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Spent the last several days working on momma's butt buggy. She has been helping quite a bit too! Thanks to our good friend Lane Ralph, a few modifications and our buggy and it is almost "show ready"!

Squonkasaurus!!!! Definitely has a ring to it!!!

WHEN I COME TO THE SHOW,,,,,,I BRING A 10X10 UP FAST TENT,,,,,ABOUT 4 FOLDING CHAIRS....A COOLER FULL OF COLD DRINKS,,,,,SOME VALUABLE LAWN TRACTOR PRICELESS ARTIFACTS,,, A HAT..... AND SHE WILL LOOK IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK AND ASK....WHO IS GOING WITH YOU ?? I WILL SAY....."NO ONE".....SHE WILL LOOK AT THE 4 CHAIRS AND ASK AGAIN.... "WHO'S GOING.....???? AND I WILL SAY...."JUST ME".......SHE WILL SCRATCH HER HEAD... AND WUNDER ,,,WHAT IS IN MINE..... SHE WONT COME....I'VE STOPPED ASKING,,,3 YEARS NOW.... ITS AMAZING,,,WHAT 2 OR 3 DAYS OF WHAT YOU ENJOY CAN FEEL LIKE....AND ITS EASY JUST PULL UP A CHAIR.......HECK..."STAND" !!!!!!!! BUT,,,,,,,,,,DO COME !!!!! THK YEAH ,,,,THNKYEAH VRYMUCH

This is strictly hypothetical so actually is more food for thought. But that said, using the inflation factor on the US dollar, I came up with a price in 2015 for a Raider 14 of approximately $5,736.89. The way I reached this was through a 1964 Wheel Horse price list and using a model 1055 as the example which was $754.95. I then calculated that cost to 1972 which was $1004.15. That was then entered to become 2015 dollars of $5,736.89. If someone has the list price for a Raider 14 that would be great and could actually place a price for "today's dollars." That is way less than the other more sought after Wheel Horse models as in the 420LSE and the low-hour 520-H. The trouble is in today's economy no one pays list price the way it was back in the '70s. I bought four vehicles in the 70's and it wasn't until the fourth in 1978 that I was able to buy for slightly less than the MSRP. Today most consumers would expect close to 20% off so that would be $4589.51. One could buy for example a 2015 Simplicity Broadmoor for that and have more horsepower with a larger deck. Ooh - but there is the retro-look factor though. New Holland found out the hard way on that with the Boomer 8N that looked like a Ford N series. Many languished on dealer lots for longer than expected. Someone who was born in 1972 may like a tractor that is as old as they are. My interest is having a tractor from every decade I've been around. For example, for the year I was born i have a 1951 tractor that cost me $50.00 and then put another $250.00 into. That satisfies my urge.

The 314-8 is an awesome tractor. I have one and it has become my go to tractor for almost everything. I have used a mold board plow with it in my garden, I cut my 2 acres of grass with it, this past winter I plowed my 200' long driveway with it. It doesn't bog down and uses very little fuel. I can get well over 2 and a half grass cuttings on one tank of gas (I don't run out but it gets pretty low). I bought mine about a year ago and really didn't have plans on it becoming my favorite but over time it has become my favorite. I think that $500-$600 is fair. snow blade=$150 Kohler 14 = $100 chains = $50 tractor = $200-$300

Also make sure you get all the little bits like the lift link for the blade, lift rod for the blower, idlers for the tiller etc. Cleat

Thanks for the photos Mike. I was there for my honeymoon in Nov 2006. As RedRanger stated I was surrounded by a bunch of noisy, rude would be an understatement. Quite honestly after living through 9/11 the Arizona memorial just didn't have the wow factor I had anticipated. The kids running around didn't help much either. We also took a tour of the Missouri. AWESOME! @ 6'8" I didn't even contemplate the Bowfin.

