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I was looking for a small tractor with FEL and came across this honey hole,only interested in the D-160 but offered to buy them all to help out the owners son,father is not well,only thing I know is the D-160 (350 hrs on tractor)was re-powered a year ago with Wisconsin engine,no specs on that,supposedly they all run,414-8 has a belly mower so gents judging by the pics what's a decent price for all three tractors. D-160 W/FEL 416-8 414-8

My 42" SD was in pretty good shape, and I would like to keep it that way. Knowing that I am not going to hose it off after every use, I figured I needed to take some measures in protecting the bottom so it will last as long as possible. When I started this project last fall, I was planning to replace all the hardware with stainless. I was also planning to remove all of the spindles and disassemble them for inspection, but other priorities came about and I put it off until I blew up my 876 in June (that's another story) and I had to get another mower back in service.I used a POR15 "starter kit" to seal the bottom of the deck I also put some on the top where I noticed rust from where grass collected under the belt guards. POR15 is advertised as a sealer that can be applied directly over rust, and does not need a primer to adhere properly. I don't have a sand blaster, so something that I could get clean enough with an angle grinder and garden hose was important. It is kind of expensive, but I figured out that there is a starter kit that is under 25 bucks, and is advertised to cover 6 ft^2. It was enough to do 1 deck and probably enough to do aa 32" or a push mower). The steps I took were:1. Remove all caked on grass with a screw driver/ putty knife2. Remove everything that bolts to the deck so bolt heads are not coated. (I didn't remove the spindles, because I ran out of time, and the outside of my spindles looked pretty beat up, and i didn't want to damage them by removing)3. Use angle grinder w/ wire brush to remove any loose rust4. Use POR15 marine clean to clean the bottom of the deck. I diluted this 4:1 water to cleaner and sprayed it on using a squirt bottle. I let it set for about 15 minutes, then hosed it off. 5. Use POR15 metal prep to treat the clean surface. After letting the deck dry, I used a foam brush to apply the metal ready solution to the surfaces that were going to be coated. I let it dry for 30 to 40 minutes to allow it to etch the surface. The metal developed a white zinc powder on the surface in this time. I hosed it off and let it dry over night. By the time I got back to it 2 days later, the surface had a developed some surface rust, but POR15 likes this, so I just wiped it down with a dry rag, and moved on to coating. 6. Coat the surface with POR15. Don't get this stuff on your skin because it will not come off for several days. It will not come out of clothing. Anyways, I applied with a brush and did 1 heavy coat. I put a second coat on the spots where grass had collected the most. I was very pleased with the results. Time will tell whether or not the coating holds up, but my confidence level is high, and as cheap as it was, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another kit and coat my other decks. Before grass removal of the bottom:After wire brushing/cleaning/hose off:After applying the metal prep, but before hosing it off:After the metal prep was hosed off, and the deck was wiped down with a dry rag: Here is after I finished coating. It isn't pretty, but it will work.

Lol! I know! Right? I guess I'm a little younger and quicker than Bob. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Awright there buckaroo, who you callin' old and slow? All seriousness aside, that's a nice tractor. However, I have never seen a B-100 with a seat safety switch. It's not on the wiring diagram, and of the 4, not 35 B-100's that I have owned, there wasn't one on any of them. Also, lights were optional, so if the previous owner added lights, maybe he also added a safety switch.

I bought a '76 B100 8 speed with 36 RD deck today. Everything works and is complete, except the seat switch was bypassed. The k 241 starts right up with no smoke, and purrs like a kitten. The deck has been well used, repaired, and well used again. I think it's ready for retirement. My plans are for a complete tear down - paint - rebuild. I think this will be my snow plow and yard mule (horse). I like the look of the front of this series more than the 3,4,5 series (and my 520H). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Bingo!!!! I swapped the pulleys and reran the belt. Now she is working like she should. You guys are awesome. Thank you guys foreverything and i hope the videos and diagrams can help someone else down the road.

