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You couldn't ask for better weather and the variety of equipment was outstanding. Member @turnnleft was there with his grandson and a lot of outstanding RJs. This poor horse has been abused! Here are a few more photos of the show. Don't know what this is but it was Not For Sale, owner had picked it up a few weeks ago and hoped to find out more information fro people at the show. Here is a Standard Twin walk behind tractor that has been converted to a rider. Very interesting! I have one in my barn and have plans to do something similar with it. Massey was the feature tractor this year. This gentleman had a great Deere toy collection

Picked these 2 up today.

This is a first.

When Mike wrote the book on Wheel Horses he left out a couple of experimental models including the "Bugatti" inspired Type 35.

Dismount tire. Throw chains inside said tire and remount. What's the problem? Oh and hi HHHHOOOOWWWWWAAAAARRRRDDDDD!

I just gotta ask Bob. How did you get those chains inside the tires? I just can't help myself.

In my opinion the cast iron Kohler single cylinder engines are rather bullet proof. If it sounds good and isn't smoking excessively you will get another 1,000 hours out of it with proper maintenance.

I just placed an order. Two pumps for $16.25 +$1.00 shipping and a lifetime warranty from Richard.

THE STACK

I bought this sickle bar a couple weeks ago and figured out the bottom drive pulley was backwards so I tried heating it up and it still wouldn’t come off. And yes I took both of the set screws off. And we put a puller on it and bent the pulley all up. So we found a pulley that is the same thing and put it on the right way and it works good. I just need to get a bigger belt and lube it all up. It’s a 50” too. I can’t wait to use it a lot. Any tips on running it or anything else.

Good afternoon, I just purchased my first WH and am excited to be a part of this community. I am attaching a couple of pics. One from the day I brought it home and another after I removed the mower deck (I know, it has a replacement engine but it runs like a champ). Looking forward to learning a lot from the experienced posters here. Gary

Toro acquired both Wheel Horse and Lawn-Boy, hoping to keep those high-end brands alive. They covered market segments where Toro wasn't as strong; Toro didn't have any garden tractor presence, and Wheel Horse also brought a line of smaller but well-engineered lawn tractors and alternate rear-engine riders to their lineup. Lawn-Boy was kind of its own special segment with two-cycle push mowers and a strong brand loyalty that extended into the commercial sector. (I usually saw more commercial Lawn-Boy mowers than Toro trimmer mowers in commercial service back in the day.) Toro supported the engineering efforts to carry the Wheel Horse line into the 300, 400, and 500 lines plus develop the 5xi, and they were the ones that brought Lawn-Boy into the modern age with the oil-injected/piston-ported "M" series 2-cycle mowers. They were very much trying to grow and build those brands. Unfortunately, economic downturns that favored the rise of cheap commodity equipment, a decline in popularity of gardening on a scale big enough to induce people to need GTs, engine emission regulations, plus the rise of zero-turns across pro and homeowner use, all really turned the market upside-down. Today, SCUTs have eaten into the garden tractor market and cheap commodity lawn "tractors"/riding mowers have gobbled up the homeowner market. Zero-turns dominate the turf care industry. Emissions regulations killed 2-cycle mowers. In the end, Toro's two big acquisitions went from being important assets to a mostly dead market. Toro actually protected the Wheel Horse brand by not applying it to anything that didn't have a genuine Wheel Horse engineering legacy. Unfortunately, there's no way to fit genuine Wheel Horse into Toro's modern lineup. So the brand remains dormant. Lawn-Boy still has name recognition, and just survives as re-branded Toro homeowner mowers. The "M" series deck lives on though, in slightly modified/updated form as one of Toro's (expensive) pro line trimmer mowers. Toro spent money and had plans to cultivate those brands and build themselves into a "family" of reputable names. Economics and outside market forces changed all that.

I have about 200 foot of frontage on a state road, Same problem with trash.........and it really ticks me. Once I was picking up the trash and came upon a case of long neck buds. About half were broke, I washed the rest off, chilled them and enjoyed. My wife said that was the only time I was happy about picking up the trash!

Looks like a K341, count the head bolts looks like 10. As Dick said these motors are bullet proof, you will not be able to do a compression test you need to do a leakdown test as Kohlers have ACR

Count the head bolts. K341 should have 10.

I saw this thing sitting by the metal scrap pile at the county dump today and I could not leave it there. I haven't looked to see if there's any brand names on it, but it's red! Unreal that someone would scrap this thing.

Beautiful October day, taking advantage of the weather. One of these will be on winter duty, guess which one? funny they all have 42” RD decks on them now left to right: 1994 416-H 1995 312-8 1974 C160 Automatic

It's either my grammar or your understanding that's screwed up. But I stand corrected the chain's are on the outside of the tire. You have to be careful what you say here. These guys will have you for dinner. Thanks @Ed Kennell

This is what you want....

Kits for all the K series are the same.

So after posting the topic, I hadn't used the 414-8. Since I am getting ready for snow (while it's warm out for a change) today's task is the plow on the 414-8. When I parked it on Sunday, I shut off the fuel petcock. This morning I went out, opened the petcock and it fired up like it sat for only a minute. I like the idea of the electric fuel pump, but think that I will buy a bunch of one-way valves and put them on all the machines. So the next question is where is the best place to install? Closer to the tank (lowest spot), just before the fuel pump or between pump and carb?

I like it, just like me it doesn't conform to most standard rules and regulations.

Bugahorse. I like it.

The fresh red paint Richie ...I dunno to like it or not...skittles was kinda growing on me!

