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OK, so I picked up a plow for my C-175 off CL, guy wanted $60 for it . (the guy said "hey you want that old snowblower attachment too?") tch... duh, free? c'mon! anyway, I decided to attach the plow and push some dirt around just for fun . That's when I found out that steering, controlling the height of the blade, and speed of the tractor (forward/reverse) was a challenge to say the least... Of course with the Sundstrand hydro, the available pedal mod is zilch. I thought about looking for a different Horse, but I like this one. so being a machinist, I made this... I took it for a test ride last night and it works great! As it stands, I was using both pedals to control the speed, the brake pedal moves the lever back toward the neutral position to slow the tractor down in either direction. I was looking at using springs for return to neutral, but it was pretty easy to just use the pedals. I think the rear PTO belt should clear too. Total out of pocket cost ~$42.00 for the pedal and Heim links. The rest, well I work in a shop, lol The only thing I regret is cutting original sheet metal... . there are a few of those belt guards available, so I could grab one just in case

Just have a few minor things left to do and then onto the 42" SD deck. A few of the changes I made to simplify things include eliminating the rubber motor mounts and the separate brake pedal. The clutch pedal is also the brake like the older models are set up. I noticed that the lift handle on my C is too far back and sticks out so far that it rubs against my leg and forces me to hold my leg at an unconformable angle. I would really like to swap out the steering tower for the simpler and narrower older style like my 857 has. I think it looks better too. Sometimes engineers should leave well enough alone.

Naw, I can't make fenders , Dennis, they are stock from Northern Tool, but I can bend up belt guards and covers , etc. on my cheapie Harbor Freight metal break. I made the hood for the "FrankenPanzer" in the bottom picture. The top picture has the home made belt cover on a tractor that started out as a Commando 8, I had some round hoods and a couple fuel tanks, so I changed the Commando over to look like a 753 or 854 type tractor. An English Wheel is still on my wish list, lol.

Been working on my "jalopy" pretty hard the last couple weeks, It was my 657 that I flipped the frame upside down. It is still all original WH, except the sheet metal and the seat. Same rear end, frame, front axle, steering and engine. It's a centrifugal clutch now and the belt is routed under the floor pan. It's really working great, took it for a 4 mile ride the other night up along the back road by the creek. It's name is "Old Shep", lol It looks more and more like a little truck every day , so I'm building a stake body bed on the back of it now.

C'mon now... he did make it one night.

Well I couldn't help it. Project has Begun! I'm going to just start off by getting it back to a roller frame again and then it may sit for a while or I may build the rest off of there. I have a rebuilt trans sitting here for it already. And I can borrow a set of tires that were going to be used on the 59, because that project is going pretty slow. I may start blasting parts today.

Hi Craig and Steve and Mike and ever one else. I am getting this from a R/S member here hopefully he will reply. Well here she is. I think next week I will be getting this 607. For the members who are not familiar about this little tractor I have been looking for over 2 years for this one. I still think it`s because of the recoil start? I would say very rare. I have only seen 2 and one was a basket case the other 1 had a line on this already. I think most opted for the 657 which is electric start. I seen lots of those and the same for 65/66`s I had a 606 until this spring but still not a 607. So this completes the series for me. From what I under stand it was dealer stock so it has a few Minor issues like decals and the seat which I have. And the engine is a 7 hp snow blower engine. I will put in the Commando 6 engine and make it look pretty. Sounds like Terry will be getting a phone call soon. This all stared years ago with a 1257 Hence T1257. I will do a complete video of what I will be doing to this tractor. I hope you enjoy the picks.

Thanks, Dennis , that is a nice compliment, much appreciated ! I try not to be hoggish when I sell something, because I hate to spend a dam fortune on that kind of stuff myself, lol ! I always wanted to find a 1 inch muffler somewhere like these for a Kohler , and no luck, so I thought I'd see if I could cobble up something myself, the first ones looked like hell, but gradually they improved once I got the hang of it. If I get flooded with orders, it will take a couple weeks, sorry 'bout that, and I hate making people wait for their stuff, but we all have to take care of our other day to day duties, too.

