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Finally finished the 417. The seat came back from the upholstery shop late last week. (50 bucks and he did a really nice job on it)! Finished the rims in Rustoleum Metallic. Had to use the old tires though and I found I have two different tires up front and surprisingly, two different rims on it. I need all four tires on it and will wait a while to do it. I added pliable cups to the spindle tops and cut out the area where the cotter pin moves. This will help keep them clean. The governor still revs it up some at idle mid and full throttle so I have to delve into it next. (Not certain what that is all about). I think the PO has a NAPA belt on it and it grabs on the clutch release. It's just a hair too short. It turned out nice but now I have to put it in service! All I do is mow with the rain and temps we have had and the two I alternate with need a little break. (Doing three big lawns).

Turned out to be a beautiful day to head out early & get some riding in . Here's a couple for anyone interested in seeing them .

Well i guess its time for me to admit I need a horse with more power I've been using my B-60 for a year or two now and I've always thought it had plenty of power but sense i've been using it to help my brother mow his yard that is very big and has lots of hills i've realized the B-60 just don't have enough power. I have to mow in 1st gear most the time 2nd if i'm lucky and the little 36" rd just is not that big when you get out in a wide open area I love using it at home in my little in town yard but i think i'm going to look for something a little bigger like a 312 or 314. I would like to hear what you guys think about this decision

It's cheesy but for those who have an FEL with the crossbeam above the dash...................well, it was three bucks at Walmart and though it's not Wheelhorse red, it is reddish and what the h#*l anyway!

I got lucky and found this beautiful 701 at the Garden tractor daze show in portage wi. It is complete with a few minor wrong parts. Looking forward to restoring this one seeing how I have been trying to peice one together for a couple years now. I guess that means I'll have spare parts

More pictures from the show, This was a great show I think total count was around 550 garden tractors in attendance. I am planning on attending next year again. Would be great to get some more Horse's to show up next year. Thanks for looking.

I agree with the dirty sticky pulley part. My 12 8 spd did that with a WH belt, a Napa green belt and a TSC kevlar belt. I finally discovered that the trans drive pulley was worn unevenly. Replaced the pulley and all is well. I have the same issues with motor sheaves at work. Over time the surfaces will wear almost like a car rotor. Then a belt no matter the brand, material, or tension you set it at will squawk or slip. You would be surprised how much a metal pulley gets worn out by a rubber belt. I take care of over 300 belt drive pieces of equipment at work. you'd be amazed at some of the pulleys I've run across.Some are so worn, they have a knife edge on them! What would be more amazing is management buying me a laser belt alignment tool!

Here is my wheel horse classic GT 315-8.

Don't ask me why but I love the "Small Tire" 310-8. The 37 inch deck cuts Great too. The 315-8 GT Classic has 109 hours on it.

That's one way to get the loader "float" setting to work!

I like you...let this thing here... see a bit of sun today too.

After wrestling a few transmissions I decided there has got to be a better way instead of trying to balance on wooden blocks. So here it is, just a standard wire milk crate, cut out a few of the wires and the trans sits in it stable and easy to work on. Thanks for looking.

That ones not dirty, this is a dirty one! Clean it up with some solvent, and a little wire brushing to get the rust off it. After washing I like to give the needle rollers a squirt or two of brakeclean - something that will leave them "dry" - while I look for signs of pitting. If they pass visual inspection and feel good on their shafts I give them a squirt of oil. If the rollers are going to fall out, they will probably do it on disassembly, or as you are washing them. The bearing is designed to stay together, if the rollers fall out, then they had enough wear on them to create too much clearance - so you needed a new one anyway. They are cheap, but often I dont replace them unless I need to. Gearboxes are a little intimidating at first, but they are pretty simple once you start to understand them.

No way! I understand the whole brand loyalty thing but sometimes you have to take the blinders off. I'll bring my JD 318 over to SteveBo's meet & greet and let anyone who wants to try it. I would say it compares to the 520 & 522XI. The big advantage is the real live hydraulics. I've driven a ton of garden tractors of all types and brands and as far I'm concerned the 318 is the overall best. Even used beat up 318s with like 1500 hours are still selling for over $1500 all day long. Ones in the condition and low hours like mine are commanding like $2800! No green junk at my meet and greet.... lol

Guys count me in! I would also really like to see more WH at my plow day, 2 hrs from where this meet and greet is being held. Ill drag mowing man and a few others with me!

There are some videos and some excellent threads concerning the 8 speed trans in the Reference/Transmission section on the main page...this is one of the good ones... I had my #1533 ball bearing fall apart inside one of my trannys...it kind of sounds to me like you may have the same thing going on. There are 12 of those 1/4" balls in one of those bearings and they just love to get trapped in the teeth of the gears. I would not keep rolling yours around. Drop it and open it up...you want the shallow side of the tranny down when you split it. http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/17947-idiots-guide-to-8-spd-trans-rebuild/

Well back from a great show lots of great people and tractors, thought I'd share a few pics with everyone. The first was wheel horse row colt was in the feature building with case Here's a case demonstrator model custom cases a dozer an orchard and a tricycle this was an amphibicar a panzer I always liked the color of these this was our neighbors at the shows tractors the front one is a 140 and yes that is a three bottom plow! wheel horse row again a custom sulky for the kids It was a great show can't wait to go again next year!

Like you Bob, I'm also in the market for a truck (sold mine a couple weeks ago). Whatever you do don't "under-buy". If you can afford to go with a Tundra with a V-8 do it! If you load up a 6x12 with 4 "C" series machine you have a very heavy trailer. You'll be glad you have the available power. Mike.........

Thanks you guys .... this gives me an idea of what to look more closely at. Just to let you guys in on it, What I did was I converted a 518H to an 8 spd. A 5073 build by MB, and a donor SK486 for the clutch and brake linkages. I left the drive pulley on the engine (knowing it is 5 1/4" instead of 4") and got a 86" belt to accommodate this change. I knew it was gonna run a bit faster, but now is too fast. I have to mow in 1st gear....lol. I now have a 4" pulley to put on the engine and a new 83" belt from TSC. Would be nice to have a gauge for the pulleys.... Thanks. Ya know, come to think of it, I would never replace a chain without replacing the sprockets. Maybe I should look for new sheaves before I burn up another belt...

Sure... more is always better.

Yesterday I had the chance to just "get out of the house." My wife and I had lunch at a smaller "Five Guys" further North that was accessible for me. A trip to TSC was also included with her doing the running! Along the way, they were harvesting wheat down here as well.

For being easy, it took you almost a month!

Still no picts on this end.

So, sell that green thing... for profit instead.

I agree 100% with "Save Old Iron."

It's a keeper. Put it to work. That's what I'm doing with mine with 109 hours on the clock. Looks Great!

I recently got a new job at the local metal recycling yard. In two weeks time I was able to save a few Wheel Horse implements. One tiller one snow plow and two single stage snowblower. All of these were headed to the sherreder but I caught it just in time. These findings lead me two my next find a 416 8 with electric lift. Going tomorrow night to pick up the tractor I will get pics of it tomorrow but here are the implements

The wheat harvest was in full swing today in SC Pa. With 2 JD combines w/30' heads, 2 grain haulers, 2 balers, and several grain trucks. I know this is a small operation for you western guys, but this is a pretty big operation for the rolling hills of SC Pa.

Just restored this 63 Jacobsen thought I'd share some pictures..

The summer Zagray show is next weekend http://www.zagrayfarmmuseum.org/Zagray_Farm.html

Years ago I owned a Toro Wheelhorse 520H with a 46" deck but unfortunately I had to sell it. I've missed that tractor ever since I sold it and a couple of days ago I was browsing through Craigslist and came across a 520H with a 60" deck. The Onan engine fired up right away and ran great at high RPMs, it missed a little at idle but a carb cleaning should fix that up. I ended up getting it for $220, is that a good price? I noticed a small oil leak near the oil filter, hopefully its just the old filter or maybe the oil sensor. Also I found the tach gauge missing off the instrument panel and found it broken laying behind the battery, would like to know the story on that. Also looks like the PO bypassed the wiring box as its running off one fuse with some spliced wires but the tractor starts and runs. Might need some help with the wiring in the near future. Both the tractor and deck are heavily rusted so I plan on sanding priming and painting the whole tractor. Its good to be a Wheelhorse owner once again (If a Toro/Wheelhorse 520H counts!)

Same here but I had a tractor repair shop get the o-ring to jic adapters and the made the hoses themselves

I'll bring a 2nd little round hood for you to ride around on. You bring the gas, tow strap and plug socket!

I should be there.....but I'm currently truck-less so I'll be on foot if I make it. Mike.......

