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I haven't seen this so someone let me know if its been done before please. I removed lower brake band bolt and fabbed a small plate that swings up or down. Depress brake and swing it down, brake is locked. Swing it up when ready to go.

I usually don't watch Fast and Loud due to Richard's attitude and the foul language, so I missed it. I usually watch Wheeler Dealers, Chasing Classic Cars and a few other automotive shows (and American Pickers). I guess I have to see when this particular Fast & Loud show is on and see if I can spot the tractor.

Just about the only decent program on tv...tv - the amazing wasteland - .....

I bought my b80 and didn't tell my wife and she never knew the difference with all the red ones in my garage. Please don't tell her guys. Because I'll deny it.

I have been finding lots of great people and info since being here and have decided to take the plunge and become a supporter. I dont think for the price you could be a part of such a great forum anywhere else. Its certainly worth it to me. Now is someone going to administer on oath or buy me a coffee or something? Thanks for having me.

Had to wait for paint to dry ! Here it is installed. Have trouble with close ups. I shake a bit. Good for doing points bad for pics!!!

That seat is original.I think I can get that seat back together as the cover just pulled out and the trim needs to be set back. In fact this entire machine is original. I need to run the numbers but it is an 88 or 89' 520 HC. Been sitting inside for at least 5 years as the po passed and his son sold it. Has a very nice 60" deck too. I am sure this one will clean up real nice!

Here are the spindle washers that I made for the top of the spindles which consume the large space between the top of the axle's spindle bore and the clip ring. I had to grind down the washers to thin them out and then polished them a bit with 100grit on a wheel. This I feel protects the steering in two ways. It dramatically limits the amount of debris that can get into through the top and grind away at the axle and spindles and also limits any pounding of the thrust bearing at the bottom. Fully Assembled and tie rods adjusted. Close up of the washer... I also added a couple of rubber hub caps from the normal 6" rims of the 312 but they are new. They didn't have black so I figured that grey was the next best thing because of the rim color. I had to heat the caps up a little and then they stretched on nicely and I was able to pop them down pretty far.

Helping a friend to move at the weekend and found this seat in his garage and thought it would look better on one of my wheelhorse's and its colour coded

Look me up at the Big Show and I`ll buy you that coffee...( might want to make that a soda, it gets pretty warm there the end of June) If you need something to cut it with, we may know someone...

Anybody else see this? Watching the new episode of Fast 'n Loud last night. Richard bought a deserted piece of property that had a bunch of cars 'buried' in the back yard. He got Dennis to buy two of them. To get to the 2nd car they 'moved' a 520-H (? - appeared to be a 60" deck). Of course the WH was considered to be junk. They hooked a chain to Dennis's Jeep an drug it out of the way rather vigorously.

Dear Lord, slim67 will be undergoing delicate spinal surgery tomorrow morning. Please guide the surgeon's hands to be steady and effective to do the task at hand, and not create any further damage We pray against any infection or complications. Calm the heart of his family. Give slim67 your peace so his body can heal under the best conditions. In the name of Jesus, bless slim67 to be healthier after this procedure than before. Lord allow this temporary trial to bring this family closer to you and each other. When he is coming out of surgery, let the side effects be minimal. Work a miracle in this whole situation and bless it from beginning to end. Thank you Lord for your blessing on this family. We praise you as we know we are in good hands- the very hands of God. In Jesus name, we thank you for each day. Amen.

Well, it has taken me awhile to get this posted - old age, illness in family etc. . Don't really have a good progression of pix, but I know that any pix are welcome ( I too, like to look at the various pix )...My son did the heavy liftiing on this swap, and it went really well..I used some of the tips that I had read about here on RS, and appreciated them all.. I just have one or two to add: the steel hydraulic line on the pump needed a little more room so we cut out a little sheet metal where it contacted it.....per bmsgaffer instructions I left the filter loose while filling with oil - it never did run out on the floor and it filled up nicely..no comparison to the eaton 700 - it will now pick the front wheels off the ground at about 3/4 throttle...so, so strong...again, many thanks to richmondred01 ( I bought the unit from and he went the extra mile to get it to me ) and the others who chimed in...if anyone is interested, I made a seat prop out of simple 1/4 in steel rod that works really well..I really like this 516 -- now I need one of Matt's hydro pedal kits and it will be the berries..really good bunch of guys here on the Red Square..keep up the good work...

