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This is, of course, pure speculation... but I think in my case the guy was dabbling in the pharmaceuticals. I have personal experience with Alzheimers and Dementia having taken care of afflicted family members. It is simply heartbreaking. My crazy C-141 guy acted and sounded more like he was high on something. His thought process was too focused on being an a$$hole--almost like he had sudden courage. When I spoke with him 2 hours before I went to his house he was cordial and very accomodating. It's like someone flipped a switch in his brain. The main reason I feel this way is that through all of this, he knew I was coming, knew I was at his house, and knew who I was afterwards. My experience with A and D, are that yes, something can flip in their brain and their personalities can suddenly change, but in the process they lose some details about reality. This guy knew who I was and why I was there. Don't worry, I won't quit my day job. I'm not a doctor (and don't pretend to be). Just a gut feeling.

Well, hi all, Wonderful resource here! I'm Marc from Georgia USA. Letting y'all perhaps rejoice in the likelihood that a 1980 black hood will be restored. I've done everything to the house, yard and cars and have time on my hands. An old friend (92) gave me this 125 he had sinking in his yard. Said he rode it there two years ago - not likely. His mind's really clear, otherwise. WWII Lexington - Hellcats. OK, I dragged the poor thing onto a trailer with a come-along. Wanted to get her to run to see if she was worth restoring, although I kinda know this is going to be a labor of love. I grew up with a Simplicity 707 and love the old tractors. So... Pulled the frozen 42" deck which can use a minor weld on top and some bearing refreshing. One of the pulleys ahead of it from the PTO, the return, is frozen... Two rear tubes and she rolls, a coil to solve the open primary, repaired ignition switch, battery, bypassed open ammeter, drained and cleaned tank, repaired fuel pump, pulled a piece of rust from the main jet, filed points - starts! Runs around the yard like a banshee and charges. Starter sounds hellish, though. Sheet metal over the head missing... Front left wheel/tire looks like it's off a Ranger - tall and narrow. Front right looks original. Bad Hi/Lo so pulled the trans and find the Hi/Lo fork separated and rattling. Oil is caramel colored but not so water filled to do damage - good bearings and only some wear on the inner Hi gear. Good news if the parts come in so it's now hurry-up and wait. Had loads of fun pulling those hubs. The first one the puller actually snapped - even with heat - so I'm in the market on that one. Second came off easily enough. I'll put her together and will start on the deck. If I can cut grass, it will be time to tear her apart for a full restoration - something I have never done before - more a mechanic than a restorer. If I do a nice enough job, maybe he'll give me the older one with the 8HP Briggs. There, you have it! I'll be spending plenty of time here gaining knowledge. The youtube vids on trans assembly from Stevesaurus will serve me greatly, thanks! Here's the going-home pic. Right now, she's at the end of the driveway covered and the trans is in pieces on the bench.

Ok I just bought a 1967 877 for my son and I too retore... I have no idea where to start? Any pics or information would be greatly appreciated ., It has the 8 horse kohler and mowing deck runs great still

I believe gearing hasn't changed since 1960, and depending on the year the 312 may have had the 1in axles too. Its not true in all cases but i think the 300 series were mostly 1" axles and the 400 and up series favored the 1 1/8" But (and here's the kicker) if the transmission is working fine, dont switch it. Even the "light duty" axles and differential can handle quite a bit of abuse as evident of the many people on here doing heavy duty work with them. You will probably only consistently run into problems if you over weight it, run an FEL, or are doing pulling.

Been thinking of adding some wood to the bed on the rails and came out with this. I think it kinda needs something to sort of raise the body line as the cab is so much taller than the bed.

I just picked up this 1990 Wheel Horse 520-8 and was wondering if it came with the 5073 10 pin limited slip transmission. Also slipped in a picture of my 1969 GT-14.

Just thought I would say HEY ... so we stay high on the listing page!!! The more folks see this the more will come!!!

Yeah.... I didn't think it was a 48 but it doesn't say "Wheel Horse" , only "POND". Here's pics of the deck and plow that came with it. And it has wheel weights.

