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I do have some more "vintage" footage of the old tractor owned by my dad. I just uploaded a video from a home movie, taken with regular 8mm film, probably in 1964. I am the little tyke driving it in the video, my older brother Jack started it up for me. This was taken in Emsworth, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Pittsburgh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKbB4oTky2s&feature=youtu.be I'll take some current pictures of my uncles wheelhorse next and post them maybe tomorrow.

I have owned 2 old wheelhorse tractors for about 20 years now, that were originally owned by my dad and uncle, and I'm finally ready to part with them. I have questions about their value and the best approach to finding the right buyer. I am located in St. Paul, MN Wheelhorse 1: Was owned by my dad, acquired around 1961-2. I think it is a Suburban model, not sure. Engine was replaced with more current Briggs 7hp. steering wheel replaced, head light added, other modifications to go with an electric-start engine that was on it in the 70s. I'm currently trying to get this one fully functional, (I have the mowing deck) but the Briggs has no spark and having trouble getting that fixed. Am I wasting my time on the Briggs? (Will any buyer immediately yank the engine and replace it with an original 4hp Koehler?) I'm thinking this one might be worth around $300 if I get it fully functional and cleaned up...not sure if that is a pipe dream, considering it has so many non-original modifications to it? In the attached pictures, it is the one with the family around it (that picture was taken in 1963) and the one with the blue seat (picture taken 9-21-15) Wheelhorse 2: Was owned by my uncle, I think he bought it brand new around 1959 or 1960? I think it might be an RJ. It is mostly original, but also not running. I hope to get it running also. It has a mower deck as well, and original tires, I have not seen any other wheelhorses of this vintage with those front tires. I'm thinking with this one being more original with a Koehler engine on it, maybe it is worth more than the other one, though I'm not sure on that, and it probably depends on me getting it operational. In the pictures below it is one the man (my uncle) riding it and looking at the camera, with the silver fish on the cabin behind it. (I think the picture was taken in August, 1960.) If anyone wants to contact me about these I can be reached at farmerie@yahoo.com. Otherwise, I'm just interested in hearing opinions on what I should do to maximize their value and make them visible to whoever would want them the most....also wondering what I can hope to get for them.

The first attempt happened just as the forum crashed for a minute. Admins can delete it, hopefully. I got tired of renting trailers, so I finally broke down and got one of the Harbor Freight DIY trailers. Turns out they will take the 20% off coupon on it. I was surprised, they won't take it for most expensive stuff It's coming along nicely. I also bought a welder and found out I suck at it as bad as I did in school.

These were all part of a big collection I had a few years back. Hope you enjoy the pics.

If this won't work there is no hope!

Here is what I run all year. They are great in the snow with wheel weights and no chains. Mike...........

If you decide you don't want it, let me know, I'll drive down and get it.

I think the first picture with the family around it has value, at least to me! There aren't many original pictures of the late 50's early 60's pictures around, at least not as good as yours. I would never have of thought the 58/59' RJs hoods would have such a smooth glossy finish as the picture shows when they were new. Thanks for posting it.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting either of them running to sell... true collectors of these little round hoods are concerned with originality, more than anything else. As far as selling them, I think you've come to the right place, right here on once our members see them, they'll pretty much, sell themselves. Have anymore of these vintage photo's to post up here... they contain a lot of good info, lot's to learn from them...thank you for posting them.

I have a chance to buy a 520xi with mower deck and push blade for $600. I have not physically seen the tractor yet, just a pic. The seller claims there are no known issues besides flat front tire. What do you all think is this a good deal or not?

Makes me wonder if its too good to be true??

It is a great price, almost too cheap. but maybe the owner just doesn't know what he has

I plan to celebrate this Bears season by not watching a single, painfull second of them. If management doesn't care, why should I? Catch more fish, cut more wood, play with my tractors. The Cubs will score more runs than the Bears score points in October. With the first pick of the 2016 NFL draft, the Chicago Bears select...

With "The Summer that Wasn't" due to my accident and losing my buddy, Mrs. Sailor and I are going to be good to ourselves after all the recent trials and tribulations. It's a 7-day cruise from Quebec City to Boston. This is from the web, the Veendam in Quebec City where we will embark. It will feel good to be back at sea again!

