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I took a 1977 B-80 frame, C-160 front axle and steering, C-120 8-speed transmission, B-80 fender pan, and a B-100 hood and put it all together to form a 1977 tractor. The only thing that was missing was an engine. If I put a K-181 on it, it would have been a B-80. If a put a K-241 on it, it would have been a B-100. If I had put a K-301 on it, it would have been a C-120. K-341, a C-160. I ended up with a K-241 and so it was a B-100. I added the appropriate decals and there it was. So, in answer to your question, basically no difference other than horse power and lights.

here is my 753 I gave a refresh with all the goodies:)

This gets brought up quite a bit. It depends on the year. Prior to 1978 they were much the same. In 76 and 77 the difference was the rear tires, 22.750 vs 23.850, low back seat vs high back, 13" steering wheel vs 15", headlights standard on the C's, optional on the B's, the horsepower of course, and a couple of insignificant things. The B-60 is recoil start. I bought a 1976 B-80 brand new and after a couple of years I 'converted' it to a C-160. The frame and transmission are identical. In 74 and 75 they made 4 speed B's but they were still the strong garden tractor. Starting in 1978 the B's became lawn tractors and weren't nearly as strong.

The Repco FG 4175 15 amp voltage rectifier/regulator failed on my C160 Automatic after 41 years of service. It was overcharging at about 22 volts and the amp gauge was fluctuating over 15 amps. I found the terminals burned and the plastic connector melted. The alternator output on the K341 tested good. I did some research online and found what I believe was a equivalent replacement rectifier/regulator at DB Electrical. SKU: AKH6001 for $27.74 (including shipping). http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-11574-rectifierregulator-john-deere-kohler-engines-15amp.aspx?CAWELAID=130000240000002380&CAGPSPN=pla&gclid=CKm0n5j3m8YCFcURHwodPKEAtQ& The website said to call to verify the application. I called and spoke with a DB Electrical representative and they confirmed it was a replacement for the Repco FG 4175 15 amp rectifier/regulator. The only difference is that the spade terminals on the replacement are 0.187” instead of the 0.250” on the original. The length, width and mounting holes are the same. The height is ½” shorter, but with the new modern internal electronics the heat sink size is more than adequate. The price certainly was reasonable, so I ordered one. The new unit arrivedt he next day. Since my connector shell was already damaged , I crimped 3 single 0.187” insulated terminals on wire ends. The terminal location is identical and are clearly marked on the new unit. The replacement unit also has the provision for a ground wire. I highly recommend grounding the new unit with a wire to the battery ground point on the tractor. I use a single point star grounding scheme on all my electronic and power equipment. The AKH6001 rectifier/regulator charges and regulates at 14.3 volts (full speed and idle) with the lights on. The amp gauge is steady and decreases smoothly as the battery charges. I have run it now for over 6 hours for snow removal of the last two storms here in Springfield MA. It is keeping the 22 series battery properly charged. Note: Since I ordered my rectifier/regulator 2 weeks ago, there has been a price increase to $28.30 (includes shipping) on this unit. Still a great price for this unit.

My 1964 /604. Still trying to find the correct seat,and steering wheel. I'll find one someday I'm sure. And my 1964 lawn ranger that haden't ran in yrs but she's running like new now!

A 310-8 will easily pull 1000 lbs of wood in a 2 wheel cart all day long that mower is not that heavy and has a real low center of gravity the 414 would have no problem with that. It would probably not even notice that the mower was following it.

With out question the 414 would have enough HP. The limiting factor in most of these tractors is traction, not HP.

Uh Craig, has OSHA blessed this mod ?

I know it's a little OVERKILL, but I wanted to try the snowthrower on today's 3 inches of snow. I ran the C-120 (saved from a junkyard) in 3rd gear high, and did the whole driveway in five minutes. Took longer to shovel around the cars than it took to snowblow.

Shallowwater's right when he says " My choice would be a Black Hood. What the heck, just go big! " Unlike most of these guys, I have one horse that does it all...She's not only cute, but she multi-tasks as well...Sorta like a perfect wife (which btw I am also blessed with!). It's a C-105 black hood with a 10hp kohler. Handed over to me from my brother and still going strong...

Didn't Johny Cash sing that song

It is a real wonder that us looking for parts ever find it on the evil pay site who's name is not to be mentioned. I have been looking for a muffler for my D160 for sometime and this has been listed for sometime, but the company handling the sale for the owner (a US company) listed it in the UK (England). Any how through intense search efforts ( I knew it was out there) I finally found it, and not used, BRAND NEW NOS stock, 138.00 bucks shipped to my door, high, but the last one I will ever need.

I found the gallon of used oil I had sitting by the trash can to take to one of my dealerships to go in the oil heater. My snowblower is nicely oiled inside now, I bet. I was wondering why the snow coming out was suddenly brownish black, then the jug came flying out, LOL

We got about 6 to 8 inches overnight. Used the blower first, then the blade to clean up. Then I did the driveways for two neighbors.