Here's one of Glens larger diameter, shorter caps. Came in today Glen, thanks!

i would look for a lawn ranger very fun to tinker with and even more fun to mow with and i was impressed how well the dozer blade works on these little guys! But i really haven't had a round hood i didn't like they are all very special and each one tells a story about the people that have owned them over the last 60years

Thank you Bmsgaffer. All the info you have provided has been very helpful. I appreciate your help and thos that assisted me with fixing my 211a. I am sure to have more questions however, i am going to read over the site and get a better understanding of the Wheel Horses. who knows i may become a WH addict lol

Makin a little progress ... finally got the Kohler end finished up ... now before you all have a stroke, my little trim job on the engine tins is really not going to make much difference, with the little this unit works. Mow all day with these tins trimmed, sure, it's gonna get hot, but this one will do a lot more sittin than workin!!! Still haven't got the bumper brackets welded, maybe Wed. Will let you know!!!

Hey Mike, Where'd your dad go? Prairiedoggin!

On the list today for my possible acquisition was a decent little 312-A, and a latecomer--a C-141. Both of these were posted on Craigslist. I will try to keep this brief. Maybe all this was caused by the recent blue moon... I went to look at the 312-A that was supposed to be a "come and get it--I don't want it" transaction (gas to get there, and a minor amount of sweat loading everything). I get there, go through my process of assessing the Horse, do a test drive, and check all functionality. Everything was good, the hours were at a so-so 1150--but it's a Kohler Magnum 12 and I wasn't too concerned. No leaks, no smoke, no problem. I had pre-arranged the deal over the phone and the owner was glad to have me pick it up... so I thought. Suddenly the price went from "can't you load it any faster?" to $400. It had but one attachment, the tiny 37" rear discharge deck. I drove 3 1/2 hours to get to that one. I left without it. Here's where it gets really strange>>> On the way back home I stopped to see a C-141 that popped up on CL late last night. It was equipped with a snowblower, a 42" rear discharge deck and a 48" side discharge deck, extra set of AG tires mounted on rims, chains, weights, and about three of every necessary belt as a spare. I called this morning and pre-arranged a time and a price--only if everything was as advertised. We agreed to $300, and my adrenaline was pumping. I think that's a steal for a clean and working C series--especially one with lots of extra horsey stuff. So I get there and wait for 45 minutes for the owner to come out of his house (he was home, he knew I was there). Pretty creepy. During that time, I gave it the usual inspection. At about the 30 minute mark, and after knocking on every door I could find and pressing every doorbell button... I couldn't take it. He had verbally given me the OK to test things out as much as I wanted (per our phone conversation). So... I pulled the choke and put it at mid-throttle and cranked it up. It started a little hard--but it started--and purred. There were 2 immediately obvious issues: the motor was loose on its mounts (or broken mounts) and the drive belt and pulley were shot and whipping erratically and causing the drive clutch to jitter. The owner actually had to bungee the drive clutch release in the operating position because the shaking was violent enough to pop the clutch release. The oil was new and fresh, and the trans fluid was clean with a new tranny filter. But--the whole bottom half of the engine block, mounts, frame, and snowblower lift arm were covered in black oily sludge. It did not leave a good impression. It looked like he NEVER wiped up anything in the 25+ years he says he's owned it. He never came out of his house. I had a trailer and cash, and was willing to deal with the issues because they are all repairable. $300 for a C-141... I thought is was worth the price of admission. I knocked, dinged, and called him one last time and then drove away. Super creepy... I got about a mile away from his house, and he called my cell phone. The conversation went something like this... "Hey, are you the guy with the red truck?...Yes...Well, you just left my house...Yes, I know, I was there for 45 minutes and despite all my efforts to contact you, you never came out of your house..." Then it took a very unexpected turn. The next thing he actually said to me was, "You have some kind of balls to show up at someone's house and start his tractor and drive it around his yard... some kind of balls, buddy!" Umm, I was literally speechless. This guy knew everything about our arranged meeting and what I intended to do once I arrived to check out the tractor. He knew I was there, but completely avoided me. So, I left... what else could I do? I won't get into the rest of the ensuing conversation, but let's just say... I politely declined... ...And drove like a bat out of hell away from Wheel Horse Deliverance. Two nice finds, zero horsies on the trailer... crazy people everywhere! And a weird guy ("It puts the lotion on the skin" kind of weird) who couldn't come out of his house to take a handful of cash. I hope the next horse finding expedition turns out much better. WOW!

While it may be a bit early for Brrly's annual Big 10 football thread, it is never too early to set the tone..

Always glad to hear about a father and son project. The first place to start is to see what you are starting with. Get it running (if it isn't) and see how strong the transmission is. We have lots of restoration threads on this site and plenty of folks that can and will help along the way. Be very methodical when you disassemble and as "kudzu3" said take lots of step by step photos. Download the manual from our Manuals section and label parts as you go along using the numbers and names from the manual. Use storage containers and put labels on them too. Share progress reports and photos as you go along and best wishes.