Boy, if I had a couple of grand laying around, and some welding skills, I bet you could make an awesome piece of equipment with these. http://www.surpluscenter.com/New-Arrivals/COMER-160-1136-853503-RIGID-REAR-TRANSAXLE-13-1523.axd http://www.surpluscenter.com/Power-Transmission/Transaxles/Hydrostatic-Transaxles/HYDROSTAT-BOBCAT-COMER-6678761-890580-FRONT-DRIVE-STEERING-AXLE-9-7655.axd

On the list today for my possible acquisition was a decent little 312-A, and a latecomer--a C-141. Both of these were posted on Craigslist. I will try to keep this brief. Maybe all this was caused by the recent blue moon... I went to look at the 312-A that was supposed to be a "come and get it--I don't want it" transaction (gas to get there, and a minor amount of sweat loading everything). I get there, go through my process of assessing the Horse, do a test drive, and check all functionality. Everything was good, the hours were at a so-so 1150--but it's a Kohler Magnum 12 and I wasn't too concerned. No leaks, no smoke, no problem. I had pre-arranged the deal over the phone and the owner was glad to have me pick it up... so I thought. Suddenly the price went from "can't you load it any faster?" to $400. It had but one attachment, the tiny 37" rear discharge deck. I drove 3 1/2 hours to get to that one. I left without it. Here's where it gets really strange>>> On the way back home I stopped to see a C-141 that popped up on CL late last night. It was equipped with a snowblower, a 42" rear discharge deck and a 48" side discharge deck, extra set of AG tires mounted on rims, chains, weights, and about three of every necessary belt as a spare. I called this morning and pre-arranged a time and a price--only if everything was as advertised. We agreed to $300, and my adrenaline was pumping. I think that's a steal for a clean and working C series--especially one with lots of extra horsey stuff. So I get there and wait for 45 minutes for the owner to come out of his house (he was home, he knew I was there). Pretty creepy. During that time, I gave it the usual inspection. At about the 30 minute mark, and after knocking on every door I could find and pressing every doorbell button... I couldn't take it. He had verbally given me the OK to test things out as much as I wanted (per our phone conversation). So... I pulled the choke and put it at mid-throttle and cranked it up. It started a little hard--but it started--and purred. There were 2 immediately obvious issues: the motor was loose on its mounts (or broken mounts) and the drive belt and pulley were shot and whipping erratically and causing the drive clutch to jitter. The owner actually had to bungee the drive clutch release in the operating position because the shaking was violent enough to pop the clutch release. The oil was new and fresh, and the trans fluid was clean with a new tranny filter. But--the whole bottom half of the engine block, mounts, frame, and snowblower lift arm were covered in black oily sludge. It did not leave a good impression. It looked like he NEVER wiped up anything in the 25+ years he says he's owned it. He never came out of his house. I had a trailer and cash, and was willing to deal with the issues because they are all repairable. $300 for a C-141... I thought is was worth the price of admission. I knocked, dinged, and called him one last time and then drove away. Super creepy... I got about a mile away from his house, and he called my cell phone. The conversation went something like this... "Hey, are you the guy with the red truck?...Yes...Well, you just left my house...Yes, I know, I was there for 45 minutes and despite all my efforts to contact you, you never came out of your house..." Then it took a very unexpected turn. The next thing he actually said to me was, "You have some kind of balls to show up at someone's house and start his tractor and drive it around his yard... some kind of balls, buddy!" Umm, I was literally speechless. This guy knew everything about our arranged meeting and what I intended to do once I arrived to check out the tractor. He knew I was there, but completely avoided me. So, I left... what else could I do? I won't get into the rest of the ensuing conversation, but let's just say... I politely declined... ...And drove like a bat out of hell away from Wheel Horse Deliverance. Two nice finds, zero horsies on the trailer... crazy people everywhere! And a weird guy ("It puts the lotion on the skin" kind of weird) who couldn't come out of his house to take a handful of cash. I hope the next horse finding expedition turns out much better. WOW!

While it may be a bit early for Brrly's annual Big 10 football thread, it is never too early to set the tone..

That deserves a big thumbs up for hanging in there! Glad you got 'er going!

I don't know who designed that belt drive arrangement, but after seeing that pic, they need to be committed!

Watch your beer around those horses, my 310-8 took the liberty of turning my 4 beer acre into a 5 beer acre last week

Collectible or not, $2100 for three decent looking, good running tractors with a FEL is a GREAT price. Round these parts, a complete FEL goes for $1500 or so by itself. If you get that wagon in with everything else thats even sweeter. I don't think WH is very common out on that coast, so you might not have much in the way of "parts tractors" around for sale but there's plenty over here to keep your herd up and running.

In Jersey we also say NEVER AGAIN! I wouldn't give either of those sellers a second thought. Life's too short for that sort of BS. i also won't go more than an hour for a run of the mill horse. It's gotta be perfect to go any further.

60 gal tank, PTO pump, short spray boom allows easy go through and around trees.

Weird! Must be something in the water. Did you have the banjo, or the guitar?

OK...so it is only 4...it is still 3 more then anyone else. Bob is the expert on these guys...you are lucky to have him as close as he is. Pick his brain if you need to...he is excellent people.