They should...it's actually kinda fun. Skimming your fingers over the tires as your putting along.

Hey welcome to red square here's before and after of my rj After is wd40 and #0000 steel wool and a couple of hours. Looks like some tire foam as well. Go get'em.

Looking great Jim. As far as the idler pulley goes here's mine. The stud had a shoulder it tightens to and no separate spacer. Of course there's no way to be positive it's original but I'm thinking it is. There's also no way of knowing if they did it both ways depending on the parts on hand. If you're looking at the same IPL drawing I am it's actually a RJ drawing that was modified to become a Suburban and they screwed up on a few things with the idler pulley being one of them. I don't have another idler like what is on my Suburban but I do have an extra off a later model with a 3/8" bolt and spacer if it will help you out.

Also did a little work on the steering gear.....holes in the tie rods were ovaled so drilled them out to 5/8 and fitted bushings. Added a bronze washer for a little more smoothness. Steering is nice and tight now.

My choice would be a Black Hood. What the heck, just go big!

The 857 was my Dad's and I think it was his go to horse. I like that the hood lifts up, unlike the Round Hoods that use the thumb screws. The 8 hsp Kohler will start just by looking at it and will run all day on a tank of gas. Cornering is hard to beat...almost zero turn. This tractor has not been OSHA'd yet...easy wiring and electrical maintenance, and no fuses everywhere. I really like the rear discharge 36" mower decks for these horses...gear driven. And I pick up more chicks riding around the block with this horse, and any of the others that I have...it is a chick magnet.

I have a wheelhorse ride away Jr. I don't know much about it. I believe it's a rj 35. It has black rimes and the tractor is purple. I have only seen a few purple ones. I would appreciate any info any one would have. Thank you!!

Didnt know how else to post these pics of my tractor so im trying it here.. Except the seat which im getting a new one in spring these seem to always rip.. A cloth one this time, but anyway this is my baby !! The cloth in front of the engine is a heating pad to keep the engine warm,, it is 3 degrees right now so have to keep her warm and snuggly !!

Pretty neat http://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article60444281.html

I have only owned a wheel horse for 6 months now.i have been reading a lot on Redsquare about all the different types and models of wheelhorse. Can any one tell me what the difference is between the B series and the C series. i have a b80 and a c160. they both look the same to me except for the 8 horse b80 and the 16 horse c160. is the frame the same ? i know tire size is different. Is the c series built stronger ? I try to research here as much as i can. I do read often as much as i can without going blind.there is so much info here and thanks to everyone for it.

Even though the 520H is my favorite WH. If I had to be practical and could have only 1 Wheel Horse. I would take a B100 auto or 8 speed. Or a C100 8 speed. It's enough h.p. for my suburban driveway in the winter. I ran a blower on my 74 B100 auto for 3 years. I also like it to for mowing, because it's not as heavy and easy to steer. I put a 36" RD deck on it. I like where the Hydro stick is located on the B100 auto too. It also maneuvers with ease.I have over 1 acre to mow at the farm. I really like the 520H for that job.

one tip,get a couple of studs that match the bolt pattern of the 4 bolts that hold the tranny to the frame,im pretty sure they are 3/8 coarse ,hand thread 2 of them into2 of the holes,diagonal is good,this helps to alighn the 2,then start and tighten up the 2 bolts,undo the studs and replace with the other 2 blts,you can make the studs from a couple of bolts and cut the heads off

If the Swisher is self powered, you do not need much to just pull it around.

1st...$250 is not bad for a transmission that has been gone through and is known good with new seals. That said, it is fun to guess what is wrong with your old transmission. I will say this...since you are going to tear into anyway, it doesn't really mater what we guess. Know this...I think your transmission is going to be fixable...no problem. I am not going to guess at this point...not enough information. If everything outside is tight and working, it certainly sounds like it's your differential. Once you get the transmission on a bench, you can try a few things to narrow things down. Some thoughts: 1. If it is one of the differential bolts that came loose...you can get grinding, but you would not get the no movement until something caught. 2. If you can not pull out the axle...it is not the "C" clip. 3. If you pull and push on the axles, you should get about 1/8" of slack. If you get more, but can't pull out the axle, then all 4 differential bolts have come loose. 4. With the transmission in neutral, turn one of the axles...the other one should move in the opposite direction. If not, you have lost the teeth on either one of the axle gears, or the spider gears, or both. This would give you, most likely, what you are talking about. 5. With the transmission in any gear, turn the input shaft in a counter-clockwise rotation. Both axles should turn in the direction of the gear you have selected. Now, while turning the input shaft, grab either of the axles and hold it from turning. The other axle should keep turning in the same direction it was before. Now keep turning the input shaft and grab the other axle...the same should happen. This would mean that you have a healthy transmission...but you do not. You are going to have something that does not fit what I said. This is what we need to know. Doing the steps that I stated above, one can determine if they have a good transmission. You can also get a good idea what is wrong.