No wonder my "bushings" haven't gone bad! Of course last winter, and this one so far, the snowthrower has been doing anchor duty to keep the concrete floor from moving.

The 417-8 is an excellent tractor. I bought one last summer, and it is one of my favorites. I put a snow blower on it, and look forward to using it if we ever get a decent snow. The 417 was made in 1985 and 86. Most of the 86s had an electric lift, which is useful for a plow blade or snowblower. The 86s had a louvered hood, and the 85s did not. The Kohler 17 twins were the Series II, with better oil circulation. It's a good smooth running engine. The price depends on hours on it, and how well it was maintained. I paid $600 for mine with 490 hours on it, but had to put a lot of work and paint, and a little money into it to get it running right. Wiring was a mess, and kill switches missing. Go for it if it's in good shape at a reasonable price.

Came across this one and placed the winning bid. Don't often pull the trigger on workers but this one is my favorite model worker.

Thanks for all the prayers and support as it worked. Got out of surgery just fine and am looking to recover now. I should have a lot of keyboard time in the next few days. Im turning in as i just got home and am tired from anesthesia.

Totally in agreement with Richard being ... well a true RICHARD CRANIUM ... ! It's going to be interesting what's going to happen without Aaron masterminding the builds . What's funny is how Richard hasn't figured out why his builds don't bring in the $$$ at Barrett Jackson or any auction for that matter . I love watching him lose his arsh at the auctions. Maybe just maybe if he conducted himself in a better manner he could gain some respect from the car guy's . I too pretty much watch all the shows that have to with anything mechanical !

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Prayers just sent your way.

Gave bendy a workout today, got bogged to the axles a few times and if it wasn't for lots of lock to lock on the steering it wouldn't have made the slope. Gave me a good excuse to hose her down

It does somewhat work! Just don't over do it or expect the glaring obvious to go unnoticed.

It's kind of tight getting to the lower steering assy. front mount but just lean the hood forward and break them loose with a 9/16" wrench then use a socket on the back. Youll have to move the tie rod mount plate out of the way for each bolt. New lower steering assy installed. Hangs a couple of inches lower and it's a bit wider. But as I said, could be fabricated if you can't find one. Front view of the tie rod mount plate. A little dirty under... smh. You can see the slight backward angle of the lower portion of the plate. Wouldn't be that hard to tack it in place and then adjust the angle from photos and eye ball it. It's not a high performance vehicle or anything. Post install of the Axle, spindles, pin and plate assy and all hardware. It was all greased well while still up on in the air as advised before. I highly suggest doing this to get the grease into the needed friction points that you won't get to if you front end is on the ground when you grease it. And Finally the Rims. Bearings all packed and nuts locked in with hubs on. Will most likely will change these over to trailer hubs and rims in the future as I'm considering a FEL for this tractor with the addition of a 2-3 cylinder diesel IF I can find one for the right price and condition. Like I said... Still need the tie rod nut washers as the nuts bottom out on the threads. Probably pick those up locally tomorrow if I can. Here is my first welding project that I completed last week. It's the extension kit to go along with this whole project. Got the blade for $30 from a local hoarder. Good guy though. Great deal. Got the entire front and assy and the blade for $300. Had the frame with a old rusty 48" blade that I bent after catching a 1" raised driveway of a neighbors a month or so ago. Here is the blade. I decided to put a new wear bar made of 3/8" x 4" Steel. This should give the plow some arse to scrap well. Don't worry, I shortened it to 42.5". I drilled the holes and used to new carriage bolts for a smooth finish on that too. Shot is with the old FE.

