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6 pointsI was looking for a small tractor with FEL and came across this honey hole,only interested in the D-160 but offered to buy them all to help out the owners son,father is not well,only thing I know is the D-160 (350 hrs on tractor)was re-powered a year ago with Wisconsin engine,no specs on that,supposedly they all run,414-8 has a belly mower so gents judging by the pics what's a decent price for all three tractors. D-160 W/FEL 416-8 414-8
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5 pointsMy 42" SD was in pretty good shape, and I would like to keep it that way. Knowing that I am not going to hose it off after every use, I figured I needed to take some measures in protecting the bottom so it will last as long as possible. When I started this project last fall, I was planning to replace all the hardware with stainless. I was also planning to remove all of the spindles and disassemble them for inspection, but other priorities came about and I put it off until I blew up my 876 in June (that's another story) and I had to get another mower back in service.I used a POR15 "starter kit" to seal the bottom of the deck I also put some on the top where I noticed rust from where grass collected under the belt guards. POR15 is advertised as a sealer that can be applied directly over rust, and does not need a primer to adhere properly. I don't have a sand blaster, so something that I could get clean enough with an angle grinder and garden hose was important. It is kind of expensive, but I figured out that there is a starter kit that is under 25 bucks, and is advertised to cover 6 ft^2. It was enough to do 1 deck and probably enough to do aa 32" or a push mower). The steps I took were:1. Remove all caked on grass with a screw driver/ putty knife2. Remove everything that bolts to the deck so bolt heads are not coated. (I didn't remove the spindles, because I ran out of time, and the outside of my spindles looked pretty beat up, and i didn't want to damage them by removing)3. Use angle grinder w/ wire brush to remove any loose rust4. Use POR15 marine clean to clean the bottom of the deck. I diluted this 4:1 water to cleaner and sprayed it on using a squirt bottle. I let it set for about 15 minutes, then hosed it off. 5. Use POR15 metal prep to treat the clean surface. After letting the deck dry, I used a foam brush to apply the metal ready solution to the surfaces that were going to be coated. I let it dry for 30 to 40 minutes to allow it to etch the surface. The metal developed a white zinc powder on the surface in this time. I hosed it off and let it dry over night. By the time I got back to it 2 days later, the surface had a developed some surface rust, but POR15 likes this, so I just wiped it down with a dry rag, and moved on to coating. 6. Coat the surface with POR15. Don't get this stuff on your skin because it will not come off for several days. It will not come out of clothing. Anyways, I applied with a brush and did 1 heavy coat. I put a second coat on the spots where grass had collected the most. I was very pleased with the results. Time will tell whether or not the coating holds up, but my confidence level is high, and as cheap as it was, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another kit and coat my other decks. Before grass removal of the bottom:After wire brushing/cleaning/hose off:After applying the metal prep, but before hosing it off:After the metal prep was hosed off, and the deck was wiped down with a dry rag: Here is after I finished coating. It isn't pretty, but it will work.
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5 pointsLol! I know! Right? I guess I'm a little younger and quicker than Bob. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Awright there buckaroo, who you callin' old and slow? All seriousness aside, that's a nice tractor. However, I have never seen a B-100 with a seat safety switch. It's not on the wiring diagram, and of the 4, not 35 B-100's that I have owned, there wasn't one on any of them. Also, lights were optional, so if the previous owner added lights, maybe he also added a safety switch.
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4 pointsI bought a '76 B100 8 speed with 36 RD deck today. Everything works and is complete, except the seat switch was bypassed. The k 241 starts right up with no smoke, and purrs like a kitten. The deck has been well used, repaired, and well used again. I think it's ready for retirement. My plans are for a complete tear down - paint - rebuild. I think this will be my snow plow and yard mule (horse). I like the look of the front of this series more than the 3,4,5 series (and my 520H). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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4 pointsBingo!!!! I swapped the pulleys and reran the belt. Now she is working like she should. You guys are awesome. Thank you guys foreverything and i hope the videos and diagrams can help someone else down the road.