You know what, I kind of like the way it looks.

I filled my rear tires on my C160 with RV antifreeze and chains . Never spins works great. Chains are a must.

And I also add roller chains wrapped around the front tires for steering control when pushing a blade full of wet heavy snow.

For financial reasons and Cecil's son not being interested it was sold to AMC in 1974. It was really just big business from then on. In 1982 it was sold to Munn Investment Group. Finally in 1986 Toro acquired Wheel Horse. Personally, since the Ponds no longer owned Wheel Horse I feel that Toro was the best move that could have happened. I doubt they would have been around until 2007 or the design completely changed (severely cheapened) if they hadn't. There's a nice blurb about it in a book written by the CEO of Toro.

It's almost like being there! Thanks for sharing

Gees good catch, maybe those chains were made of liquid metal? C-85

From his first post, second line, he mentions a 416-8. I don't know if that is what this one is or not, but with the engine mounted directly to the frame, the battery mounted in the dash tower (which appears to be red at the bottom and black at the top), and round headlights in the hood, my guess is that it is a 300/400 series.

Great ! Thanks for input..highly appreciated ! Sounds that model Kohler engine is one valued by the Wheel horse community, makes me happy ! Thanks again. Kind regards, Henry

That's look like a Ridealong Senior-jr.57

Your bevel (pinion) gear is jumping over the tooth in the fan gear. These can be shimmed & the steering gear maybe moved down (if it has moved up over a period of time) or if it hasn't been serviced (greased) properly the bracket may be worn badly. Also the fan gear could have a chipped tooth (or worn). They can sometimes be beyond repair & need replacement. Only you can make that determination.

I thought I would post a follow-up to my sickle mower experience from this Summer. I put it all back together with a new bushing and the repaired yoke. It cut through some tall grass and weeds pretty well. Most of my cutting was over the edge of a slight drop-off, so I was running it with the chain supporting it. With the chain on there, the cut material didn't flow over the bar very well, so I had to stop regularly to clear it. I think next year if I do it periodically instead of just once at the end of Summer it will work better. After mowing again at low idle to keep they sickle speed down with the original B100 PTO pulley, I decided I needed something different. I found a smaller pulley in my parts stash, and the foot clutch that came on my 854. Installing the foot clutch was easier than I thought it might be. I just had to drill a hole in the foot rest peg for a cotter pin for the pedal lock. While installation went better than I expected, operation wasn't quite what I expected it to be. The smaller pulley did do what I hoped it would. I could easily operate at half throttle, which allowed the hystat to perform much better. Unfortunately the chain I was using to hold up the sickle interfered with where I needed to put my foot to run the clutch. I could make it work, but it was kind of a clumsy setup. So, the final verdict on the sickle mower is it did the work I bought it to do. I'm not totally convinced there isn't a better tool to do the job, but until I find that tool, the sickle will work just fine.

I have been following the roller chain thing for a couple years now.......But this year gentlemen,,,,,,its a new year,,,,,and we are gonna pull the trigger on this chain idea,, Also,,,,,I will be running 50lb weights on both the inside and outside of the rear wheels...as well as double chains...Also gentlemen,,,,,I will running what will be referred to from now on and in the future as ...an ED KENNELL Stack,,,,,sold on the idea,,,,,,,,,thanks ED,,,,, OK,,,,,,,Let it bring it on !!!!!!!

Some new photos of the header installed.

Little more on the muffler today. Made the cutout for the front outlet pipe and a rear brace to the engine. Also fitted the 418 exhaust guard. Still have to make a mounting bracket for it. Going to weld that to the brace that runs the right side under the hood and try to incorporate the coil and solenoid mount so they are up and out of the way.

I would add tire chains to complete the snow removal unit!

When I think of all that energy expelled chopping wood, it reminds me to go clean the spiders out of my garage heater's pilot burner. The little devils love propane!

The natives are chopping wood like crazy. You wood (sp) have to be around a long time to appreciate this sideline. do some search.

I have this type on three of mine, low cost and work well. Link to eBay low pressure fuel pump

Surprise

No one wants one of those old Onan 8-speeds😄 actually if you’re looking to trade that 416 I can do that, not for the C160, but would be willing to trade The 312, 414 and would throw in the 310 plus a sickle bar for that one.... what a deal huh?

After I bought my new Dodge Ram 2500 diesel I thought I would go check out some truck forums to try and learn a thing or three about them. Every site I checked out had some knowledgeable folks & good contributors but man do the other forums suck out there compared to here! Ads, ads and more ads not to mention looooonnnnng running scripts & lousy topic layouts. Most very slow and complicated to navigate and figure out. Terrible to register and login, Not at all like the ease & ad free we have here or our sister site MOM. Maybe I am just used to being here. Keep up the good work Karl!

Only forum I belong to for all the reasons noted above. So much garbage out there it is a pleasure to peruse this site...Great group of folks...

Well said Jim. There are all sorts of worthless sites on the internet. We are blessed with conscientious Moderators who keep us straight and Karl has done a great job of building and maintaining the site for us. All of us benefit from the combined wisdom and humor of this group; wonderful.

Tried to drill the inlet pipe for ports but I had no good drill bits for the job. Out come Mr.Plasma and took care of the job. Pretty? Not really but no one will see the inside anyways. Will it work? I don't know. Took some ideas from different things I have seen on the web. Cut the opening on the side for the pipe to stick out. Cut it to length and used a stainless nut for spacing inside. I'll get this much welded and then finish the front end cap and outlet. Ill put a flat bar support bracket on the back, midway.