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Don't recall ever seeing a view of any WHs from above ?, so I thought I'd catch one..............need to trim the Acer again!

My son kevin bought his first tractor two​ years ago with his own money. He bought a 1975 c160 for $250 and he was only seven years old. That started the addiction. Kevin's first tractor pull photos Fall 2013, Age 7.

I grew up with my father's 1979 c121 and inherited it in 1988 when he passed. I still have it and will never sell it. I hope to be able to pass it on to one of my kids some day.

Stuffed this 605 into the back of my '84 240 Volvo the other night as a HUGE storm was bearing down on BG Ohio. Drove through the same storm a few hours later at the East end of Ohio, but only after it had picked up a ton more energy. Anyway, here's my first "What's in your mirror" shot:

​You do indeed Koen, test drive time is not that far off now Yesterday the engine frame got the treatment.. Some final welding and a bit of smoothing out.. Here the frame is fitted to the engine so I could make a mount for the coil pack.. It always amazes me how a quick coat of paint can change how something looks... A red metal sculpture Engine and a few other bits bolted back on.. The wheels were only thrown on to see how the front end looked.. They will be coming back off to fit the new tires/tyres. A close up of the front end... Me likes how it looks Before the rear axle could go back on I had to pull it apart again! The mounting holes needed to be made slightly bigger but the brake backing plates were in the way stopping me getting the drill in... So it was easier just to pull the axles out to get the backing plates out the way. I also needed to drill a small breather hole in the top of the axle and fit a jiggle pin.. A jiggle pin is a small split pin that's a loose fit in the hole.. The idea is the pin jiggles about and stops the breather hole from getting blocked up..

My friend found me a parts tractor. He helped me drag it home and I looked at it closer. I drained the fuel tank and cleaned the carburetor and had it running in about an hour! Motor oil and trans fluid were clean and apparently had been changed not long before it got parked. It's definitely not going to be used for parts!

Wheel Horse tractor with stack, 16HP Kohler, Mac Truck hood ornament, a very focused 7 year old with camo pants and good looking pair of brogans hooked up to a weight sled! If Norman Rockwell was alive he'd be painting this! -Chris in Florida. ​

Dad, that's a slick setup for the pedals for Kevin.

My first WH was a 257H with many implements and used it for 15 years to mow and plow snow. Then I was at a dealer getting parts and picked up a derelict C145 Hydro with a 42in deck and a snowblower for $100. Then I found a C165 8sd for a bit more. Well you know ….

In 1985, my Dad decided it was time to replace the old Gravely convertible he had, since he was the only one who could start it, and it was difficult for me, my sister, or my mom to mow with. After considering a few others, he bought a new 310-8 from Hutchinson's Equipment in Hopewell Jct., NY..... In 1985 the 310 had a red grill, and he painted ours flat black, so it kinda looked a bit like the bigger Horses We (I) mowed with that for a handful of years, and made a few bucks from some neighbors, until he bought a Scag walk-behind in '91 or '92. He kept the 310 for a few more years before selling it to a long-time friend of his.... Not sure where that Horse is today. My first WH of 'my own' is the 416-H I have today that I inherited from my grandfather..... Every time I'd help him with maintenance, he'd always tell me I should keep this tractor when the time came. So when he passed, that's what I did.... Kinda feels like he's helping whenever I get to put it to work.... He was an avid (that's an understatement!) gardener, and this year the 416 tilled my garden at our home for the first time!

There are all kinds of people that get into this hobby. Some like to collect the NOS horses, some like to just collect horses, some like to flip and part them out, some like (me) like to just go to shows, see the people and keep what I have running, An NOS tractor is not for me, I have no where to keep it out of harms way, and I would trip over something with tools in my arms and dent the hood. I am one of those guys that just can't have nothing nice...for long. I envy those that can collect NOS stuff, and I really enjoy being able to see one once in a while...and I have seen this one. If you like to collect this kind of thing, you really can't count the time and gas and what ever else it took to get it. You did not buy it to sell it. If it was mine, it would be down here in the man cave, so I could enjoy it and show it off. What is it worth...price less.

Started out Friday afternoon with what I thought was a great display. Look what I found Saturday morning! Gotta love my neighbors.

All- I would like to invite all my Red Square friends to a meet and greet at my place on Saturday September 19th. I checked the local shows and the Kent show is 1 week after this on Sept. 25th & 26th and Zagary is after that. I plan on having the yard in decent shape (growing grass) by then. Hopefully we have enough time for everyone who wants to attend make arrangements to do so. More to come but please mark the date ! Note- new date is Sept. 19th...