Sounds like you you guys were handed some lemons. It's kind of funny how different people - and perhaps different regions - view things differently. Until I went to my first WH show in 2000 I had never been to a tractor show where guys were just cruising around. And I used to go to a LOT of them. There was always the occasional tractor moving from one activity to another, but other than the parade, plowing, or pulling they all just sat there stationary. Guys meandered and talked. Lots of old timers sat in lawnchairs next to their machines. Nobody had a tent or canopy. When I saw constant driving around at biglerville it struck me as odd. It was just implied that the shows in my part of illinois were for walking. I've seen one backflip and a lot of close calls at the big show. One young kid ran over my right foot on a suburban. Seems like a matter of time... I have more fun walking anyway. But I'm a talker, so... Make lemonade, steve

As far as Ag's on the front. Many tires will have embossed on the sidewall the direction they should go.These Carlisle Tru Powers have an arrow and you can see they want them on normally for traction end (Rear) and reversed for rolling (Front) People keep asking me why I have the Ag's reversed on the front and this is why. They work rather well too!

MICHIGAN "GO BLUE" TCU MICHIGAN ST ILLINOIS IOWA MARYLAND RUTGERS STANFORD PENN ST. NEBRASKA INDIANA ALABAMA NOTRE DAME MARSHALL OHIO ST

thanks for the help everyone, I've found some good videos now and thank you west_ca-(file mod) for the write up, always good to learn the terminology. i've also downloaded the brinly manual. callum

I bought a cheap 3/4" socket set from harbor freight. All the sockets and extensions are used to drive in bearings. The ratchet is used as a persuader bar or to keep un-savory types out of the garage!

Just take a punch and tap out the old bearing sleeve...start the new one in from the out side...use a piece of 2 x 4 and tap squarely until it is in...use a punch or arbor to get the bearing to flush with outside of case if it is a cap bearing...and indented about 1/8" if you need to place a seal. Sometimes, the right 1/2" drive socket inverted on an extension will work as an arbor.

I like that look. I did it with my 1054 (front and rears) but went with silver instead of white. Mike........ Final pics on the tractor... Mike............

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Hello, fellas, Thanks for liking my stacks. This is how I make them, they are good and heavy duty and should last for years. I was welding them together, but lately I figured out how to crimp them together and they look much nicer now, like the one in the last photo. It takes me about 2 hours to build one from scratch and the materials cost me between 10 and 12 bucks, depends on where I can buy stuff. I ask 30 dollars plus shipping ( usually 8 dollars more ) when I sell them through the mail. Thanks again for your interest , much appreciated ! I don't always have them made and on hand, I work in spurts, LOL It's just a hobby, not a job, but I like helping out with your tractors whenever and as soon as I can. I make reproduction Wheel Horse cigarette lighters and hood screws for round hood tractors at times, too. Thanks for looking, I am usually on Facebook at Wheel Horse Junkies more than I'm on Red Square, its much easier to get ahold of me there.

I thought i would post you sum motivation!!! Pic is from last years M&G

Hi All, Just wanted to introduce myself and my newly acquired 1990 Toro Wheel Horse 512-D (well almost, I pick it up in a couple of weeks!) I've been researching these for some time and managed to find one in excellent condition. From what I have read these were only supposed to have been sold in Europe, but apparently they must have also been offered in Australia too. I also noticed it seems to have the seat option with arm rests... not sure if this is a retrofit or an additional option, maybe someone on the forum knows? Anyway looking forward to learning a few things on here and getting to know a few people! Bliksem

So i found an RJ to restore. Except I cant figure out exactly what it is, here are some pics. I have not seen any others with the choke and throttle pulls on hood like this...i know its not a 35 thats all i know though lol. It came with a seized up k91 which i think would be the original engine, I tore it down, the connecting rod was seized to crank shaft so i will see if i can get new rod and have a friend measure crank to see if he can regrind it...Excited about this project so any help would be great!