Can someone tell me what year this tractor is , no motor but looks like all the parts are there , model # T656 , serial # 255638 , and what size motor was in this

Do yourself a favor and replace the chain and idler sprockets now. That thing is probably 20-30 years old. Looks to be in good shape. A few bucks now should spare you a lot of aggravation in February. I've never heard of equipment failing at a convenient time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you saying that DA BEARS are going to bring in Tebow??? I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT. IF I SAID WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY HERE...I WOULD BE CROSSING THE LINE. WHAT DON'T DA BEARS UNDERSTAND?? IT IS NOT THE OFFENSE...IT IS THE DEFENSE THAT IS OUT TO LUNCH. I COULD THROW THE BALL WITH THIS OFFENSE...IT IS THE DEFENSE THAT IS NOT SHOWING UP. THESE GUYS NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY WANT TO PLAY "PRO" FOOTBALL OR JUST LIVE IN THEIR COLLEGE ATMOSPHERE WHERE THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION IS TO LEARN HOW TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS IN THE GYM. ONE OTHER THING...THESE COLLEGE GUYS GOT THE TIGER BY THE TAIL AND THEY ARE GETTING ARRESTED FOR FELONY CHARGES...LOOKING FOR THE DALLAS COWBOYS TO PICK THEM UP?? THEY CAN ONLY CARRY SO MANY FELONY GUYS. IS IT GLOBAL WARMING??...OR JUST STUPID PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK AND JUST DO NOT GET IT. I AM WORRIED THAT COLLEGE AND PROS...AND HIGH SCHOOL (FOR THAT MATTER) HAVE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE FRENZY OF "BS"...IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY...AND SOMEBODY IS REAPING IN THE BENEFITS OF THESE KIDS. NORTHWESTERN STUDENTS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND TRIED TO CHANGE THINGS IN COURT...I THINK THEY DID NOT GET A FAVORABLE OUTCOME...THEY WERE TRYING TO OVERCOME BIG MONEY. OK...IT IS A TINDER BOX, AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE MONEY IS RUINING THE SPORT...LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THEY BLIND-SIDED TACKLED THE REF...WTF. IT IS COMING TO A HEAD AND THE NFL AND THE NCAA AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN HIGH SCHOOLS...IT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT...IS THERE A PURE SPORT OUT THERE ANYMORE??? I DO NOT KNOW...MAYBE GOLF...BUT THERE IS A TON OF MONEY THERE ALSO. NOT EVEN CHESS WOULD MAKE THE GRADE...HOW ABOUT PULLED PORK, BARBECUE...I DOUBT THAT IS A PURE SPORT EITHER. IS EVERYTHING CORRUPT??? I AM STARTING TO THINK SO.

The pics and video are great. I'm gonna have go through the old family photos now. I know there are some WH pics in there!

Should do the trick. That looks like they revised the old lap band diet... to a new, improved neck band version.

It looks to be a 1998 with a 48" deck. If it runs, make sure that the temperature gauge doesn't move into the "Red." The front bumper valance is commonly found broken. Pricey to replace but it is just for looks. A deflated tire is no big deal.

Hard to beat the cool factor of a little red round hood... running a set of dual ags in the rear. If you ultimately do decide to go the dualie route... I'm pretty sure, you'll be making your's...the happiest kid on the block.

Scott, I would like a large. Since you won't deal with PayPal, Stevasaurus has graciously agreed to pay you and pick it up for me.

This help you out?

Impromtu bushing driver worn bushing curling them out ... go for the worn side and they peel out like tin foil .....thanks for the tip Jake Starting to work on the the axle flip (Thanks Florida Bob) ....could this be the source of the metal chips?? Should I be worried and look for a new gear about this or run as is?? Keep in mind this Suburban will probalbly not be a worker.... just a show piece

Welcome aboard the Red Square "Box" Train! lol thats deep right there.

Welcome aboard.

Nice looking

I am really glad I found you guys , in the short time I have been on here I have found all kinds of info and cool stuff

Glad you found us.

As Craig has said, a few current photos and a bit of information and they will find a new home. It is cool to have vintage photos and a lot of history on the . That won't add much economic value, but it makes them more interesting to the buyer. Presuming the photos are of both tractors, they are both RJs. If that big headlight resulted in a big hole being cut in the front of the hood it would detract from the value, a good hood to replace it would run $100 or more. If that is the case you may have trouble getting $ 300, wrong engine, wrong steering wheel and a cut hood is a lot to get beyond. Go ahead and post adds for both of them in the for sale section and state a price OBO and see what kind of interest you generate; too far for me to drive or I would be interested in both.

That would be Jake Kuhn. Send him a PM and he may be able to help you out.

23 x10.5 x 12's mounted on wide rims. Mike....... I like the looks of those too, what brand are they? Carlisle All Trail I think. Carlisle Field Trax look similar.

It needs a new seat but overall it's in good shape for its age. Here was how my Suburban 550 looked when I sold it.

Mig is the way to go, arc is good for thicker material. If the metal is to thin or burns through you can stitch weld .

If you start a new topic here under the "Wanted" heading you may have better luck.