I had two vehicles titled in my name, a Ford e-150 cargo van for work, and an Astro touring van for pleasure. My wife has a Surbaru Outback. Being retired now and on a fixed income, I decided eliminate one or the other or both of my vehicles, and replace them with just one. The Ford was titled to the business, so I was paying for two insurance policies. All three vehicles are old. Though the Ford was the best running and most practical for towing the "horse" trailer, it was not capable of hauling more than one passenger. The Astro was able to haul 6 passengers, but was the most troublesome, and not capable of towing a fully loaded trailer. So the decision was made to sell both and compromise on one. Since I still have to haul grandkids, junk, tractor parts and tow a trailer, the mid-sized pickup seemed most practical.

The shaft from the drive mechanism was all snotted up with weld so I'm going to grind it down and re weld a new piece on. gmso far this tractor has been tight and not worn out in the typical gt 14 spots The hood is looking excellent after 4 to 5 hours of body work!

No way! I understand the whole brand loyalty thing but sometimes you have to take the blinders off. I'll bring my JD 318 over to SteveBo's meet & greet and let anyone who wants to try it. I would say it compares to the 520 & 522XI. The big advantage is the real live hydraulics. I've driven a ton of garden tractors of all types and brands and as far I'm concerned the 318 is the overall best. Even used beat up 318s with like 1500 hours are still selling for over $1500 all day long. Ones in the condition and low hours like mine are commanding like $2800! Just had a 318 at the shop. Frame support for rear axle was cracked off on both sides. Only one bolt holding the transaxle in anymore. Can't believe it didn't let go. Would have been bad! Tractor never had anything on it other then a mowing deck and a tiny 38" at that for cutting around cemetery plots. I have to say for such a heavy machine, it has a very poor axle mount. Needless to say is that mount wont be breaking anymore! My number one biggest gripe with john deere , is how much of a pain they are to work on. Everything is hidden under some kind of shield. Drop the deck, belly pan just to grease the driveshaft. The power steering is nice I guess. Give me the simplicity of a wheel horse any day of the week. Also , half the reason they cost so much is the mind over matter of the green paint phenomenon. Don't mind the 316 stickers. It had a hood swap...

just make sure it isn't the Eaton 700 hydro on the 314-A. the 314-H should be fine with the better Eaton 1100

Safety switches? Key switch? Solenoid? If you use your jump cables directly on the solenoid and it cranks, that rules out the solenoid and starter. You can jump the safety switches with a paperclip or piece of wire and do them one at a time with a test start in between each to isolate which switch has an issue if there is one.

It very well could be the brand of belt. The correct belt from your TORO dealer is designed to not fall into the grooves in the pulley so much and is cloth covered, which will let the belt slide a little instead of grabbing right away. One other thing it could be is dirty or sticky pulley grooves...use some steel wool to clean and then wipe them with mineral spirits. I would also suspect a weak spring on the clutch pedal. Sometimes, you just have to throttle down a little so you do not get thrown from the horse.

Like them simplicity's... My Grandma had a Sunstar (big beast) after my uncle retired the Cub 149 from mowing duty on near 2 acre. The only thing I dis-like on them is the left side discharge, you have to remember to trim on the right side when you mow..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'll be working away from home again so if I can get back early enough on Fri, I'll be there. I bring an old rusty 401 and a bunch of small 2 stroke engine powered tools to display. I might bring the old 1960s General post hole digger this time. This show is usually pretty big with lots of ground to cover so having a tractor to ride around allows you to go through it a couple of times and you will usually see new stuff each time so having a tractor to ride around on is recommended. It doesn't need to be a beautiful restored show tractor either, anything is allowed to be displayed or used to cruise around.

I took the deck off this morning, man was that easy.

great job Mike that's the finest refresh I have ever seen. And I learned allot about my paint problems after reading your posts and am glad i'm not alone

Brilliant information! * Kelsey runs over to his WH C-100 manual and writes this down.*

OREGON 90-643. got my set recently from amazon

Loaded up and ready to hit the road first thing Friday morning!

I pay the same amount as anyone else but it isn't bad each blower came out to 12 bucks I'm just lucky enough to get to see them and grab the stuff in time and all the guys I work with help me out if it's wheel horse it gets put to the side for me and I assure you nothing wheel horse will be shredded as long as I can help it who's knows I get too much and I can help out fellow wheel horse lovers on this awesome forum

and everyday this happens all across the country. Hopefully as an employee you still get to purchase back out of the yard at a reasonable ¢ / lbs rate. Nice save... but wow, I would think working at a metal recycler could be dangerous for a collector!