There are all kinds of people that get into this hobby. Some like to collect the NOS horses, some like to just collect horses, some like to flip and part them out, some like (me) like to just go to shows, see the people and keep what I have running, An NOS tractor is not for me, I have no where to keep it out of harms way, and I would trip over something with tools in my arms and dent the hood. I am one of those guys that just can't have nothing nice...for long. I envy those that can collect NOS stuff, and I really enjoy being able to see one once in a while...and I have seen this one. If you like to collect this kind of thing, you really can't count the time and gas and what ever else it took to get it. You did not buy it to sell it. If it was mine, it would be down here in the man cave, so I could enjoy it and show it off. What is it worth...price less.

All- I figured this is the time to start this thread. We will call it the "pre show" FOR SALE/WANTED/BARTER thread. In years past many of our members had deals made before the bid show. it works out really well as many members only want to haul bigger stuff if they know it is pre sold. So... I will start with the following items I have for sale. Model 603 Hood $100 (see my other thread for more pics) D250 72" mower deck spindle cover $25 6 x 12" original RJ/Suburban tires (Ags & Turfs BF Goodrich) in great condition $125 pair COMPLETE gear reduction forward swept front end set up off of a 520. This includes steering wheel shaft, mounting block, tie rods, axle, rims and tires.This is everything you need to convert your tractor to swept forward. The tires are in good to excellent condition as well. $450 FIRM on this. Custom made pull behind sulky. the wheels and tires DO NOT go with this. It has a decent 3 spoke RJ wheel (shaft is welded to the sulky but not the wheel. WH seat and fenders and tool tray. I guess this is worth more in parts than I am asking... $125 takes it. I will start to put together my other items with pics and post them here. WANTED : 1. Original seat for 953 2. Shifter plate for 953

That does sound like a bad spot on the commutator causing resistance, hence the squealing. Especially if you can bump it. You may be able to pull the brushes and clean them without disassembling it. At the same time get in and wipe the commutator.

Standard stuff. Put the video camera down and pickup the multimeter. Start by measuring battery voltage

Thanks for sharing, Mike. I remember the first time I was there in uniform in 1972 (yes, the Coast Guard sails around the world.) I always make a point of visiting the Memorial and the Punch Bowl every time I am in our 50th state. I find it fitting that many of the survivors aboard the USS Arizona on that day make their last wish to be buried with their shipmates.

Well that settles it....I aint going ! This tractor show stuff sounds dangerous!! Mike....

I think you will do better on trades, from a WH guy who really wants it, the market is to narrow. If it was a 420 or a 520-8 if would be different. You may get insulted by monetary offers. Your major selling point is the nos factor, hopefully you have documentation. Good luck what ever you decide. It sure is pretty!

My son kevin bought his first tractor two​ years ago with his own money. He bought a 1975 c160 for $250 and he was only seven years old. That started the addiction. Kevin's first tractor pull photos Fall 2013, Age 7.

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I just want everyone to know that there is a whirled of hurt coming to the show this year.

So my job has me traveling often and one of my "worksites" is Pearl Harbor. Been there maybe 15 times but never had the time or was with other folks who had already been and didn't want to go again to the Arizona Memorial. I just got home today from a 3 weeker so I had a couple Sundays off and was alone for part of the time so I went. I am so glad I did!! I'm not a museum guy and if I'm in one I usually breeze right thru.....but at the Arizona I spent almost 4 hours taking it all in....the movie....the boat trip...the memorial...the museum...and the grounds. They open at 7am and only have a limited number of tickets per day so I was there bright and early at 6:40am and I was still a 100 or so deep in line and when 7:00 came there were probably 400 people behind me!!. I got my ticket for the first showing of the movie which then leads directly to the boat to take you to the memorial. At the memorial the first thing you notice is the smell of oil which is still today (after 74 years) leaking slowly out of the battleship. You can see it coming up and then hitting the surface and quickly spreading out. Getting there early meant the water was calm and I could see a whole lot more than you would if the water was disturbed by waves. The feeling out at the memorial was somber and there was no loud talking, screaming kids and no one yakking on their cell phones....it was a very respectful crowd. There was a tour guide who was full of great stories about the Arizona both before and after the attack. It was interesting to learn that Elvis Presley was a huge contributor to the Arizona Memorial project! Of course I remembered my camera...here's a few pics (and two selfies....I gotta learn to smile). Mike............