Toro thinks it was 1986. Garry

Hey Fellas. Got a great deal on an almost complete front end off of 520h to go my 312-8. Everything is in really good condition. A tiny bit of play but not really bad at all. Nothing like my 90' 520h had on it before I replaced the spindles. I fabricated myself a plow extension kit last week before installing the front end today. I was sold the axle, spindles, good tie rods, lower steering shaft, lower steering support on both ends (front and steering tower areas) as well as the set of 8" rims with all working order hardware. I slap a new set of 16" x 7.5 -8" rubber on the rims, repacked the bearings and spindle thrust bearings and lubed everything after each piece was installed and still on the jack stands. Just have to pick up the tied rod washers and adjust the tie rod lengths and she'll be in fully operational order. Only thing left will be to build a new angle adjust handle for the plow and I'll be done. Figured I'd offer up some progress photos. Enjoy! Pre install... (excuse the clutter still working on that. Summer time will get er done!) New (used) axle, spindles and rims with all hardware. Pre tire removal. Was letting the soapy water sit on the beads for a few before replacement. Makes a world of difference. Really lets the tires slide right off the rims and the bead breaks with ease after only a couple of minutes of sitting with this solution on it. Dawn dish soap! Gotta Love it! New Rubber on... Will refinish the rims this summer. And I will be breaking the bead and using paper to cover the tires. No more painting rims with the tires off. ha ha. Pulled the old 312-8 tie rods with a 1/2" OE wrench at the top of tie rod end and 9/16" wrench on the bottom. Pulled the 1/2" Retaining bolt for the axle pin and plate assy. as well as the C-clip for it form the front. Dropped the whole front end out of the tractor at this point. Didn't even take the rims off. Trying to keep time down. Pulled the battery and steering column pin and lifted the steering wheel shaft out of the way to get the lower column support. Removed the two 9/16" bolts/nuts for the steering wheel shaft and lower steering shaft support and pulled that out. Interesting that WH moved to a threaded cotter pin locked nut later in years on the lower steering shaft from just the cotter pin and washers on the 520h that I have. Pulled the two 9/16" bolts and nuts from the front lower steering shaft support. At this point the lower steering shaft assy. was completely free but I also had to take and extra step and remove one side of the mid tach-matic support assy. which allowed me to slip the lock and pin mechanism out so that the lower steering assy could pass by it. Also had to lift the tractor up a bit more for clearance of that stuff as I had to pull it down and to the rear to remove and install it. Didn't photograph that. But you can see the parts that need to be removed in the picture below. I just loosened the three 9/16" bolts on the top, right hand side of the photo. Old 312-8 Lower Steering Shaft assy with shorter tie rod mount plate next the swept axle's lower shaft assy. and the beefier tie rods. Big difference in placement. Could weld a plate I guess to the bottom of the old style with the right measurements and angle. For anyone that wants to take this route, let me know and I'll get the right dimensions with a sketch up of it all.

so today i had a little free time to check out those rims and tires off the industrial paint machines. both these are a match set and close to the original wheel horse rims. i drilled and tapped rims for grease zerks. after i get new tubes the original front tires to 701 are going on these rims. rims have ball bearing bushings in them i had to put a couple washers on each side but not bad. in spring the rims are getting repainted. the one tire and rim have paint drips on it but for time being its ok. i also noticed someone drilled a hole through spindles for cotter keys. i think they had issues keeping front tires on. spindle wear isnt bad a little wear not alot. my dads 502 had issues keeping tire on the front snap rings kept popping off. ended up replacing whole front axle couple years ago because it was wore out. this ones not bad on this 701..

Is the spring item 56 is this illustration? You can enlarge it and see where it hooks if it is. https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro/mowers-lawn-garden-tractor/31-16oe01-516-h-toro-516-h-garden-tractor-1988/clutch-brake-and-motion-control-linkage/ The 516 shares a parts list with the 520-H and this is the 520-H/1100 page but I think these parts are the same for both. Garry Found it in a parts list in the manuals here

My wheel spacers are 1/8" steel band bent in a circle and welded together. To prevent scratching the paint, I slipped plastic door edge guard over the edges of the steel. Work great.