Very true, thanks gulftane. So is the address in your phone yet

Take lots of pictures...lots of pictures, close ups of everything, how it comes apart, how it goes together, then start taking it apart one piece at a time. The good folks here will guide you through. Good luck.

I sold an 8 x 10 enclosed aluminum trailer on Craigs list, one guy comes over to look at it and measures the width with a tape he brought - says the inside of the box isn't 8 ft wide - told him 8 ft was from outside wheel well to outside wheel well ....long story short he gets a real quick attitude and starts accusing me of trying to rip people off, false advertisement ....blah blah blah - I pointed out the manufactures paperwork, still hanging in the trailer , that this is what is classified as an 8 x 10 trailer - if it was 8 ft in the box it would be 10ft going up the road ....didn't matter he's still determined he's gonna throw a fit ......this guy had me nervous ....I politely told him I want you to leave ....RIGHT NOW ...surprisingly to me he did - threw his temper tantrum the whole way down the yard and out the D-way . I hate to say it and it's a shame, but if I sell anything else I think Mr Ruger is going to be real close by.

Took a few pics of the day before the pageant begins. Place is about half full. Left to go home and followed a large dark cloud. Got home in the nick of time before a hail storm hit. Got a trailer shot with the first load. Picked up some tri ribs from the tire guy interesting mower Massey Jitney WOOF!!!!!! Hail storm that missed the show but not my house!

Thanks for the photos....hope there will be more later. The "interesting mower" is an articulating BOLENS brand and maybe model Estate Keeper or Grounds Keeper...might be wrong on that. My wife wants it!

Hal came to my house after work yesterday and we got that pulley off with a three prong puller. Hopefully we will have the deck back together soon and have him mowing on the old Blackhood again. Then we will be building him a Hydro Wheel Horse to mow with now that he is retired. After the hydro tractor is working, the Blackhood will be his dedicated trailer pulling tractor. At least thats the plan so far.

I have not been on here in a while. I got a 1984 C125 from a good friend of mine , Van aka Wheel- N -It around here. I don't have half the no how that Van has when it comes to these gems. I noticed my mower was not mowing evenly and then noticed the right blade was not rotating ( grease fitting not spinning). I cut off the engine and manually turned the blade (one on the right near the discharge) and it was not spinning freely and squeaked. Is this a major replacement? I guess I need to replace the spindle and the belt at the same time. Anyone know the part numbers or any other important information to fix this? Thanks, Hal

These are on sale 8/21 - 8/23 for $297

Im not familiar with these tractors but I think its looking really good and that Honda looks great on it! I didn't know what the heck you were referring too at first when you kept mentioning the bonnet but it became clear the more I read, ive never heard that before. Do you guys call that series of the "round bonnets" like we call them the "round hoods" on this side of the pond? Anyway its coming along great keep up the good work

Hi, the tyres are made by Duro, on the invoice they are called "400-8 4PR Duro HF257 Three Rib Implement" they cost me £18.99 ( $29.67) each and total of £51.58 ($80.59) including VAT and postage from an online UK shop called Tyre-Rite. I'm not sure if they ship internationally but I'm sure using the part code and name you can get a local tyre shop to get them in. thanks, callum

Hello. So today i thought i would share a few bits and pieces. So i had put my bonnet on to take pictures for you all. i don't do this often and i don't keep the bonnet on as i need to take off the Honda air box and air intake bits and pieces if i want the bonnet on and then put it back when i want to run it so my progress will be little until my parts arrive which should be the 10th to the 20th (they are coming from america). i also have a few option regarding my fuel tank, mounting places etc and what tank to use. so its all good progress and i'm nearly there just a few bits to work out first and waiting for bits. i am on holiday from the 15th to the 22nd so hopefully it comes before then, but obviously i wont be able to do any work while i'm away. But i think it looks very nice with the bonnet on and i'm excited to get it more complete. For reference the rocker cover does not stick out the bonnet its nice and set back just the pictures make it look like it. (In these pictures there was no fuel tank attached aswel) James

Sometimes I approach my Horse hunting like an NFL General Manager does a draft... Best available when it's my turn. You can almost always sell it again if it was good enough to buy in the first place, if you find you'd rather go in a different direction.

That system uses a spring to engage the blades. It could the that the spring has got weak,or someone has used the wrong spring.

Russ- Funny you say that because I have been seriously considering have a woodworker carve something in the wood.