Jay, from what I see in the video, it looks like the flat and v-pulleys have been interchanged. Yours looks to have the flat pulley on the bottom and the V pulley above it, opposite the diagram.

The factory original "metal wheels" had the zerk fittings on the outside and were 1.62" hubs, and after '63 the wheels had the zerks on the inside and had 1.5" hubs. The original 1 5/8" wheels not last in areas with salt and rusted quickly, the only replacement wheels after '63 were the 1.5" wheels. (that's why the repro flex hub caps we make are shorter in depth, 1", to easily fit on the 1.62" hubs up to their outside zerk fittings). To me, your zerk-wheel doesn't look standard 'Wheel Horse', I think the zerks were always on the Hub stem (the first original WH front wheels were actually standard wheel barrow wheels). Glen

I purchased this Northern 16 gallon sprayer and fabricated this easy on, easy off support that attaches to the rear "Tach-a-matic" bracket on my D-180. Sure beats pulling a trailer. Haven't connected up the electrical yet, but my plan is to wire in a jack similar to a headphone jack on your iPod for the electrical connection.

Very nice herd - good for you

The advertised price for the tractors all together is $2100,not sure that's a fair or reasonable price,especially here in Oregon. 414-8. $600 416-8. $500 D-160. $1000 the D-160 wasn't originally for sale,noticed it in the background and we agreed on the price over the phone,won't be able to physically check them out for another week or so,know absolutely nothing about WH tractors,retired and looking for a toy as I operated Heavy Equipment years ago in the military,yep mid-late crisis coming on.

Lol! I know! Right? I guess I'm a little younger and quicker than Bob. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have been threatening - and threatening!! to do this to a deck ..... but.... just never got around to it. Well, I think your nicely done write up, and pics is finally gonna prod me to do it! Course it helps that I presently have a 48" torn down completely and ready for paint, so I just think the afternoon I'll go pick up a can. FWIW - the metal prep stuff is almost certainly phosphoric acid and I HAVE to have this stuff in my shop at ALL times what with these old horses having so much rust I use quite a bit of it. Like on this 48" deck, I sand blasted every piece and I then give everything a coating of it. And yes, it will form a white powdery coating and will flash rust. Its not really a rust preventer but it kills any of the existing rust changing it to ---- um, iron phosphate?? (I'm not sure of that!)

Living in Maryland, I can't believe you got that B-100 before RMaynard. I think he has 35 of them now. Nice looking horse ...and that is the way to take pictures of it. Fantastic. I think I would hang that deck on the wall by a fireplace...that is a work of art.

That video is a few years old now. Lots of beer, and no respect.

Definitely Darwin Award candidates!

cool vid, just don't think that's an RJ

Yep, if I say I will buy or sell something, my word is good. The only time I have not completed a sale is when the seller missed the date to have it ready twice in a row. I went elsewhere after the second time I have completed sales where I no longer needed the item, just because I said I would

I'm glad I have some buddies on board! I wondered if my video would play. I couldn't get it to. However, seems others can. I think the purring of the horse just takes me back to being a young child on my grandfather's tractor. I can't get enough and I'm glad to have you all with me. Also, I'm only 1.5 years in to being in a position to buy toys. 2/3 were given to me with the doner saying they don't work. A little elbow grease and know how fired ten right up. After their baths the other day and after cleaning the garage I set out my small collection in which I proud. This is what I have so far ...

Like we say in Joisey. Fk him. Good thing u left. Glenn

That looks like a good old b100 and that deck looks like it just getting broke in !!! Lol Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Finally a topic I know something about. While I do not ride around with a beverage, unless it is a trip around the block, I always have something before I start and it sits in the garage waiting for me when I return. Understand, it only takes about 10 minutes to mow my yard, and I do not want to run over any flamingos...while mowing the obstacle course. But having that cocktail waiting for me at the end, is like having a cigarette after sex.

Many of us here have run onto the guy that has a car, truck, or Wheel Horse sitting off in the weeds or bushes that they won't sell. Well, fast forward 20 years and:

Hey now...we at should thank him for inventing the internet.

I usually have pretty good luck with CL . I have met quite a few characters. I haven't gotten many good deals for a while as my lucky Monkey shirt finally wore out. My wife and son used to get a big kick out of it. Me standing in the rain with my monkey shirt buying a WH snowplow. We always tried to have a good time and look for some laughs along the way. Picked up a C-160 north of Buffalo and we needed a pit stop bad. Stopped at like 6 gas stations until we found one that had a port o pottie on a sidehill no less. Went way out in the boonies north of Syracuse for a garden plow. Driving along we saw a sign that said Poop Rd.!