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3 pointsBoy, if I had a couple of grand laying around, and some welding skills, I bet you could make an awesome piece of equipment with these. http://www.surpluscenter.com/New-Arrivals/COMER-160-1136-853503-RIGID-REAR-TRANSAXLE-13-1523.axd http://www.surpluscenter.com/Power-Transmission/Transaxles/Hydrostatic-Transaxles/HYDROSTAT-BOBCAT-COMER-6678761-890580-FRONT-DRIVE-STEERING-AXLE-9-7655.axd
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3 pointsOn the list today for my possible acquisition was a decent little 312-A, and a latecomer--a C-141. Both of these were posted on Craigslist. I will try to keep this brief. Maybe all this was caused by the recent blue moon... I went to look at the 312-A that was supposed to be a "come and get it--I don't want it" transaction (gas to get there, and a minor amount of sweat loading everything). I get there, go through my process of assessing the Horse, do a test drive, and check all functionality. Everything was good, the hours were at a so-so 1150--but it's a Kohler Magnum 12 and I wasn't too concerned. No leaks, no smoke, no problem. I had pre-arranged the deal over the phone and the owner was glad to have me pick it up... so I thought. Suddenly the price went from "can't you load it any faster?" to $400. It had but one attachment, the tiny 37" rear discharge deck. I drove 3 1/2 hours to get to that one. I left without it. Here's where it gets really strange>>> On the way back home I stopped to see a C-141 that popped up on CL late last night. It was equipped with a snowblower, a 42" rear discharge deck and a 48" side discharge deck, extra set of AG tires mounted on rims, chains, weights, and about three of every necessary belt as a spare. I called this morning and pre-arranged a time and a price--only if everything was as advertised. We agreed to $300, and my adrenaline was pumping. I think that's a steal for a clean and working C series--especially one with lots of extra horsey stuff. So I get there and wait for 45 minutes for the owner to come out of his house (he was home, he knew I was there). Pretty creepy. During that time, I gave it the usual inspection. At about the 30 minute mark, and after knocking on every door I could find and pressing every doorbell button... I couldn't take it. He had verbally given me the OK to test things out as much as I wanted (per our phone conversation). So... I pulled the choke and put it at mid-throttle and cranked it up. It started a little hard--but it started--and purred. There were 2 immediately obvious issues: the motor was loose on its mounts (or broken mounts) and the drive belt and pulley were shot and whipping erratically and causing the drive clutch to jitter. The owner actually had to bungee the drive clutch release in the operating position because the shaking was violent enough to pop the clutch release. The oil was new and fresh, and the trans fluid was clean with a new tranny filter. But--the whole bottom half of the engine block, mounts, frame, and snowblower lift arm were covered in black oily sludge. It did not leave a good impression. It looked like he NEVER wiped up anything in the 25+ years he says he's owned it. He never came out of his house. I had a trailer and cash, and was willing to deal with the issues because they are all repairable. $300 for a C-141... I thought is was worth the price of admission. I knocked, dinged, and called him one last time and then drove away. Super creepy... I got about a mile away from his house, and he called my cell phone. The conversation went something like this... "Hey, are you the guy with the red truck?...Yes...Well, you just left my house...Yes, I know, I was there for 45 minutes and despite all my efforts to contact you, you never came out of your house..." Then it took a very unexpected turn. The next thing he actually said to me was, "You have some kind of balls to show up at someone's house and start his tractor and drive it around his yard... some kind of balls, buddy!" Umm, I was literally speechless. This guy knew everything about our arranged meeting and what I intended to do once I arrived to check out the tractor. He knew I was there, but completely avoided me. So, I left... what else could I do? I won't get into the rest of the ensuing conversation, but let's just say... I politely declined... ...And drove like a bat out of hell away from Wheel Horse Deliverance. Two nice finds, zero horsies on the trailer... crazy people everywhere! And a weird guy ("It puts the lotion on the skin" kind of weird) who couldn't come out of his house to take a handful of cash. I hope the next horse finding expedition turns out much better. WOW!
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3 pointsWhile it may be a bit early for Brrly's annual Big 10 football thread, it is never too early to set the tone..
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3 pointsThat deserves a big thumbs up for hanging in there! Glad you got 'er going!
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3 pointsI don't know who designed that belt drive arrangement, but after seeing that pic, they need to be committed!
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3 pointsWatch your beer around those horses, my 310-8 took the liberty of turning my 4 beer acre into a 5 beer acre last week
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3 pointsCollectible or not, $2100 for three decent looking, good running tractors with a FEL is a GREAT price. Round these parts, a complete FEL goes for $1500 or so by itself. If you get that wagon in with everything else thats even sweeter. I don't think WH is very common out on that coast, so you might not have much in the way of "parts tractors" around for sale but there's plenty over here to keep your herd up and running.
