kids. Discuss. Oh,BTW, my daughter is in her 9th year of college and drives a car from the last century. She has a great start on a 401 Roth and only owes1K on student loans. She gets made fun of by her co-hort at college, but has something to smile about when they complain about their debt. Hard work and frugality never hurt anybody.

Four heads are better than One! The next Mount Rushmore, @giddyap, @Achto, @Coulter Caleb & myself getting out of the rain @ the big show 2018. I think @PeacemakerJack is behind the camera.

Me and my filthy kids, they’ve been running me posts with ‘Barney helping me work on the “chicken coook”

Paying off you mortgage lifts a tremendous burden off your shoulders. As @mmmmmdonuts mentioned you don't want to do that at the hazard of not having a reserve fund. Also, You and your wife should be stashing as much money as you can in 401Ks and IRAs while you are working. The 2.5% auto loan would be very tempting for me. In my opinion the $3,000 GM cash would make a new car depreciation less of a factor, but once the transaction for the car is completed I would get a cash-back card, my Fidelity card gives me 2% on all purchases and no fees. We tend to hold on to a vehicle longer than most so the new car depreciation can be considered negligible. Our 2008 Mountaineer has about 98K on the odometer and we plan to continue driving it another ten years or so. We had over 200K on our most recent trade ins and have bought new vehicles with the exception of my present truck, it was three years old with 13K and I knew the history on it. Buying a used car scares the pants off me! When you see all the flood damaged cars after storms you know some of them will end up on car lots. Used car dealers have earned a bad reputation and I've never heard anyone say different. If you KNOW all of the history on a used vehicle it could be a good buy. A friend who worked for a car rental company told me to never buy one of their used cars. He said they wouldn't do any maintenance on them and just log them as having been serviced regularly. Once they go through a couple auto auctions in a couple of states the rental car history seems to disappear.

recently picking up a 312-8 ,in addition to wanting to recover a lot of areas of neglect, the main thing was the loose noise this rig made, like a rock in a garbage can. lower front hood pin, swing hinge, removed that and replaced with 2 5/16 x1x1/2" bolts with 2 fender washers on each bolt and elastic nuts , result ? silence. next rebuilt the pto lever rod assembly, I was going to replace the steering rod shaft bearing with a two bolt flange bearing , so I was there anyway. that pto set up was a rattling mess , made up some Teflon washers and spacers and that is smooth and silent, no noise. added a soft extension spring to the rattling clevis pin on the pto curved arm to bottom of arm mount pin, silence. I just love bringing this thing back . my old c-85 has been upgraded the same way, on to the next service area, pete

Same here for my two sons Jim. Now working on the four grandsons education. The financial advise I always used and stressed to my sons.....never borrow to purchase anything that is not absolutely essential. Save the money first, and many times, by the time you save enough to purchase the item, you will realize it was not worth the work required to buy it.

One of our members did a great thread on this project a couple years back. @Aldon put enough detail into it that you should have no problem following along.

Me with sawdust in my eye around 1:30am Sunday morning and me on the way to church Sunday morning. Honest it really was sawdust!😂🤣😂

But you are both on my right side...and I already knew Paul and Rick. BTW...this is one of my favorite pictures...all excellent people into the horses.

@Daddy Don I appreciate your offer, if you feel like taking a cruise through Norman Mitsubishi, it’s supposed to be off the market and parked out back... but I put a non-refundable deposit on the truck and we booked our flight/hotel/rental car for next Friday, the 14th. Plan to land in OKC at about 9:30 and head to Norman. Maybe we could meet for lunch and a picture on Saturday? it’ll be the Mrs. and I’s 11th anniversary that day!

Glad to answer your questions Ed.The winch is rated at 3000#,in my mind overated.The current offering from Harbor Freight is 2500# and was on sale recently for $49.00.A similar winch is also sold by Tractor Supply for I think $90.00.This winch was originally radio controlled.I have read about enough accidents with RC winchs that I coverted it to manual control.That wasn't that hard as the RC unit just energizes the appropriate solenoid.Years ago I had no problem backing up anything but as I have grown older I find that my neck doesn't rotate as far anymore so to make it easier not to crash into anything I went with a front mount.I had thought I would have to mount a bigger battery on the back but the tractor's unit seems to work fine.I don't think I'd put this on any of the tractors that don't have gear reduction steering.Hope this helps.If you have any additional questions I will do my best to answer them.Luck.JimAnderson

OK...let me see if I got this straight. Kevin is Pullstart from Florida...Chris is Clueless from Michigan. Nice truck Kevin... .Brrly1, Horsefixer, IndyWH, Stevasaurus, Shorts, Clueless, Pullstart, jackhammer.

Chris... my new Karaoke name! Thanks @stevasaurus for that one!

Lookin’ all slick. I hate suits too. Can’t stand playing dress up. To me its all about comfort. 👍

Glad my info is of help.