Like they did with the Pantera

Used to be something called hardware stores that would have these things. Too bad most of them are gone. You might get lucky at a big box store. This is what you want

Dear Lord, Slim just forked out to be a supporter & he's a really good fella so please see what you can do for him with his back surgery. Amen

Best twenty bucks you will ever spend Slim, That guy we may know Apples mentioned might be toting a beat up & well used coffee mug that may or may not have coffee in it Prolly be hanging out pestering guys on the corner!

Howard, don't forget, the front end loader and removable steering wheell on Jays ride.

Both K17 engines are basically the same and use the same oil pump. Only main difference is the the rod bearings are pressure lubricated on the series 2. The first series was splash lubed by oil spray from holes in the camshaft.

I'm fairly certain you meant to say cup point. The dog point is used to hold the gear shifter in. Cup point Dog point

Nice score! It looks complete so that shouldn't be a problem. I would suggest the usual of: New drive chain. Check the shaft drive sprockets for wear. Check/replace auger bushings. Check/replace the bearings for the shaft drive. Check scraper for wear. Spare/new drive belt. Something you might consider doing is cutting a flat spot on the underside of the lift handle to make it easier to install the belt. I use a three foot length of 1/2" steel bar to lift the handle due to the awkward angle it is in and pressure it exerts. The flat spot prevents it from slipping while your fingers are between the two pulleys. It could act like a guillotine!.

I don't yet have the amps in my shop to run the compressor I'd like, but I do have several Wheel Horses & Sears with accessible side PTOs... I wonder...

Road Apples is tellin yeah right ,,,,,Look him up in an Ocean of Red,,,,,easy enuff to find,,,,,tall guy,,,greay hair,,,,Red Tractor....THATS IT OOOOH,,,,and his Horsey Hat,,,,,,and Horsey shirt,,,,,,,AND,,,,,,,his Horsey Head,,,,,,,,Maybe a pic or 2 will explain,,,olololoololol

$1600 sounded like a lot until (in my head) I go over all the new parts bought for my GT14 from Dufur. New HF 13hp Predator, new skid steer rear tires, new from turf tires. Add in donor Charger 12 (for Hydro pump), paint, nuts & bolts and I could have bought the D160! Unrelated, but I've been making weekend trips to Bremerton now for a month. Bought myself another money pit. Bought the near 100 year old Theater organ from Bremerton Community Theater. Took me three trips (7 hour round trip driving) just to remove the 1000ish pipes, probably three or four more trips for rest of the organ. Plans are to install in back of my workshop at home. I should probably have my head examined.......

Ahhh! I think I can even smell it. One of my favorites for sure. I'll do the same for you!

Most of us go to our favorite online Toro parts dealer. Mine is ProPartsDirect Click on the link and it will take you directly to the transmission parts page. Your gasket is a #3912.

OK, since you're taking orders... make mine half & half, no sugar please.

Im going to have to write this stuff down and practice

The Lord will take care of you. Just keep your faith. Amen

Now take a oath and say I do not have to tell my wife when I buy another wheel horse and for sure I will not tell how much it cost.

Thanks so much 953. That is the nicest thing anyone has done for me in a long time. I have a rough two years with some ups and downs like everyone else. I lost my son to heroin 16 months ago about a month before his 22nd birthday. I used to be into building up golf carts along with my interest in tractors. When he died I sold anything related to golf carts because I did it for him and wanted to forget. Anyways God has a plan for everyone on this planet and mine is to continue living my life and taking care of my wife and daughter as best as I can. Amen

In Jesus Name........Amen.

Thanks Zeek, Hope to see you there. Should this date and info be put on the calendar ?

Here's the flyer and some additional show info

Always a work in progress to try and improve things.