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3 pointsIn Jersey we also say NEVER AGAIN! I wouldn't give either of those sellers a second thought. Life's too short for that sort of BS. i also won't go more than an hour for a run of the mill horse. It's gotta be perfect to go any further.
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3 points60 gal tank, PTO pump, short spray boom allows easy go through and around trees.
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2 pointsOK...so it is only 4...it is still 3 more then anyone else. Bob is the expert on these guys...you are lucky to have him as close as he is. Pick his brain if you need to...he is excellent people.
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2 pointsJay, from what I see in the video, it looks like the flat and v-pulleys have been interchanged. Yours looks to have the flat pulley on the bottom and the V pulley above it, opposite the diagram.
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2 pointsThe factory original "metal wheels" had the zerk fittings on the outside and were 1.62" hubs, and after '63 the wheels had the zerks on the inside and had 1.5" hubs. The original 1 5/8" wheels not last in areas with salt and rusted quickly, the only replacement wheels after '63 were the 1.5" wheels. (that's why the repro flex hub caps we make are shorter in depth, 1", to easily fit on the 1.62" hubs up to their outside zerk fittings). To me, your zerk-wheel doesn't look standard 'Wheel Horse', I think the zerks were always on the Hub stem (the first original WH front wheels were actually standard wheel barrow wheels). Glen
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2 pointsI purchased this Northern 16 gallon sprayer and fabricated this easy on, easy off support that attaches to the rear "Tach-a-matic" bracket on my D-180. Sure beats pulling a trailer. Haven't connected up the electrical yet, but my plan is to wire in a jack similar to a headphone jack on your iPod for the electrical connection.
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2 pointsThe advertised price for the tractors all together is $2100,not sure that's a fair or reasonable price,especially here in Oregon. 414-8. $600 416-8. $500 D-160. $1000 the D-160 wasn't originally for sale,noticed it in the background and we agreed on the price over the phone,won't be able to physically check them out for another week or so,know absolutely nothing about WH tractors,retired and looking for a toy as I operated Heavy Equipment years ago in the military,yep mid-late crisis coming on.
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2 pointsLol! I know! Right? I guess I'm a little younger and quicker than Bob. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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2 pointsI have been threatening - and threatening!! to do this to a deck ..... but.... just never got around to it. Well, I think your nicely done write up, and pics is finally gonna prod me to do it! Course it helps that I presently have a 48" torn down completely and ready for paint, so I just think the afternoon I'll go pick up a can. FWIW - the metal prep stuff is almost certainly phosphoric acid and I HAVE to have this stuff in my shop at ALL times what with these old horses having so much rust I use quite a bit of it. Like on this 48" deck, I sand blasted every piece and I then give everything a coating of it. And yes, it will form a white powdery coating and will flash rust. Its not really a rust preventer but it kills any of the existing rust changing it to ---- um, iron phosphate?? (I'm not sure of that!)
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2 pointsLiving in Maryland, I can't believe you got that B-100 before RMaynard. I think he has 35 of them now. Nice looking horse ...and that is the way to take pictures of it. Fantastic. I think I would hang that deck on the wall by a fireplace...that is a work of art.
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2 pointsYep, if I say I will buy or sell something, my word is good. The only time I have not completed a sale is when the seller missed the date to have it ready twice in a row. I went elsewhere after the second time I have completed sales where I no longer needed the item, just because I said I would
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2 pointsI'm glad I have some buddies on board! I wondered if my video would play. I couldn't get it to. However, seems others can. I think the purring of the horse just takes me back to being a young child on my grandfather's tractor. I can't get enough and I'm glad to have you all with me. Also, I'm only 1.5 years in to being in a position to buy toys. 2/3 were given to me with the doner saying they don't work. A little elbow grease and know how fired ten right up. After their baths the other day and after cleaning the garage I set out my small collection in which I proud. This is what I have so far ...
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2 pointsThat looks like a good old b100 and that deck looks like it just getting broke in !!! Lol Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
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2 pointsFinally a topic I know something about. While I do not ride around with a beverage, unless it is a trip around the block, I always have something before I start and it sits in the garage waiting for me when I return. Understand, it only takes about 10 minutes to mow my yard, and I do not want to run over any flamingos...while mowing the obstacle course. But having that cocktail waiting for me at the end, is like having a cigarette after sex.