All we got in Richmond was about 1 1/2" of snow then sleet and freezing rain. Open door to let dog out about 11:00 PM fell and busted my butt . Lucky nothing hurt. Went out about 8:00 AM this morning still slick. Now 12:30 PM sun shining and about 55 degrees. Going to walk the dog.

The pulley I used required me to have an 1/8 spacer behind it. This allowed me some room to add my own version of a belt brake.

I have the pulley that Racin Bob shows in his first pic. I gave up on trying to get a match to the original set up. What I did was weld the hole shut in the clutch arm, then drilled & tapped it for a 3/8" bolt. This allowed me to use an off the shelf pulley from TSC. I do have my old pulley yet, the bearings are locked up but if you want it for the hardware let me know.

My idler identical to yours Bob with the shoulder stud pressed into the bearing so I would guess that that is the original configuration.

Well my Commando 8 didn't do too bad this morning with this soaking wet snow we have, altho I see a strong need for chains! I filled the tires with RV antifreeze, and I only weigh in at about 160 lbs. She just wouldn't push long distances with all that weight in front of the plow, but as long as I could take small bites it pushed fine. With just the turfs, it would lose traction. Chains I'm sure would have given me more bite. This is my first year having a for snow duty, so it's also a learning process for me. I'm really impressed though on just how well it does it's job. The other day when it was 20 below it started as tho it was 70 degrees. This morning we have steady rain and about 4" of snow but it is nothing but slush. Do I understand this is a short frame tractor? It's really maneuverable I got everything plowed out around the barn and the shed, and the house, which is basically a big circle. The 1/4 mile drive I drove down with the truck to open that up, I try the after I dry out to clean it up some more. Maybe by then it will melt out and make plowing easier. I could leave it but when it freezes again later, it will really be tough to plow. There was no way the blower on the other Commando was gonna deal with that slush. I did get to use it last night when I got home to clear a big drift and it worked great. I wish I had gotten into Wheel Horse years ago.

Well, you've heard of a BFH? How about a BOS? That's a Big Ole Screwdriver. I took a flat blade screwdriver with about a 14" shaft and started prying around the wheel hub. Once it started to move, I used my BOS and a regular screwdriver to keep it working up. Cleaned the shaft and coated it with anti seize so I don't have to go through this again!!! Guess I lucked out this time

On a plus side Florida is to receive a plant that produces the AK-47 Kalashnikov assault rifle. Welcome to Miami.

Steve what's up with the Tecky hater? I love those pain in the A>> Teckeys. Gary B....

no snow up here,we have received a few inches the past few days,not enough to blow,heres the snow herd that hasn't been used this year,weird winter for us,not one storm worthy of a thrower

I was aware of the " Allis-Chalmers Model G " but certainly never thought I'd have a chance to ever see a brand new one! Hmmm? Maybe someday we WILL see a brand new Wheel Horse!

I just got done with the snowblower. we got about 2 1/2 inches. The minute I started the snow changed to sleet. thats ok. wasnt deep enough and with the new bearings the snowblower sings. did a great job. sorry. I only got a couple night pictures. Its will turn to rain later. but at least had some fun. she did the wheel horse job. like its supposed to. Glenn

Love the 12 hp, 14 hp's and the 16 hp Kohlers. All easy to service and rarely need it much. Great garden tractors.

Yea 608 i love this engine,, she has 1000 hours on her and doesnt make puff of smoke nor does she burn a drop of oil, i change her oil spring and again in fall and change air and gas filter then also since she was new .. Funny my brother has a new huskervarna and always trying to get me to have a tug of war with him lmao,, cause he thinks his 23hp engine is the cats butt,, lol i just laugh at him and tell him " naa i dont wanna break your new toy on ya " lol the kohler 10 just has so much torqe ,, id pull his new toy in half hehe !!

I have 9 different brand built garden tractors, try and get know all there is to know about that many brands or at least 2-4 models of half a dozen brands, it takes some time.

I might as well throw the wrench in this. The guys above are correct...but if you want a really easy starting, better gas efficiency and sharper turning...with all of the above and about a 4" shorter frame...you want a short frame. square hood. 1965, 1966, 1967. My B-100 is sitting out the winter in the garage while my 876 and 857 are doing snow duty this winter. The 8 hsp Kohler has plenty of power to tackle any chore. If there is a down side, they do not have the 8 speed transmission, but the hydro solves that issue. Of course...there is no issue when you have one of each.

Pretty much what Dennis said is what I was going to say. But if you are looking for something simple to service, powerful enough to cut grass, push snow, and other chores, and is a good looking rig, you can't beat the 1976 or 1977 B-100 or C-120 8-speeds. And it is all metal!

That's what I was thinking Major. I'm just very hesitant to state things as if it's a fact that it was factory original. One thing I don't have is that belt stop tab on the top. I have an extra I may try to 'unweld' and use or make one or use a rod.