Brian: Dual wheels may even make your tractor safer for your son . . . also consider adding some weight to the front to prevent 'wheelies': There are two common kinds of spacers I've seen that people can make - (1) a 12" dia 2" wide metal ring between the wheels held on with four carriage bolts in the wheels (a plastic 5 gal bucket can be used, but weak). (2) a 6" square metal frame, 4" high with four tubes welded in corners for the wheel bolts. If you search old posts here on Red Square you should find several examples and details for making of each of these. There was a spacer on eBay a few months ago by a guy in Bourbon, IN that makes them, (#321381519761, seller; 1965Dodge2013 ). Good Luck

656 -1966 Lawn & Garden Tractor --656 -- Trans 4-Speed --Engine Tecumseh HH60-105013A 6= 6 hp 5= electric start 6= 1966 A 7 or 8hp Kohler will also bolt right in there if you aren't worried about keeping it original

Calendar cover pic! Chris in Florida.

Yes sir, I can't wait until Next week when they start Conference play. There will be some head banging for sure. Kind of scary this week because my picks have already been posted. I'm gonna take the following teams. Not my fault if they look familiar. Rutgers, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Bowling Green, Indiana, West Virgina, IOWA, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin and Notre Dame. You have to say the kid from Toledo did a decent job!!! As always, Go Hawkeyes!!!!!

jimkemp Nice looking 656. There are still a few HH60`s around if you would like to keep that way. It looks like it is all there. I Have the bottom pan so if you would like to have it made up can send picks of the size and length. Just so you know the 65`s and 66`s that I have seen the seat is white in the middle. This is what I have seen. My 606 that I had was white. Enjoy the ride. Gary B....

I'm just sitting here thinking about those days John. No Dramamine, just a trash can strapped to my chair in front of the console. That was just the first couple of miles as we cruised out the Chesapeake. Then once we were on the open seas, no more seasickness. Never been even a bit queasy again on a ship. Hope you have a great trip, uh I mean great cruise.

So this is going to happen too... I'll try to update with pictures once I start putting parts back together. Also trying to track down a snowblower for a D series is proving to be difficult.

With these picks obviously one week is all I can stand at the top. Rutgers, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Bowling Green, Indiana, West Virgina, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Notre Dame

It really does sound like a great cruise. John, would sure like to see some pictures...the east coast is simply gorgeous up that way.

Managed a little shop time this weekend and while waiting for the motor to come back from the machine shop decided to get started on the 5010 tranny. Things looked well inside but a few of the 1519 bearings were hard to turn (gritty) and the 1502 bearings had a bit of slop so it seemed. Theses two bearings seem to have the same id/od so why are they different? Would it be wise just to replace them all? The axels are scored so will have to get some new outer bronze bushings and flip the axels after drilling new roll pin holes. I also didn't realize it untill I had it apart that the diff. also rides on bronze on the inboard sides and they are fairly grooved. I would guess the bronze sleeves can be replaced but what about the the stub of the axel tube that they ride on? Wat is the best way to get these sleeves out? If anybody has a favorite source for these bearings & bushings let me know please. Also looks like I will have to get a blind hole bearing puller so if someone has one that they like/works let me know...other than 'saurus's method of ruining a perfectly good wood chisel and grinding on.....what are they called....um um umum .....oh.. carriage bolt..... ‌@stevasaurus

You may also consider a ATV tire with sum lugs might be a better year round alternative to a more aggressive tire

These are the best LEDs I have found for use with the 5xi. Very bright and great coverage. I can easily mow my lawn in the dark. Do not use the 194/168 LEDs in the dash for indicator lights unless you are prepared to modify your wiring harness with large parallel load resistors. BTW... the red taillights are actually a nice bright red in person--my camera on the phone did not deal with the lighting properly. They don't look too bright or pink at all. These are available at any Advance Auto, Auto Value, or Carquest--probably other places too. I bought mine at Advance

You say...makes you froggy?

@WHX4 There are several products out there like this, but I would suggest using glazing putty rather than the high build primer. The putty takes about a 1/2 hour to dry, and then you can immediately sand it smooth. Higher quality repairs, and much faster process than what you're planning. Also, I would suggest doing the sand blasting, ultra sonic, then lightly sand blast again. The "brownish" you're seeing is rust forming on the surface. It'll eventually work its way back out in about three years after the restore. I would do the last sandblast, spray them off with air, wipe down with Preps-All, and get them lightly into primer in about 15 minutes time. Then use the glazing putty to fill any small imperfections. That way the rust is gone for good, and the surface is smooth and ready for paint. Just a suggestion. ttps://advanceautopaint.com/shop/usc-red-glazing-putty/ My RJ rims started out like this: And ended up looking like this. That is the same rim and tire as above.