I think your right,if I remember right the son told me his father brought them out from Missouri 20+ years ago when he retired,don't see many around these parts,sadly that doesn't make them rare or worth as much but a big thanks for everyone's input,definitely going to work every angle to make a deal.

Thanks for the input. It appears to be a false alarm. While I charged the battery (even though it measured 12.5 volts), I checked the plug, points, and coil, and had already disassembled and cleaned the carb. When I installed the recharged battery it started after a few cranks and ran fairly well until I readjusted the carb. It runs fine now. I am still puzzled at losing ALL power when I tried to start it before. Not even enough to run lights? I may still have a bad battery. After charging it read 13.4 volts. I kept the multi-meter on it and the voltage started dropping and stopped at about 12.5 volts. If I have the problem again I will take the battery to the auto store and get it tested and/or replaced. Thanks again

Would a transaxle pulley off an 856 work? Same shaft size, same OD just not sure about the belt width.

You should not be able to spin the belt without turning the engine pulley. On the horizontal shaft engines the rule they use is that when tight, there should be less than 1" deflection when you push on the belt. Im not sure if that would apply here, but the idea is that it should be pretty tight.

Something wasn't right on his end. You did good leaving. I have my trouble trying to sell on CL. The scammers wont leave me alone.

Acquaintance, not too smart, purchased a new "Deere" me. Haven't seen it yet but, hear tell $1900 from a dealer. His deck, three blade, was leaving a stripe, needed to overlap making a second cut. Duh, one blade was installed upside down. Dealer says, "Decks are shipped pre-assembled. We just hang 'em." Wow! Unbelievable. My decks are removed, set on horses for winter service; blades sharpened or replaced, spindle belt, grease, paint 'n patch (if needed).

NOT an RJ 35

I left the dents in my 704 hood. Adds character.

There's a guy in Lakewood that has them for sale quite frequently . Don't know what the story is behind it though Digger, who in lakewood? Thats not that far from me, ty. If you said newark, i would say stolen, lol. Glenn I'm assuming he meant Lakewood, NY, not NJ.

you should paint the blades yellow

Been a bit more done to the Black Horse, as it has got known as. Front wheels now sport tri ribs on scooter wheels and trailer hubs. Hubs etc, Wheels bored out and re-drilled to suit hubs. Stub axles modified. Standard axle shorted to 3/4". I got this plough. Below is how things look now.

So... Chris was able to finish up on all his work late last night. I ended up driving it home about 50 min ride and left my newer truck there. It has been a fun 24 hours for sure. First thing this morning I got some help from my boy and my neighbor came over and we installed the bed, bed wood and a few other little things. Made a few trips with it to the store and it is really fun to drive. It has been a long time coming that is for sure...

Those switches are available but they are really expensive. Last I looked it was $64 in the USA. I researched and I think either Eaton or Cutler Hammers is the manufacturer, but they are special order only. I picked up a used one from Joe's Outdoor Power (in the US) for about $14. As Garry said, the best bet is a used one from another UK member

Picture time..... I've selected some pictures that show where I'm at with this. Some are parts that I took off in hopes of getting that part looking better. Some parts are in some stage of paint or prep. There are examples of trouble I've had (brought on by myself and my lack of experience) LOL. For example the 1st pic is of the drive belt cover. My 1st body panel attempt. Scuffed the paint with whatever i have laying around. Wiped it down poorly and shot some regal red. I taped off the original paint just to see what it would look like next to new paint. ( like I said previously, i fully expected the worst and that's exactly what i got.) I don't have much in the way of budget. I'm not terribly poor mind you, my thinking is use what you have and improve your tools as your skills improve. As my skills increase so will my budget. Pic 2 is of the start of the hood. This one REALLY scares me as it is what everyone looks at. I'll get over that and get some paint down though. Pic 3 is the deck. Spent more time prepping and got better results. Let's face it. It's a friggin mower deck. Just how good should it be? You'll see in pics 4 & 5 some of the deck parts. Haven't decided how far into the quality barrel i want to go. I also found a "test" as i call it. The blade carrier under the deck is cracked. I talked to someone that said it could be braised. Again, beyond me but I'll get help and learn more still. The rest of the pics are just pics. More will come, just like you guys, as time allows. Thanks for looking and keeping this hobby well informed.

@rmaynard Looking at the Eastwood link above, it looks like they have a two part in rattle can. I dont know enough of the details to give you more info, but they should have info sheets.