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1 pointthanks for the input guys, I think I'll try my luck over in the classifieds. Price might scare me back to bolting on the modified hitch i i'll
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1 pointCrazy update.... The guy called my phone 5 times today. I finally answered call #5 (accidentally, because my truck bluetooth connection was set to auto answer). He started by saying, "WTF? I thought you wanted to buy this tractor! I was nice enough to let you drive it around my yard and let you check it out. You said you would give me $500 for it... you're a liar!" Without skipping a beat, I said, "I will buy it... for $100, because I have about $200 worth of parts to buy in order to get it in proper working condition--so that adds up to the $300 we originally agreed to. And, I will be there with my friends who will help me load it up. They are off-duty police officers." He said I was crazy, and it's worth at least $1000. I said thanks, and hung up. >>>>>>>>>>HE CALLED ME AGAIN AN HOUR LATER! I really had no intention of dealing with him--even if he accepted my $100 offer. My phone has a blocking feature that I just turned on for the first time. End of story. I will be using a different method if I attempt to buy off of CL again.
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1 pointThanks for the positive comments guys. Many of the 'skills' were picked up in my youth keeping cars on the road that should really have gone for scrap.. Manged to get a bit further in the last couple of days........ It's difficult to get the fiberglass to stick down perfectly round the sharp contour of the edge so having buzzed it back any gaps were filled with 'Chemical Metal' a resin based filler with great adhesion to metal that sets very hard. It's tougher to sand back than standard filler but easy enough with the flap disk in the angle grinder. Don't know what the equivalent would be in the US, it was originally made by 'Plastic Padding' here but Loctite liked the product range so much they bought the company. The spindles came off the shell OK, mainly because I'd wrapped a bit of masking tape round the circumference before applying the fiberglass. Not too much rust and even some of the original red paint was detectable. the metal was cleaned back, treated for rust, and primed along with other bits that would become inaccessible when the shell was flipped over. Holes were also drilled trough the fiberglass for the pulley and belt tensioner mountings I could have spent another hour filling imperfections on the top surface but I'd grown tired of that and it is after all a cutting deck that will be largely unseen under the tractor and will get covered in grime so pressed on and sprayed the top with high build primer. Quite pleased with the results actually. Turned my attention to selecting and cleaning off the best pair of spindle bearings from the two decks contributing to the project. As already mentioned, one was completely shot. I'd pressed the bearing unit out to investigate the bearings used and was about to consign the whole thing to the scrap bin when I made a discovery..... There were actually only two good spindles with bearings that run smoothly from the four available, one was from each deck. There were two noticeable differences between them though which was puzzling. (highlighted in the photo). The one on the left has the bolt added to the body and part of the chamfered part of the casing that helps to keep the muck out appeared to have, well, gone! The answer came to light when I noticed something I'd previously missed. The original full length bearing has been replaced with separate new bearings, one at each end. So it appears that there's a mod you can do to rebuild these spindles using standard bearings that are available but it involves machining out the casting to take the wider OD and that's how the chamfer disappeared. The bolt is I guess to retain a spacer between them possibly it was made from the casing of the original integrated bearing assembly. It was very tempting to press this adapted arrangement out to examine how it's bee done but the risk was too high as I only have two usable spindles and it is one of them so it will have to be something to look at in the future when the spindle fails. To be continued........
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1 pointThat looks like an excellent picture Brandon...let's see what happens and thanks for hanging in there.
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1 pointYou are not kidding...that is a Honey Hole. I would not know where to begin on a price for all of that...especially in Oregon. Good luck and hope you get it.
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1 pointHere are the pictures from coating the bottom of the deck. Before grass removal of the bottom: Ready for application Here is after I finished coating. It isn't pretty, but it will work.
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1 pointNice find. That seat is nice I would cover it or replace it with a cheep one = hard to find. Enjoy the ride. Gary B........
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1 pointI have to say i've met sum really nice guys from buying and selling stuff on craigslist so i guess i have to take the bad with the good
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1 pointI am always amazed at the skills some of you have. Awesome job.
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1 pointYou can't go wrong with a 857 they are great! Just finished one this year for my daughter
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1 pointI have been using that 704 that we had on the trailer for sale ever since the Mentone Swap Meet! When I saw these pictures again today I said to myself what was I thinking !