Bob- I have a newer style (attaches to the rear tach o matic) mid mount grader blade in very good condition. I would want $400 obo for it. Best pics I have right now... MID MOUNT GRADER BLADE HAS BEEN SOLD

I will have my brake linings, lug nut kits, and 9-pin connectors at the show. Since they won't have to be shipped, you can save a bit of money. The following prices are for pick-up at the show only. Brake linings - $18.00 each Lug nut conversion kits - $17.50 each 9-pin connectors - $6.50 each I have a 1997 416-H (73423) that I am parting. PM me for specific parts and prices. The following 416-H parts are sold: ENGINE HOOD HOUR METER

Well I could be wrong and totally off base with Craig's problem but As a teenager I had a 61 Ford with basically the same set up. I had bad spot in the Gen. that would feed back and make the regulator hum and squeal with the key off. Replace the Gen and the problem was gone

​I have flipped wheel horses to keep my hobby going and not use other funds. I have made profit and lost money on horses many times. I just like to tinker and fix things, I can only hold 2 tractors at most at any time. This tractor is not one I would buy to flip. First I use my machines, so this wouldn't be for me, but it needs to be in a collection with a show room or barn, there are many examples of awesome barns on here, like Stevebo's, RickyV's old on etc. A collector like that.

​It is a funny sound for sure but I'm not sure which "solenoid" in the regulator would be chattering. The voltage relay doesn't activate unless the gen is producing over 14 volts - and that's not happening. The current solenoid doesn't activate unless the gen is producing too much current - that's not happening. The cutout relay doesn't close until the gen produces over 10 -11 volts and that's not happening. Welded contacts the cutout relay could be draining the battery charge back thru the gen field coils ?? Be interesting to see what the issue turns out to be. Without a multimeter (or even a battery charger) we are all just guessing. The multimeter will tell the story.

​Lane, that is the plan! Are you going to E'ville? Thanks for the nice comments guys!

Im not the best mechanic on the block, but I just did the same aftermarket type carb on a k181. Just follow the outline pacer posted and you will be fine.

​Thanks Horse, I'm not giving all the chassis the smooth treatment only the parts that will be on show.. Lisa is doing well thanks, she is well on the road to recovery. ​Thanks Richie, the supports were always going to go on, I just couldn't bring myself to make them a basic triangular shape.. ​Thanks Callum ​Why, thank you Sir I didn't take many photos yesterday as it was quite boring stuff.. The day started with making lots of these small plates.. To cover over these sort of bits on the chassis.. And the day finished with a red oxide chassis The welding is 99% done, just a few small detail bit's left to do..

1000 hours is a lot on an onan, but it looks like it was meticulously maintained. The attachments also look pristine, so I think $2000 is not out of line, but may be high. tall chute - $450 weights - $75 blade - $150 sweeper - $100 tiller - $350 that leaves ~$900 for the tractor The 520 doesnt have the swept front axle (more highly sought after), but looks fantastic for 1000 hours. If you can do a compression test and verify 95psi+ on each cylinder it would easily be worth that price. If not you could be staring down many hundreds of dollars of engine work or replacement engine if its on the edge of loosing a rear valve seat. Its not a guarantee that it will loose a seat but seems to be common on the wheel horse Onan's. Some go 2000+ hours with no issue. If you could get it for $1500 I'd say it would be a no-brainer, $2k may still be a good price. Hope that helps! Welcome to Redsquare!

If you've got a price of $500 offer him $450 even at $500 you should be ok

Profit or not, it is ONE SEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXYYYYYYY tractor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love everything about it!!!!!!!! I am jealous!!!

