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I just got this baby home. Got it for $300 including hub caps. Runs like a top!! 1967 857. I don't think I got hurt.

i recently bought a moldboard plow and today was the first test

So I'm at the shop where I volunteer and one of the guys starts flashing pics of a tractor on his phone... "ya. The guy has this thing and it needs a stahteh - thats starter for you non new englanders he shows me the pic and I say. "That's about a 72 commando based on the stickers and steering wheel". Shows me the engine plate and the sticker covering the model and serial,for the machine. Well it's got electric start so I pop on here and download the reference chart for years and engines. Coulda been a 857, nope wrong engine code. turns out to be a 72 commando 8 as best we can tell its not running so I offered $100, there might be extras like a deck or blower or something. He's got 3 machines total so I may come home with something new Oh, and why exactly is this place awesome? Because in 3 months I've learned more about models and options to id old stuff and to find reference materials when I need them thanks All

Hi Lynn, As I promised, here's your 875 the PROBLEM the new rod x Alive and well and riding the horse trails.

This is meant to make you smile. This is a story only emoticons can tell.............................

well then while your at it: http://www.ecotrons.com/products/small_engine_rhb31_vz21_turbocharger/ That should help overcome the flathead limitations.....

I put a HF winch on my 312-8 and have the grader blade on the regular lift.

I just picked up a rear discharge deck that was on a tractor I bought for 250 bucks and it is in real good shape. As you stated, it needs painted and the deck spindles gone over. (And some real good blade sharpening too). There should be no need for you to drop that kind of money on a used deck and never, IMHO, on a new old stock deck. The Wheelhorse decks were some of the heaviest built mowing decks on the market. Way over-engineered! This is why you see so many decks still being used on 20, 30 and even 40 year old tractors. Welding shops charge very little for hole repairs on decks that were not cared for. (Rode hard and put away wet). Spindles and the spindle bearings are easy to find and so are the roller and deck wheels. Even if you spend 250 buck for a used deck that better darn well be hole-less and quiet for that price, pressure spray it, dry it off very well and coat the bottom of it with a good sealer. If you clean it out just decent between mowings and grease the spindles and wheel regularly then super clean it and store it inside over our winters like I'm sure your tractor is, it should last your lifetime. If you don't care for it, it will still last many years but repairs will be required in all the usual suspect places in time. My opinion and never given unsolicited!

Moved a ton of stone the other day with a Briggs 14 hp Work Horse. Did OK but a FEL would be the way to go. Sorry to hear 'bout your problems but, were you just having a bad dream? An excuse to tell the Ms., "I'm going to have to get another Horse."

The frame is correct for a 400. Also the clutch/brake pedal is correct for a 400/550. Same frame was used for a 400, 550, or 401 BUT, something is modified or lengthened in the front too. The hood should mount close to the front edge. Better to find another frame unless you are doing a rat rod

Very complete, you even got the cigar lighter!

I forgot to mention before thanks for the add! As for the serial number plate that is gone as well. The motor does appear to have been swapped out to a kohler k181s with a 12v ignition system. However I must admit I do like the little stack the previous owner put on.

Heck yeah... looks like it's gonna clean up nicely.

Ditto what @Ken B said.

The transmission is a Wheel Horse # 5010...a 1960 transmission. You can tell by the brake band mount on the side plate...it is at an angle rather then straight up and down.

Another thing a wheel horse can do, that very few (if any), other tractors can do, is set there in the basement (or garage), all shined up, and silently, just look damned good.

I'm happy you got that tractor Boo. I knew it really wasn't a good fit for the original poster but I knew it would make a great tractor for someone.

And you don't have to join to see pics!

Redsquare is the best WheelHorse manual you will ever find .

You did good Jack, a buddy's got a 314 and loves it. Looks like we are pretty close to each other - let me know if you need help rustlin it!

Looking forward to the pics. I would just start off with the good cleaning, Change the engine and transmission oil, air and fuel filter if needed, grease her up, check the battery cables and any other routine maintenance thing you can think of. Then use it some to find out if there's anything else it needs.

With the wide range of implements that were made for Wheel Horse tractors you can cut grass, plow and blow snow, plow and disc or till your garden, drag logs out of the woods, (been there done that) sickle bar mow along ditches, and just about anything your mind can conjure up to do with one. NO they aren't a 500cc four wheeler by any stretch but I wouldn't have the need for one of those here other than recreational use. We mow about two acres here and if we both are on the B60 and B80 it takes an hour to do it. The 8hp Kohlers have plenty of power and sip gas like Grandma does moonshine. We also have a C85 with an OH140 Tecumseh transplant that whips through a foot of snow without much trouble. I'm sure you can find lots of pics of members putting their Horses to work here on the forum.:)

Jack, the chain thingy hanging from the rear tell me the tractor has the lift cable / rocker shaft / chain. Its got all the good things going for it mechanically and ground engaging wise. Time to call the owner and go get the tractor before someone else (like me who knows what they are looking at) beats you to it!