I have been fighting this problem for a little while now. My two piece tank leaks and i have tried welding the crack in the bottom of it but it did not come out very well i'm thinking about trying again but this time using a tig welder instead of a mig I know its been done before

the 1 piece tanks seem to be pretty common. The only difference you will notice is they have a dash plate that bolts in rather than built into the tank like the newer ones. And I usually see them for around $20-50 in nice shape

The brake return spring is there and functioning properly. I have a hunch that there is just a stuck or dirty valve. So I drained the hydro oil and re-filled with some high detergent Castrol GTX 10W-30. I used the tractor for a couple hours and the forward speed is steadily getting faster. It is now at about 2/3 the expected speed--up from about 1/3. I'm going to run this oil in the trans for about 10 hours and then drain it and put a fresh filter on with Mobil 1. Whatever is causing the problem seems to be freeing up / cleaning out. I hesitate to actually flush a hydro with anything other than clean oil.

Brian, I use a right angle grinder with a few different types of wire brushes to remove wheel paint. Don't forget to wear your safety glasses as sometimes a bristle will come loose and be thrown off the brush. You don't want one of those things hitting you in the eye.

Ever considered setting up an E-tank?

Wagga Wagga, I have to visit ^ Just to say " Wagga Wagga is cool ! I hope they sell shirts saying

This NOS was an Ebay find for $30.00. I had a heck of a time finding a shop that would turn the crank down for anything near a reasonable price. Finally I was told about a small shop not too far from here. I took the crank in and he wasn't sure he could do one that small on his machine but was willing to give it a shot. He was successful getting it .010 under and I'm good to go.

Time to get them picks in, once the games begin your just out of luck!!! Lars, you getting in or what???

The 1st and 2nd pick was the day I got it home. I could not even wheel this tractor because the rear was frozen. The second set is when I was selling it this spring.

I really like the look of through the hood on the Panzer.

You Yankees are so lucky. no deals like that in north Carolina. There are 2 c160s on Craig's right now. $1300 and $1600. They both look nice and one has a tiller and a cultivator. Hours unknown. I bought a non running parts tractor for $275. Think I'm gonna take a vacation rent a giant u-haul and troll the rust belt for wheelhorses.

looks really good, do those ones tip? callum

I have a 90 312-h and went through this because partstree shows the 7473,i put one on from my stash and she didn't fit,i ended up getting one from tsc but cant remember the length off hand

Exceptional piece, If mine I wouldnt touch it. Best of luck and thanks for sharing. Glenn

P.S. > they sound as good as, if not better than, any store bought muffler, they are not loud - about the same as a stock one. I've been painting them with High Temp Rustoleum stove and grille paint and it seems to be holding up good, otherwise they would be just bare metal and would rust if left out in the damp. They are standard 1 inch pipe threads, the coupler can be changed that is on the bottom if you need to reduce it up or down to another size by getting another coupler at your hardware store. I only make them this one size.

Sprocket, that is excellent back ground. I have been helping Gary look for a 607 for most of this year now and they are rare for finding at shows. Terry M has a 606 that is to die for...he brought it to the LaSueur show last weekend. (pictures of that are in the LaSueur show thread down in shows on the main page). I'm going to try to put a pic of Terry's horse in here.

Thanks Bob, to be fair I had fallen behind with updating this, so your not all to blame Thanks Roadapples, I'm going to need good attention to detail as this is how she looked at the end of today! I think this may of had something to do with it

Here is an option to fix that axle. The Wheel Horse RJ, Suburban and the first 3 speed uni-drives had 1/4" roll pins in their axles that held on the axle gears. You could drill a 1/4" hole and get a roll pin for your 1 1/8" axle.

All the Kohler 8 thru 16 hp carburetor bowls are the same. There should be a round seal to go into the groove, and an anti-splash seal to go over that. All carburetor kits whether for Carter or Walbro carbs are the same. Just ask your supplier for a standard carburetor kit. They include both seals. And yes, a sooty plug usually indicates a "rich" condition.

Welcome to Red-Square . Nice tractor , congratulations .

Lots of good Youtube videos on the subject. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+set+up+a+single+bottom+plow

I don't plan on bringing any tractors either from now on. I really don't even look around at any exhibits as most the same as always. I go just to see the guys and what's for sale in the vendor section. Slowly but surely my tractor flame is going out anyway. Might be a fire sale soon.

any idea on the cost of the stacks ? Or is it if you have to ask you can't afford it. Or , but Honey I really need it for Wheel Horse , it is a replacement part.

there is starring Nigel, Norman(stormin), Chris(Chris sutton) and of course Ian

The old deck is pretty quiet, just getting soft in one spot so I decided to get this deck and swap a few bits around. For the price, I couldn't turn it down! I'll most likely be selling the old deck since the spindles are good and I don't need it. Someone could. I am glad I put the swept forward axle on, think with the different gauge wheels on it may not fit! Here is what it looks like.