After a dipper broke off the connecting rod, which caused the engine to throw a rod, it was time for a rebuild. I also decided, since thre engine was out and looking so good, I'd do a refresh of the entire tractor. Below are the before and after pictures of the engine refresh. Tractor pictures to follow.

Seeing Neil's post with a Mountfield ad from the sixties reminded me that I've been meaning to post some info on the Amnor factory in Belgium for just over a year now. (Sorry folks!) I managed to track down a guy who worked there from 1980-81 and who provided a snapshot of how things were at that time based on some questions I put to him. I was Manufacturing Engineer at Wheel-Horse Amnor N.V. in 1980 and 1981. It was a fast growing company (revenue increased from 10 Mio to 17 Mio and to 25 Mio Euro in 3 successive years) for the markets Europe, Middle east and North Africa and assembled from small to medium size lawn- and garden tractors. This too fast growing caused then severe cash problems and a series of take-overs by other companies started until finally the company became a Toro company which it still is. The plant mainly existed of 3 different assembly area: 1) Pre-paint assembly 2) Pretreatment (degreasing, washing, phosphating, washing, passivation and neutralizing, final washing, drying), wed paint booth, cure oven 3) Final assembly Different models were assembled in different batches (very seldom two models were assembled simultaneously). The sheet metal parts were all imported from the main plant in US, (greased but not painted). (we did not have sheet metal presses to produce the parts ourselves) The engines were Briggs and Straton (US brand) or Kholer (European Brand). The majority of the other parts were also imported from US, except when European distributors were specifically asking for European parts, meeting the metric standards, in stead of the inch standards: e.g. bearings, belts, bolts, shafts. This was to my knowledge the only difference in models. So, using parts from another model as substitution to maintain production, was never done, as far as I know. Design engineering was done completely in US and they produced the ‘first-offs’. We at Geel only started assembling when the new model was full mature. (with exception of 1 ‘walk-behind’ model which was specially and solely designed for Europe by 2 engineers in Geel). (this model was not a big success because too expensive). My thanks go to Marc S in Belgium for sharing this with us. While on the subject does anyone in the US have a copy of 'Horse Power' (Wheel Horse Collectors Club Newsletter) from November 2003. There is an item about the Amnor factory in it. I have a pdf copy but unfortunately when it was scanned a critical page was missed out. I'm hoping that somebody may have collected the newsletters and can help by scanning the article in full for me. Andy

All- Let's plan on meeting at the exit 2 (commuter lot) off Rt. 84 in Danbury, CT. on Thursday morning June 25th @6:00 am. For those of you who have not joined us before please feel free to meet us there the more the better. So I have a headcount, please respond here if you are going to meet up with us to travel down to the show. When we arrive we typically set up in the same area however feel free to set up elsewhere and just travel down with us. My boy and I are really excited for the big show this year. I will be traveling light on machines and a little more stuff to sell ..

Well I saw someone using one of these on a thread this winter and while at HF yesterday one followed me home. I have 3 GT 14's I need to start tearing down and start reviving and I thought that this might make life a lot better on my knees, If any of you have Osgood-Schlatter, you'll agree that any opportunity to avoid knee to ground contact is worth the effort. So it barely fits and is at the limit of the lifts capacity but I think its going to be very effective. Especially once I get the tractor on jack stands and get the wheel s off. Thought I would add some pics in case anyone else is considering one of these.

Some how, some way I ended up here. What the heck, going to add one that's only been seen on Junkies!

Looks like you will need a few new parts. The bearing probably seized and caused the damage. Here is what you will need: # 33, 34, 35, 35 #33 - 102872 Shaft #34 - 32120-72 Snap ring (2) #35 - 32120-62 Seal #36 - 109842 Bearing Take the pulley/housing off, pry out the seal, punch the old bearing out from behind, install new bearing, put snap ring on rear end of new pto shaft, insert it from behind, install front snap ring, install new seal. Put it all back together and get back to mowing.

My first is documented in this forum. I got it almost 2 years ago...It's the C-161 Twin Briggs in my avatar. Spent the first year doing repairs rather than restoration. It runs great and cuts well. Decided to hold off on restoration and work on my 3 GT-14's I gathered in the meantime. Along the way I also picked up a tiller and large snow plow. Made it to the big show last year. I definitely have a mild addiction:-)

here is another good picture i took today of my 212-6. looks better without wheel weights right?