Well I had 3 tons of stone delivered to day for drainage and my garage floor that I wanted to move when I got home because it was in my driveway. Well it all started out when I had to move tractors to get certain ones out to use. I wanted to use my Gt 14 8 speed to pull the dump trailer filler with stone because it has the pulling power. Well the new battery was dead again the second time in a week so I'm guessing its not charging . So x out that plan. Next push the rider out of the way so I could use my gt 14 with the ark loader to fill the cart. Plan B pull the cart with the 211-3. That worked good till the loader gt14 stopped charging too and had to keep it running. So I moved 2 tons that way till I blew a bucket hydro line and had to limp it back to the garage. So the other ton was moved with a shovel and 211-3 with the johnson dump cart and plow. The little horse saved the day lol.

I put firestone tri-ribs on the front of the 520 that I use for the snowblower. Love them. Much better steering control in the snow, and not too harsh to use on the grass, unless it is REALLY wet. The Carslile Turf Masters on one of my other tractors are gentlest on the lawn, especially when wet, but the difference is small. The difference in snow and ice is a huge positive for the tri-ribs. On the back, the ags are best in loose dirt and not-too-sloppy mud, but are a little hard on grass, and do big damage if you spin them. On snow, ice, and hard pack, turf tires with 2-link v-bar chains work best for me. Ags do poorly on these surfaces. On normal or wet grass, I still like the Carlisle turf masters, inflated to 10-12 lbs. My most useful setup is turf masters in the rear, with aggressive chains and extra weights in the winter, and tri-ribs on the front.

Sand? Great for any garden (or lawn)! Improves drainage, warms up in spring permitting earlier planting. Keeps the plants feet warm on chilly nights. Gypsum is another soil conditioner ( http://www.usagypsum.com/agricultural-gypsum.aspx ). Gypsum works! I covered an acre of grass lawn with sand, looked like a beach, the moving earth swallows the sand and presto, heavy turf grasses that limit weed growth. Sand piled around a foundation will permit water to drain by limiting the hydraulic water pressure against the structure. Sorry, a past agronomy student, Penn State.

Here it is! Where do I find the serial number so we can figure out what year this bird is? I was told 1990 but according to my searches on here the decals look to be more like 1994-5... I love the look of this tractor, even on its unkept state. So, as I'm loaded and getting ready to leave, I ask the owner what it takes to use garden implements on this tractor. He begins to explain about the Brinly adapter hitch. He tells me that he used to have one for this tractor but he sold it. He opens a cabinet in the back of the shop and there it is!!! He says, "I guess I still have it. You can have it if you want it!" I like it for three bills!!!

Rob, wellcome to red square. Some pictures would go along way. Best of luck. glenn

Surprising that... it's pin even came out.

Really BM..... quit bein a stick in the mud.......now yer tallkin.......

Just to over emphasize the point! This place is the best.

I don't know about wheel horses, but yanking with a farm tractor can result in it rotating around the rear wheels and doing a back flip. Lots of farmers have been injured or killed trying to pull stumps with a farm tractor. Be careful

Wow !! Lookin really good. keep the pics coming. I can't wait to see more.

Sometime in its past but it was dry when I pulled the plug and put diesel in to the top a few weeks ago and it still took me about 3 hrs to wedge it apart after removing the hitch pin.

Awesome book & a great investment , The author Michael Martino spent a massive amount of time & effort bringing the series of books together and the books are a must for every WheelHorse enthusiast . remember to buy 2 books , one for reading and one for saving for investment.

OK I just torqued the hubs last month when I adjusted them... one was so loose it was falling off..and the other was was in so deep that it was touching the trans... left rear oil seal is leaking... so i have been babying it and watching the fluid... I did watch a video where a guy plucked one out in like 3 sec with a pick ... think that is a little video editing there. I will check the mounting plate for any sign of stress cracks...

There are some New - NOS copies of the first edition available at Amazon right now (some Wheel Horse collectors purchased several copies):