@953 nut thanks for the link. I pretty much knew what I had to do just wanted to verify. @Aldon thanks for making a nice thread for us to follow along with. It was a great help.

Good advice...at 78 years of age and having several different houses and many cars , I can say with certainty: Buy the house you can afford and work to pay it off as soon as possible...In the meantime: my wife and I did not buy new cars and trucks..,.we paid cash for whatever the cash would buy...making payments on an object that is losing value hand over fist is for the well-to-do..But,if I were well off, I would be driving new vehicles.. we have always been very frugal...I was blessed with a wife that didn't need the latest fashions etc..all of this allowed me to retire at 57....love it..........

My co pilot lol

Ya’know, that picture with only 3 machines on the back kinda makes it look inferior...

I used to work in the finance industry for a bit and can tell you most likely tell you that they would tell you this. If you can make more money from the returns on investing the money that's what you should do. Always pay off the higher interest rate first. For me personally, since I am fairly conservative I would do the following. 1) Make sure you have an emergency fund. ~3-6 months of your debts/expenses covered in cash readily available in case of an emergency before doing anything else. 2) Assuming you have an emergency fund, I would pay off the house and then get a car payment. Part of the reason is because the interest rate is lower on the car. 3) GM does periodically do 0% financing on new vehicles so you maybe able to get a loan through them for less depending on how soon you need to buy. It usually is a few times a year.

Dude that’s 3 hrs from you, according to the google... quite an offer but I wouldn’t want to make you go that far! Says something about your character, for sure!

Go figure... Best make it a long box

You may have yourself a pretty neat idea right there Randy. I have plenty of wood scraps around already but I'm not sure if I have any Square stock that is smaller than about 2 in. @Racinbob @pullstart I'm thinking I'd like to add some that do not have the vertical portion at the back. Kind of keep with a unique look of the tractor.

I've never really thought about this but I'm thinking like @pullstart that the rear bar isn't needed. I had to pull up a picture of the Commando 800 I restored for my grandson and it doesn't look like there's a rear bar unless I can't see it in the picture. That tractor was original when we got it in the early 80's and still going strong today with no stress issues. Then again, it hasn't had a 'full grown' operator as all of us are in the mid 100's. Having the bar would certainly add strength.

NO! Wheel weights were a dealer option and a lot of us run them for years.If you have any transmission issues they are in no way related to wheel weights.If you look at my avatar on the left there are 80 lbs of wheel weight that were installed back when the machine was shiny and new.The transaxle is still fine.

I don't have any with my W/H so this is going to have to do ....

Not a selfy but it’s me.

All I got

I have a nice C195 that I don't really want to sell, I guess that's key, but I don't think I would take much less then $ 2000.00 for it. Of course I haven't been able to sell it for that price. A C195 with three point hitch and PTO is worth a pretty penny around my parts. A 3 pt tiller is fairly rare around here also. The bagger's around here go for somewhere around $ 350.00 by themselves. When I buy something I want it as cheap as I can get it but when I sell it I want a decent price for it. You say you are going to sell it for the best offer, on here in the classified adds you can't auction something off. So you have to set the price high and then take the closest price to your desired price. If you sell it to someone on here you know it will go to a good home with somebody taking good care of it and babying it. good luck eric j

@Ed Kennell, not to intrude on Jim's thread but 2 winters ago when I did my first attempt at a front blade for the Kioti, I bought the 2500# ATV remote (only) controled winch from Harbor Freight for $50 price dependent on sales/coupons, Jeff.

These drawings will show you what remains the same and what needs to be altered on your wiring.

Asking price less than 7 grand... it’s easily a 13k vehicle in this area. I didn’t see any rust, has had injectors, new heads,, head studs clutch, and batteries all in the last 2 years. Only power adders are an edge tuner, which I will likely use for egt readings more than anything. It might end up at the big show next year, we’ll see!

WOW that is one long drinkawater... front & rear are in different zip codes! Whadda you have to give for it? Coming from that area prolly little to no rust. Who's good at photo shopping .... see how many horses it can hold!

Welcome to RS! I am sure somebody closer to you can help you with pricing, but do ya really want to sell something your Dad bought new? I can tell you that tractor is a great one to have and you won't buy a new one comparable unless you spend about 8 to 10 grand! Either way, good luck! Randy

I just looked at a picture of my 76 and don't see one there either. I should know because I just had that one apart but I'd have to look to make sure. Edit: The parts manual doesn't show a rear bar on the 76 so apparently it isn't needed. My 2005 does have one so I guess it's based on the year and how the sheet metal is attached to the frame.

Now that’s a mugshot. Hopefully your eye is better.

Richie don’t roll no smoke. Heck I don’t even own anything that will smoke a tire. I have burnt up a clutch before though.

here is a picture of the tipping trailer complete

Happy Labor Day 2018 RedSquare!