I picked up a new 48-inch deck today. It has never seen grass! The downfall is that it is for a 270 series machine, but, it has all the mounting holes that my current deck uses so it looks like I just have to swap pulleys and the attachamattic system to the new deck and I'm set.

club and 608 i would like to ask all of you with an onan twin cylinder to join the yahoo onan club. ( google it ) just say you want to join to learn how to work on your onan engine. the site has the P series parts and service manuals, as well as most of the other twin cylinder engines. then you can learn how to do it correctly. ( set valves, and torque ) thank you. boomer ( the used onan engine parts guy,also NOS and new )

Ok I'm not much for taking pictures till it's to late, but I will do the best I can with what I have of the build, to start I told my oldest son to pick a tractor from about 10 I had lined up for him out back, well he picked the only black hood I had at the time, a 81 C-85 8 speed, it was very ruff, I tried to talk him out of that one, but he had his mind set so off to work HE went, I told him to tear it completely apart, well the frame was almost rusted in half, so we swapped frames, the engine would not turn over, steering wheel was broke off, the spindles would not turn in the axle, like I said it was ruff, I paid $25 for it, the hood had very deep pits, I could go on for days how bad it was but, I'll get on with a short write up on the build. After getting it torn apart, we had to gather all the parts needed for the rebuild, we pulled a frame and front axle from a C-141 hydro I had, he wanted the old style fenders so they came off a C-81, we picked up a overhauled engine from a friend for $40 complete , a 14hp Kohler from a C-141, a friend owed me a favor and I was short on time during the build up of this tractor, so I sent all the big stuff to him to be sand blasted, got everything back, did the bump work on the tins, and put a coat of epoxy primer on most everything, then the sheet metal got at least 2 coats of high build fill epoxy primer, and block sanded, the hood and fenders got another 2 coats of primer to make them smooooth, we sanded all the chassis parts and prepped for paint, he liked the black engines in the black hoods and wanted the rolling chassis to be all black, so it is, the rest is standard red, with semi gloss on the console tins and top of the hood, he only wanted it to drive around and pull things, so we left off all the lift assembly, and used a left side cover off a hydro tractor with hyd. lift so no handle hole to deal with, It's nice having my own junk yard to pick parts out of we found most everything to build it right here, minus the new parts, he also wanted big and little tires so we used front rims off a 70 raider, the rears are 8.5" wide rims off a cub, the offset is not right we had to move the hubs on the axles out about 1/4" so the 10.5 tires didn't rub the gas tank support, we put a few dollars in stainless bolts to trim it out, built the wiring harness from a few diff. tractors just pulled the connectors apart and used what wires we wanted, he also wanted tail lights so we picked up a set of trailer marker lights, it took about 6 weeks of nights and weekend to build this, oh did I say I built another at the same time for my other son??? another $25 tractor a B-100 hydro, more on that one later, here is a few pictures of the build. What we started with, $25 pile My son starting the tear down, lots of skinned knuckles on this job. chassis painted and going back together back on it's feet again prepped and ready to paint the red, yes parts for both tractors are hanging there, and yes this tractor was for the most part built in the driveway, all of it was painted outside. all done. I picked up a very cool steering wheel from Perry on the site off a bolens it's a 3 spoke leather wrapped wheel, that is on it now, and Glenn Pettit lives near me so the nice guy he is took the center cap and put a WH logo in it and filled it with clear epoxy, looks very cool on the tractor, we are thinking about putting a forward swept axle under this next summer, I have a couple floating around, the big long nose is begging for it, but still keep skinny tires on it, we will see. Oh ya this is the other tractor I built at the same time for my youngest, he was only 8 at the time, so I built a hydro so he could drive it with out needing to reach the pedals, it's a 74 B-100 hydro, butI put a running 8hp I had in it to save time on the build.

If you're talking about the "Dial-a-height" adjuster and if Kelly doesn't have the parts, they are still available OEM...... Duff :banghead: