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Just picked up a complete 418-8. It sat for a couple years so it needs a little TLC, but it was free so I couldn't pass it up. It came with tire chains, a mower deck in need of repair and a set of rusty hubcaps. Just in time for a winter project!

I have a wheel horse i was thinking about selling......

i don't think that was an aspirin

Reminds me of my Rat Rod when I brought it home. What it looked like then. And now.

NOS 420 LSE....NOS 420 LSE...NOS 420 LSE...NOS 420 LSE...

Steve after a bottle of his homemade wine!

@stevasaurus responding to a post about a transaxle problem!

If your carbs throttle shaft still has a reasonable tight fit in the housing consider cleaning & rebuilding it. If the throttle shaft and hole are worn where the shaft has any thing more than a slight amount of side play replace the carb!. Some on here have drilled and bushed the shaft and I've done it too, I like staying original and buy US made but it's not worth the extra effort to rebuild one and get marginal performance because the shaft hole is leaking too much air.....ask me how I know. . I'm also about to order a chinese carb for a k301.

The new swimsuit issue is here !

I shouldn't have had that last burrito........

I won what election?

There is some interesting facts about the hein werner, the company still remains in waukesha but different building acrossed town. Top picture is the building they where in rear side of building is spancrete machinery corp which is a container crate building company like on ship yards and for paper mills. The other side where hein warner is for sale for a easy 900k hah.

Here you go!

OK guys, I may have had a break through on the mystery. You are most likely on to something with the third party or distributer idea. Apparently these pumps were made by Hein-Werner the same company that made lift units for . Century Fox was an industrial name that was used by them. The writings backwards but this pic shows the two names together on this ram. I wouldn't doubt that they also made the hydro unit sold by Ram-Pac at the time. They all look very similar and most of the parts look like they interchange. I'll have to remember that next time. I took 22 in to Montello, but I could've easily detoured your way.

Letterman had the idea a long time ago...

Did ya see the velcro non slip riding pants thread????

OOOO! Its so red and shiny!

For some of us who own the Vacuum Bagger attachment, I always wondered if it could be adapted to being a leaf bagger blowing the leaves into a trailer towed behind my 312-8 WH. Well, yes it can. So I am providing some pictures of what I did and did this on a budget. The flexible hose is a clear leaf vacuum hose bought from "Ken Jones Tires" out of Worcester, MA. They sell a bunch of different length, sizes and grades. Mine is is 7" in diameter by 6' long PVC model. It connects to 2 - 7" stove pipe right angle pieces I picked up at Lowes. Very hard to find 7" pipe connection. Only two on the shelf. The hose clamps I had to take two of them and put them together to make them large enough to fit around the hose. As to attaching the hose pipe to the Vac Blower, I bought some flat steel pieces 1" x 1/16" thick x 24" long at Home Depot and bent that piece to fit the shape of the square exit of the blower. I then bent a 2" x 1/16" x 24" long piece to be round ring which will fit inside the stove pipe (non-crimped end). I then welded the ends together and grinded my welds down. I fit the square piece inside the round piece and cut short supports ( 4 total) connecting the flat side of the square support to the round support. I then traced the frame onto a flat sheet of this steel cutting out the square hole and cutting the circle part so this will enclose all the gaps between the square support and circle support. I then used Liquid Nails to fill in the gaps between the sheet metal and frame supports since welding all the sheet metal will melt numerous holes in the thin metal. After the Liquid Nails dries, I drilled 1/4" holes (4 total) thru the support frame on my drill press thru the flats sides and then fitted long SS bolts with wing nuts, lock washers and washers. I then put the pre-drilled frame on the blower and drilled the 4 holes again that will take the 4 bolts. The stove pipe is fitted to the round frame by drilling every inch or so and used a pneumatic rivet gun to secure the stove pipe to the steel frame. As for the trailer I wanted the leaves to be dropped from the top and not be pushed in from the front so I could hold a tad more. Enclosed in the top wood triangle is a curved piece of aluminum that deflects the leaves downward so it does not collect and plug up the top part. I then filled any gaps inside the triangle box with expanding foam so seal all cracks up. I have a 8" gap running the width of the trailer on the top with a 1/2" wide mesh screen over it for air flow to come out but still hold the leaves inside for the most part. I changed my blades to Gator Blades by Oregon to mulch up the leaves to smaller pieces. I found the regular blades did not do enough chopping that was really needed to avoid the hose from plugging up. The regular blades were still sending full size oak leaves into the blower. I also attached two spring handle holders on the side so these can hold a rake sideways on the side of the trailer. My rear door is hinged at the top to swing up and I can rake the leaves out. If I have a clog (usually at the exit point), I use the end of the rake handle to break it up while the blower is on and it will eventually come out. CONS: 1.Gator Blades do have a lot of under deck blow. So, I let the leaves pile up under my tractor keeping the tractor in 1st or 2nd gear Low speed. You may have to raise and lower the deck as needed to get the leaves to flower under the deck. 2. Your lawn will never look carpet clean. Gator blades mulch so much there will always be leaves here and there. 3. Clean your mower deck with a blower every time you empty your trailer. Leaves can get in between the pulleys and the belts begin to lose grip and the blower will slow down thus clogging the hose up. It is noticeable as the leaves move slower thru the hose to a point they stop mid way 4. Wet leaves suck. I mean, do not do this with wet leaves. Clogs all the time. 5. You have to watch the hose carefully on you turns so you do not turn too sharp either way. I have to make something with a spring and arm that hold my hose away from the tractor as I move a long. I found numerous times the stove pipe ends would turn to a point where the hose was rubbing against my wheel. and 6. Too much stress on the stove pipe joints (a turn where you are stretching the hose to far) will pull the flex joint apart. I popped mine back together and used duct tape to strengthen the joint. Otherwise, it works! Cost of the hose $80 with S/H, Gator blades $65, Stove Pipe ends $8 each, flat steel $25, lumber $40. Cyclone Rake, which I know is way better is $1200++. Co-Worker just got one for his 520 WH.....

Found a couple of photos of the first Wheelhorse i bought ( and still got ). Its a 1969 Commando 7 bought for £50 on the 17 March 2003. my Grandaughter is now 22,

The two piece lift with the tube and flag allows the blower to float with the changes of the the terrain. Even more critical with hydro lift since that stays stationary. If locked with a solid link the blower could raise off the ground or raise your front tires off the ground, depending on conditions. Manual lift would allow the lift handle to move if locked solid. Think you're better off using the two piece design. The solid link for the snow plow is to apply down pressure which you don't need for a blower, they're heavy enough to scrape the ground clean without it.

No argument here. That's actually why I wrote that, so people are aware and can make their own decision when it comes to buying them. And thank you for the kind words!

My wife just told me I have too many Wheel Horses...

Just trying to see if I attached the pic correctly. This is the tractor I'm working on

THE AYES HAVE IT!!!

It sounds like the whole thing is toast, it's a 2000 mile round trip for me but I'll take the tractor off your hands, I've got time.

Will have to remember that when perusing the bone yards then guys if I see older Bolens & PK's. Interesting ... I know exactly where you are talking about Josh...way before my time tho! The way that bracket looks Dan aftermarket??? Doesn't look homemade and pretty nifty the way it fits in there. And you mighta drove right by my house to get it ...if I wasn't rustling myself I would have rode shotgun!

Ha, they probably order the Chinese clones and mark it up. That price makes it pretty clear they prefer to sell you new equipment instead of parts! Kind of makes it difficult to support your local shop huh? I haven't used the clones for a Kohler yet but have used the tecumseh versions with no complaints. The Chinese just rip off everybody's stuff with absolutely no regard to any patent rights and reproduce them. Can't really go wrong for $30 compared to $400 for a new carb. Every auto parts store sells gasket material in sheets so it's easy to cut your own. What's wrong with your carb that you need a brand new replacement? Usually a thorough cleaning will do it and a bowl gasket if needed. The fixed jet carbs are a bit tougher to just clean so a $30 replacement saves time. I don't even bother with cleaning Tecumseh carbs any more since those are only $20 new.

now thats a wheel horse.

It would use a starter generator with a belt to the flywheel where the pull-rope would wrap. We have a B&S 14 hp that is made the same. The fuel tank is hiding the S/G bracket bolt holes. The tank would have to be relocated.

Get it running, slide it over on the cart, hook a belt to the wheels, override the governor and see how fast it goes!

Well-- did some quick research because "inquiring minds" want to know! I found an ad placed by them in the Oshkosh Northwestern in July 1967. They were located at that time at 422 Marion Road which was that totally dumpy industrial area along the north side of the Fox river (you guessed it Jim!) SW of the the UWO campus. Remember where all the bars were and the old blue Radford building was? All of those buildings are gone now, replaced by the government assisted housing and the face lifted buildings. Apparently, these pumps were used in the tube frame Bolens tractors of the mid to later 60's as well as the Power King compact tractors or the same time period. Their telephone number was 231-4255. I'll bet you they won't be on the other end if you try calling it I'm amazed that a company like that was located right here and yet there is so little info left about it. It really makes me wonder if they produced those pumps as Jim was saying or if they were a third party seller

OMG!! Turds have eyes....who would have known?? What would they see??

A down and dirty method of checking the cylinder is to remove your compression ring and insert it at the top of the cylinder. Measure the end gap and see if any light is visible at the sides to indicate out of round; push the ring down the cylinder an inch using the piston to keep it square; recheck then go down another inch and so on.If the end gap is consistent and no gaps are evident around the ring the cylinder is good to go.

they said i have a wheel horse problem...

11-16-1959 The Sound of Music premieres on Broadway Did the young Austrian nun named Maria really take to the hills surrounding Salzburg to sing spontaneously of her love of music? Did she comfort herself with thoughts of copper kettles, and did she swoon to her future husband’s song about an alpine flower while the creeping menace of Nazism spread across central Europe? No, the real-life Maria von Trapp did none of those things. She was indeed a former nun, and she did indeed marry Count Georg von Trapp and become stepmother to his large brood of children, but nearly all of the particulars she related in her 1949 book, The Story of the Trapp Family Singers, were ignored by the creators of the Broadway musical her memoir inspired. And while the liberties taken by the show’s writers, Howard Lindsay and Russel Crouse, and by its composer and lyricist, Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II, caused some consternation to the real Maria von Trapp and to her stepchildren, according to many later reports, those liberties made The Sound of Music a smash success from the very night of its Broadway opening on this day in 1959.

Go to eBay and search for Kohler carburetors sold by seller "cfamily10"

Not to start an argument (especially with somebody like wallfish whose opinion I respect), or to hijack anybody's thread, but this to me is a very good reason NOT to buy Chinese parts unless it's absolutely necessary. The Wheel Horses and Kohlers of this world put a lot of time and money into designing and building their products, and I try to support their efforts whenever I can. Don't get me wrong, $400 is a ridiculous amount of money to have to pay for a new genuine Kohler carb (you can find them cheaper, but not by much), and $20 to $40 for a Chinese knockoff is very appealing, but my own personal preference is always to rebuild whatever I can. Ironhorse1077, I would suggest trying to clean and rebuild your old carb. If you've never done one before, there's several links on RedSquare that will guide you through the process. It's not hard, I can even do it. And if you can't make it work, by all means go for a new one. Either way, have some fun with it and good luck! You know RedSquare is here if you run into problems.

the Information Age can be a pain in the butt, however at times a little research online can provide some interesting and definitive answers to questions that just 20 years ago would've been nearly impossible to acquire. Great job Ryan ferreting that one out! We'll have to research that Fox River Manufacturing Company a little more and see what we can come up with. I'd guess that in the manufacturing slump of the mid to late 70's that they probably closed their doors... I wonder see how many of the parts for Dan's pump are still available since Hein-Werner is still around?. Seems like their focus now is floor jacks, lifts, hoists, etc.. I suppose their isn't the need for small hydraulic systems in today's marketplace like there was 40 years ago. Much automation has gone to electrics. The new higher end cub cadets have electric power steering even(not sure that I'm a fan of that!). Looks like some of the wear parts like seals and gaskets are still available. It would be interesting to speak with someone from the company and find out what can still be purchased for those old pumps. It would also be interesting to see how many different lawn and garden applications that those pumps ended up on...

What do you guys think about the redheads? Don't tell the wife!

So, I wanted to post a quick update on this. Walt graciously offered to help me, but because of my overly busy schedule, I never made it out there. So, what I ended up doing is as follows. I didn't really want to cut the weld, holding the handle tubing on the bracket. Mainly because I didn't know if I would be able to get the right angle again when I went to re weld the handle back on. So, instead I determined that the handle was the same OD as black steel gas pipe, which luckily I have a bunch of around the house. So I took a tubing cutter and cut the handle off about 4 inches from the bracket. This allowed me to access most of the rod/button. Playing around with it, I could see that there was a slight bend in it, towards the bracket. I'm not sure how that happened, but based on some of the other things I had to fix on this tractor, I wasn't surprised. I got the rod lined up the best I could and slightly bent it in the opposite direction. Using the top spring and cup to test alignment, it appeared to be in the right spot. I then used a 3/4" tubing threader to try and cut threads on the remaining part of the handle. The first attempt failed because the metal of the handle is very soft and it ended up warping. I cut it off another inch further down and tried again. This time I went very slowly, going forwards and backwards often to clear out the shavings. I also used extra cutting oil to keep it lubricated. I managed to get 6-7 good threads on it, then I tightened on a 3/4" gas line coupler. Then it was just a matter of taking a quick measurement and cutting a piece of 3/4" gas line to the right length to use for the top of the handle. After I had it all screwed together, I again tested the push button, and to my amazement it worked perfectly! A quick 4 coats of paint and it is now back on the tractor. It looks good enough and should make plowing this winter much easier, since I don't have to hold the blade in the air by hand! I never was able to locate a used spare, so this may help someone in the future if they run into a similar issue. The only question I have left is where would I find a pin to hold the spring? The one I took out was mangled and not usable. I cut the shaft off of the back of a large rivet and used that for the time being. Thanks again for the help.

Here's a photo of the ones she knows about

If you search Hein Werner pumps here on the forum @Lane Ranger & @953 nut have postings that would say yes.

I have spend some time last night and this morning looking around on these pumps on bolens I have found none on them that are for sale, PK seems to be very common almost on every unit

I have been wanting to do that for a long time. Excellent tutorial. After I switch to Gator blades it increased the amount of load in the collection bags by about 3 times as much. Got a big surprise when I went to lift them to dump them in s trailer to be hauled to compost pile. I too caught a unsuspecting rock which blew a hole through the blower housing and right up past my head. Covered the hole with thin steel plate and silicone and tape.

They look like bobcat or skid steer tires.

Have used quite a few TSC seats. Most often in my local store. Grandsons love going to TSC! Have the seat covers too. Pouchs come in handy. Found a trashed Jazzy. Removed the seat and the totaled arm rests. Comfy. Emblem on the seat back? Great idea! (Note the USMC logo on my belt guard. Once a Jarhead, always a Jarhead!) Passed a yard sale, didn't stop. Saw some boat seats, , maybe?

Picked up this little gem from @Shynon Saturday morning. Met with Tom, his son Mike @prondzy, son in law Scott & @Terry M at a restaurant off I90/94 & had a nice breakfast & some chat. They were on an all day & most of the night quest to buy and deliver some horses in IL and IA. Also got a nice tub for my son in law @Rp.wh for yard work & tub rides for his young'uns...an early birthday present from his mom! I bought this tractor for my wife Cindy who was born in 1962 so now we have a '59, ( the year I was born) a '60, '61 & now the 702. She wants me to paint the tractor candy apple red & Tom says it was a good candidate for a repaint ( his 1st resto ) but I beg to differ.. paint looks good to be but you guys be the judge! Plans for this tractor right now is odd jobs around the ranch and to pull Dino's @stevasaurus 8 inch plow just for fun! Mike informed me he broke the motor in plowing with it for 5 hours. Also Cindy's ride around at shows! Gonna haul wood with it today& quickly becoming my favorite & go to tractor! Excuse me while I go change my handle! Enjoy

I get goose bumps when I see pictures of 702s. The 702 and a short frame square hood should be in every ones stable. Mine has doing leaf duty. I'd put the plow on her and re-plow the small garden.