The electro 12 in my avatar. My grandfather bought it in 69. I used to plow his street with it every winter for years!! It was the highlight of my day getting up early and having one of my parents drive to his place so I could plow! When he died I ended up with it. I also have the 48 inch mower deck for it. I don't use it much anymore as the sundstrand is getting weak in the knees.....can't decide if I should swap it with an eight speed I have, or try to rebuild the hydro.... Steve

Sure, you can check them without opening the trans and have a good idea about those bushings. Put the rear end on blocks and pull off the tires and the hubs. Grab the axle and see if you have any movement up and down, and then side to side. You should have little to no movement. In and out should be about 1/8", but that is normal and has nothing to do with the bushings. You can check visually, but that entails removing the axle seals. You can then see the end of the bronze bushing...a good one will appear to be about 1/16" thick all the way around...a bad one (or going bad one) will have thin places in the bronze and some slop in the axle. If you have no slop in the axles, I would leave the seals alone. Those seals are about $18 apiece and are getting hard to find. Unless someone has a few in there possession, they are only available from TORO.

I would still check that battery voltage and also do a voltage drop on the cables. Could be a combination of things lowering the voltage enough to cause an issue.

Are those the original Tires? The reason I said $1000 is because it will be a tough sell. Lets start with the people that just want a lawn mower, they can go to lowes or even a dealer and use a credit card and these people will not see the value in it. Next are the folks that want a heavy duty worker tractor and have money to spend!! They can buy a new Deere or the like with a warranty from a company still in business, they will not see the value in a 40 year old machine. That leaves tractor collectors. Now of those, let's find the ones that would be willing to drop some coin on that tractor just to have it sit somewhere, because many collectors wouldn't feel right about working a machine that nice! So your left with a collector who is willing to buy a tractor for a sizable amount just to have a conversation piece..... If someone had the means to do that wouldn't they buy a rare model? I think the tractor is beautiful, no doubt, looks like it should be in a museum, I just believe it will be hard to ACTUALLY find someone willing to pay $2500 and up, many claim it is worth that but how many would really pay it? Not trying to be insulting just a little skeptical thats all. Steve

​NOS or not, it's still 43 years old. In the throw-away society we live in today I don't think most folks see and/or appreciate quality. They look at the shiny toys at Lowes or Home Depot with more horsepower under the hood and aren't willing to pay more for a 43 year old machine then what they can buy a brand new one for. All of us here on this forum know better but let's face it, we're a minority in the big picture. We all know that this tractor will outlast numerous big box lawnmowers but trying to convince somebody who doesn't understand is quite a task.

So with the long weekend, I was able to add some safety factor to my HF lift. I added ramps, rails on the ramp, tie downs to hold the metal ramp to the wooden pieces, stops to keep from rolling too far forward and access to the lift mechanism to raise and lower it. The wrench in photo is only to denote the access hole as the lever needs to be longer to assist with torque. Once on the jack stands, I can safely pull away the wooden additions as it is centered as it would be with motorcycle and similar in weight. All the hardware I had sitting in shop so the additional cost for some lumber and I am still well below what I would have to pay out for for a wider lift. My grandaughter helping me out is a bonus:).

My First is a C161 twin 8 speed which came with a 42 inch deck snow blade chains and wheel weights. Traded a John Deere Lx188 48 inch straight across. BEST trade I have ever done!!!! Bought new blades for the deck thinking I could keep up with the 8 yards I mow. I spent 8 days in the Hospital for foot injury and while I was there it rained for 6 of the days and the grass got tall, took me over 5 hrs to mow, Had to mow the yards twice just to make them look good. So I took the deck off and going to use the C161 with the blade only and to move my Trailers around.

Hey guys I'm new here, but I figured I would share my project I have going on. My neighbor was going to take his old c-100 to the land fill and I asked him about it, he said if I wanted it, it was mine. So I picked up for free! I have a 520-H that I'm pulling the onan off of and using it to power the c-100. My later plans are to put the hydrostatic rear end under the c-100 too. Yes the 520 was in perfect running shape, but I never was fond of that body style, so I'm building one!

I like it, but would have to glue a non slip surface on the metal table where the jack stands are to make sure they didn't move and shift the weight to one side which would be very bad. Overall I like it and see nothing wrong as long as it lifts the tractor just fine. Just don't know how long it will last, but maybe HF has taken care of the pump issue. Hope so.

looks like he loves his horse!

With today's gas and hot weather the gas is vaporizing. My solution to this problem is an electric fuel pump with a off and on switch. When it wants to stall turn on the switch it works every time for me.

From a practical standpoint, worth as much as anything else with the same size deck out there today. From a collector standpoint, don't know. I do know it pains me to see this tractor parked in the yard and not getting used.

The carb should be 'ready' as is. With the throttle set at high rpm it should be smooth and steady with no surging, etc, The brass screw head on the very top of the body is the metering jet, if the engine 'hunts/surges' make a very slight turn either way and see if it helps. The screw on the side of the carb is an idle adjustment and rarely needs attention. Let us know how it goes...

I guess I am a Wheel Horse "User" not a collector. All my horses have assigned jobs...some only a couple times a year but they all work and get dirty. I have no use for a trailer queen.