OK not gonna lie that was kind of fun I took it into the woods and looked for the logs that my wheeler hated.... Two were 9 ft long and 1 FT in diameter. 1 cherry and 1 maple... so not light pine logs... the 4th log I dragged was 31 FEET long and 8 inches in diameter... not as heavy but impressive because of the length. Funniest moment was when I got almost all the way out and it wouldnt go anymore, I backed up and took off again and nothing... after the third time I noticed that the drag cable had taken down a sappling and got stuck on the base... and it was pulling the sappling out by the roots while still dragging the log. I have no doubt that it would of if it could have gotten more traction. I would like to say that it was a nice level straight run but who am I kidding it was more fun with uneven terrain and turns to make while dragging...some where almost 180 degrees. The main differences that I noticed between dragging with the horse vs the wheeler: I never once felt like I would tip over backwards... where on the wheeler I did more than once. It did scare me a few times when it felt like it was going to go over sideways due to uneven ground. But some quick booty shaking and it got some bite and took off again. Once it was moving I had to look back to know the logs where there... I was comfortable on the machine.. where on the wheeler you rode with with your face over the handle bars and your chest on the tank... Vs just sitting and riding like on the wheel horse. There was less calculating my route... I just turned when I had to and it went... on the wheeler you went in one direction until it stopped then went in another to change the angle of the log then start again ... It may sound crazy but I think the machine was more determined to get the job done than I was... and the more I worked it the more it seemed to wake up... I do have to remember to take the parking brake off.... after the second log, I unhooked it and took off and it felt like it was bogging.... thats when I noticed the parking brake was still on... ooops. Wonder what it would have done with good tires... I am still using the old ones that came on it that are hard as rocks even with no air in them. So to say it did what my cub never would have dreamed of doing is a true statement... was it safer and more comfortable and efficient than the wheeler hell yes.. Now what else can I do with it lol

Thanks for the blasting tip. I did not get to work on the blasting cabinet last week. Work got in the way. Was going to take a day off but too many wheels fell off. lol. I am building it myself. Right now its just a stack of metal panels but I will post progress pictures as it develops.

For further clarification: http://grammarist.com/spelling/plough-plow/

I currently use a commando 800 (two 50# wheel weights and fluid in the rear and 20# with fluid in the front) to do most of the things you mentioned. You'd be amazed what 8hp can push and pull My grandpa bought it new and I still use it today.

Don't forget...they can make ice cream, split logs, pluck the feathers off a chicken, tow around airplanes, and surprise a lot of people in a pulling contest. Let's not forget the video link to the four horses pulling a semi back onto the roadway...imaging what else they can do. With the right traction, anything is possible. Last but not least....they can pull the ears off a John Deere!!

No one mentioned run a generator....

If only they weren't so prone to breaking

854's used a 5025 transmission. Section 2 in the manual covers it.

August 5th thru 8th Canandaigua N.Y. Ford and Fordson National Show http://www.pageantofsteam.org/ Ok we got a lot more NY. members now. How about joining in at the Steam Pageant! I will be there the 5th thru the 7th. Look for the Aliis-Chalmers club. I plan on being right down the row from them in the show area. Bring a tractor and show it! Cruise around and see all the neat contraptions on display. I'll have my big canopy and plan on having 4 tractors there providing the weather from now on is reasonable. This place can get swampy with lots of rain as opposed to Pa which held up well.If it looks muddy I'll just bring 1 trailer load. Come on NY let see some horses at the pageant!

Picked this one up this rainy 4th of July morning. Any guesses? I know, that's not much of a clue. Maybe this will help. Loaded up and heading home. One more clue.

Neil, I too ran into that problem when searching for ag tires for my GT14, I finally found skid steer tires that worked in the size 27x8.5x15 mounted on the original GT Rims. So you may want to try searching for skid steer tires, they can be a bit pricey, I finally found a commercial tire dealer who saved me about $60 per tire which put the total at $100/tire. Hope this helps. John Here is what I found and used, brand new 27x8.5x15

I wasn't going to reply to this topic but after a couple of PM's asking my opinion I figured I'd chime in. First and most importantly a fundamental belief that I have. Forums are communities where information is shared. RedSquare is a community for Wheel Horse enthusiasts. We are not a business and aside from forum hats and supporter packages don't sell anything. Our philosophy is and always has been to support as broad a range of collector / owners as we can. We do this through the sharing of technical information, personal friendships and a sense of community for a shared interest. We have and continue to support other communities as well, and they have supported us when we needed it too. In the end all these communities have the same goals to provide information and friendship amongst the members and visitors, and most do it very well. It's been accepted practice here to allow the posting of other forums as well as the discussion of them as long as it doesn't turn into forum bashing. To me, nothing is worse than going onto a community / forum and seeing posts about "that other forum" and how they do this, do that, ban this, edit that.... and that will not be tolerated here of WheelHorseStable or any other forum. So my opinion. I personally like RedSquare, but I have also joined up on WheelHorseStables.com. It is somewhat out of curiosity but also in support of the effort. I am certain that many of you will enjoy both forums, and some will prefer WheelHorseStables and some RedSquare, and that's okay with me, I don't feel that there needs to be a competition. No one is going to get banned from RedSquare because they joined another forum and like it better, really it's okay, there's no such thing as one size fits all in this world. Now, that said, we will insure that proper respect is given to all other communities here on RedSquare, and that means that we can't be having talk of the "other" forum. It's fine to reference posts and information on WheelHorseStables via links where applicable, but please be sure to respect the intellectual property from WheelHorseStables.com as I am sure they will respect ours on RedSquare. So that's my opinion, I hope that you are able to enjoy both, of course RedSquare a little bit more