Hey now...we at should thank him for inventing the internet.

Don't know what to make of that, we will have to have Al Gore look into it! Could be another Nobel Prize in it for him.

I had heard a rumor that Michigan was trying to move to the MAC Conference. The thought behind it was to not see such an upsidedown score each time they lost. Not sure how true that is, but it sure is funny.

Bingo!!!! I swapped the pulleys and reran the belt. Now she is working like she should. You guys are awesome. Thank you guys foreverything and i hope the videos and diagrams can help someone else down the road.

I don't know who designed that belt drive arrangement, but after seeing that pic, they need to be committed!

I modified the blast cabinet and now need longer gloves. It will allow me to swap them from outside the cabinet. I am too stiff and body too wore out to be climbing into a blast cabinet. Even if seldom. Likely a week from getting cabinet going and still with temps in upper 80's so I continued working on tires and rims. My local Mavis shop is very customer friendly. I dropped tires, tubes and rims off and picked them up on my way home. some pics with rear 15 inch tired to show set and reference size wise. Then a couple pics next to GT14 with turfs. It can be seen that the 18x8.5-8 V61 Vredsteins will be adding some stance and attitude:-) or Altitude anyway....as they look like about 1.5 inches taller than turfs. The tractor is actually lifted off ground a bit while Vredsteins are on ground. I mentioned in a another thread how great Miller tire was in dealing with. Probably going to pull those front runs next, wet blast, prime, paint and drop by Mavis for another set of fronts for my working GT14. Hopefully I can have the extra set on the tractor by Sunday afternoon. Got to head to Cleveland Friday so part of my week is shot.

OMG...3 generations of Shynons??? " BTW, Which one's Pink??" "Have a cigar...you're going to go far."..................Where is your Dad??

OK...so it is only 4...it is still 3 more then anyone else. Bob is the expert on these guys...you are lucky to have him as close as he is. Pick his brain if you need to...he is excellent people.

yes it is oil filled, but don't worry, the filler and drain plug are easy to get to. even if they weren't i would only have to undo 4 bolts to get it off and take of the two belts ( or belt and chain not decided yet) thanks for bringing that up though! all to easy to forget haha. thanks for the kind works james!

There is value in taking them all in one deal for seller as well. its a good deal. Knock off 2-300 for convenience of seller not having to deal with Craig's list crazies and it's a smoking deal.

I will be there Friday night or Saturday morning. Can't afford to take Friday off with the new job and kid on the way!

Thanks guys! I will give that a shot.

I like the 1" rule of thumb...try that first. You don't want it so tight as to mess up your pulley bearings over time. BTW...Welcome to Red Square.

Here is a link to the manuals http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/4778-tractor-2000-16-38hxl-lawn-tractor-da-om-ipl-wiringpdf/ Garry

You take that thing back to Van right now and make him fix it! He's a snake in the grass that Van Bennett is. LOL!!!!

I clear coated the inside of the doors and kick panels. Installed seat belts and door weatherstipping. I also changed the outter door handles. Coming along...

That turned out great!!! Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

It's worth it just to get your 520 back.

hi all, while I'm getting my stuff together for the transaxle i am starting work on the front hub modification, the trip rib tyres came today they are size 4.00x8. I also wrapped the exhaust, I used fibreglass wrap so i was all itchy after! thanks for looking, callum

After looking for a larger used Cabinet Blaster for a few months I decided to build one. I did some research reading through several builds on the net, and looking at manufactured models. My cabinet work area is 48"w x32"H x 39"D and takes some design features from units manufactured by TP Tools. A lot of my designs start with available scrap and I had a lot of 3/4" scrap plywood, and a pile of scrap 18-20 gauge sheet metal to work with. Here my cabinet lined with sheet metal. I'm going with a front load design because loosing shop wall space for a side door opening was not a good option. Here the cabinet side view. I suspect I may add a side door for long items some day.I used contact cement to attach the sheet metal to the plywood. Used 2 coats on the wood and one coat on the metal which worked very well. I cut all the sheet metal with an abrasive blade in my table saw. The seams are sealed with silicone caulk. The cabinet hopper has a 1: steel pipe fitting in the bottom to attach the media siphon valve The Tacoma company sells an upgrade kit for Harbor Freight cabinets. I purchased it and it has a foot air valve, media siphon valve, air regulator and blast gun. Dave at Tacoma was really good to talk to and helped size the blast gun nozzle and orifice in the media valve to my compressor. I'm getting excited to try this out! The front load door is my last challenge,