Those Horses look like they're ready to jump that Simplicity.

The man who owned it previous to me had taken great care of this machine and was the original owner. I have the original loan document as well as the original manuals and bill of sale. I bought to in 2007 after he'd passed away in 2002, and it sat untouched for over four years in his shed. The day I went to see his wife and look at the tractor, a neighbor had installed a new battery, we fueled it up, and it fired immediately. To say the least I was quite pleased and have been ever since. It's simply an honor for me to return this machine to its original glory.

I had a very productive last few days finishing the wiring/lights with cousins Tim and Todd. I took the time to really get the barn organized a bit today after all the other work. Here are some pics. Ready for final CO. In honor of Memorial Day I hung the 48 state flag I got from a buddy of mine. I really like how it looks.

I'm far from knowing anything about the value in $$ of such a machine.........But If I had to....I would guess $3500- $4000.... But it's also nice just to stare at you pics for free.. Nice Tractor!!

Finally some more progress on the HC. Hood and fender painted and installed. Just need decals (which I have thanks to Terry) and machine is complete. Cleat

Got a real nice '86 417-A from fellow Red Square member mimmmurray today.This has more dust than rust as it had been stored for 12 years. Now I need to expand my knowledge-base on the KT Series II.

I wouldn't trust the stability of that original battery. Even though it still works I wouldn't put a whole bunch of faith in it and its not worth taking the chance. The last thing you want is that battery to puke itself all over the original paint ruining it and the battery in the process. I would save the battery for demonstration purposes only, I'm not sure I'd even leave it in the tractor...

I told you to bring a BIG trailer....you were only 5 miles from my horse barn....could have made you trip more interesting.......so now you know where Warsaw Missouri is located, huh? Dave, you guessed it ...now that NOS is probably going back east where Rick found it???....Steve, we need to increase the toll at your river front toll both don't we?.....

Here are some Pic's I took at the little guy's show Winner of the plowing competition Garrett Brown on his 856 our camp Thursday night Brian

My first was a C175 auto that I got up in Oklahoma that had thrown a rod in the KT17. I gave $210 for it because it was in good shape other then the engine. Bought another KT17 in Dallas for $50 that had the same problem. Mixed the two engines together and got it running. That was a bunch of years ago and much to my surprise it is still running. No place to store inside so it and a C120 live outside and both will start anytime with no problems at all.

Cool topic. Mine was a beat up 551. Here are before and after pics. ">http:// ">http://

thanks Cutlas3391 for the original posting for this lift.I went to the Albany,NY store this afternoon and got one.I've never seen these lifts at HF before,let alone they were on sale until Sun the 15th.I looked at HF web site and they listed 2 different item numbers.One that went 3 or 4 inches higher.Thats the number I wrote down before I left for Albany.When I looked at the lift in the store,I saw that they had 3 different part numbers for this item.The female Albert Einstien that works there gave me the line of BS that all three were exactly the same item.I asked why they would have different part numbers for the exact same item.She sounded like a pre-recorded message when she answered me.I still have no idea what she said.She should go into politics.She'd go real far.I haven't taken the lift out of my truck yet.I'll find out tomorrow which one I got.Gonna have to fab some angle iron and flat stock extensions to widen it up a bit.Thanks again for the info.This is a great deal.Original price-$699.00 On sale price-$429.00 Coupon price-$299.00

I also bought one a couple of months ago. It works great, but the extensions are a must for safety sake. Carefull lowering it with a tractor on top. Mine has a trigger like control that if you are not carefull it will drop it in one shot. It sits about 6 inches high in the lowered position (wood extensions will of course make it higher). It is real easy to push around unloaded and I actually move it back and forth with a tractor on top. Since I have some real heavy machines that if not running I cannot push them up the ramp by myself, I installed a winch with a remote control on the shed back wall which allows me to steer the tractor and acticate the winch at the same time. So that the winch does not also pull the lift I modified the adjustable stabilizers by removing the pads and grinding them to a point that sticks to my plywood floor when using it. Nothing like working on a tractor with a straight back being able to see stuff that ordinarily one would have to be on their knees sticking ones head under the hood, and also having a place to keep your tools handy. Here was the frustrating part of purchasing mine. They actually list two models one being called a motorcycle/ATV lift with a different product number. When one reads the specs for it it states clearly that it is not only about 6 inches wider than the other one but it also lifts about 4 inches higher. I had to go through 8 different stores until I found the right one in the next state. I buy it, bring it home and then see that it is the same as the other one. Whats the point of listing two different ones when they are the same?

This is when i brought my d 180 home.It quickly became the most used tractor we had.Unfortunately we fried the motor and had to sell it off. Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk 2