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A carb change out is indeed a pretty basic job and even for a rookie shouldnt be to bad - bare minimum of tools and straight forward unbolt/bolt, Remove air cleaner and its mounting - 3 straight blade screws. Remove fuel line from side of carb. Disconnect the throttle mechanism at the top of the carb, this may be a "pop" off or possible have a small nut holding it. If you choke cable is like most leave it til carb is loose from engine - youll see why Loosen the 2 nuts holding the carb (1/2" open end wrench) leave one backed out 3-4 turns and remove the other (this will ease replacing it later) At this point the carb should only be still connected to the choke cable, turn the carb in such a manner that the twisted end of the wire will slip out of its hole --- important! on re-installing reconnect the choke cable first thing, its impossible to get it back otherwise. Reassemble the rest. On the subject of the choke, carefully look at the manner the choke lever comes out of the body of you carb and verify the one you have chosen matches yours. These import carbs have a wonderful price but some of the choke connections dont match up to our horses (ask me how I know!!) If at any point you get flumoxxed, holler out here and some body will bail you out.... Good luck

Thanks for the pictures, if I go anywhere I for some reason am drawn to see the USS Arizona. Thanks

In 1985, my Dad decided it was time to replace the old Gravely convertible he had, since he was the only one who could start it, and it was difficult for me, my sister, or my mom to mow with. After considering a few others, he bought a new 310-8 from Hutchinson's Equipment in Hopewell Jct., NY..... In 1985 the 310 had a red grill, and he painted ours flat black, so it kinda looked a bit like the bigger Horses We (I) mowed with that for a handful of years, and made a few bucks from some neighbors, until he bought a Scag walk-behind in '91 or '92. He kept the 310 for a few more years before selling it to a long-time friend of his.... Not sure where that Horse is today. My first WH of 'my own' is the 416-H I have today that I inherited from my grandfather..... Every time I'd help him with maintenance, he'd always tell me I should keep this tractor when the time came. So when he passed, that's what I did.... Kinda feels like he's helping whenever I get to put it to work.... He was an avid (that's an understatement!) gardener, and this year the 416 tilled my garden at our home for the first time!

I don't do a lot of paint work so for the little that I use it, I bought a HF buffer a few years ago and a $100 spray gun from Home Depot. Works just fine for what you or I need. I wouldn't want to use it in a professional shop though. As you found, if your base color is somewhat level and has only fine orange peel, the clear levels it out and you can't even see the texture of the base color. Once you wet sand the clear smooth, the job will look like glass, be more durable than just the color coat, and have depth to the gloss. With 5 coats of clear, you should have plenty of material to work with. 3 coats is generally enough. I'm not sure how it went with Krylon rattle can clear, but when using a gun, the more layers of clear you lay, the more orange peel you get and the more sanding you have to do. I've found that three layers is a good amount as long as you don't get crazy with the sanding. Watch your sanding and buffing on outside corners and ridges. Wet sand only until the orange peel is gone. If you sand or buff through the clear coat and start to get color in your wet sanding, that is fine. Just wash it clean and shoot another couple coats of clear coat, as long as you don't cut through your color, you're fine. Like I said previously, save yourself some time and buy a good "cutting" compound to level out the fine sanding marks and then hit it with a polishing glaze to bring up the gloss shine. I like to use Hitemp.inc Xtreme Cut HT-420 and 3M polishing glaze 05996. Your local auto paint supply store should carry it or something comparable. Two separate buffing pads as well. A wool pad for the cutting and a foam pad for polishing. (wash the cutting compound off the paint before polishing) Low RPM is your friend-about 1500 RPM-high RPM creates heat-too much heat is bad. Take your time. Here's a link on some good methods to use. http://www.buffandshine.com/buffing-tips-i-11-l-en.html And info on buffing pads. http://www.buffandshine.com/buffing-pads-c-3-l-en.html

Awesome first ... smart young man there.

The man who owned it previous to me had taken great care of this machine and was the original owner. I have the original loan document as well as the original manuals and bill of sale. I bought to in 2007 after he'd passed away in 2002, and it sat untouched for over four years in his shed. The day I went to see his wife and look at the tractor, a neighbor had installed a new battery, we fueled it up, and it fired immediately. To say the least I was quite pleased and have been ever since. It's simply an honor for me to return this machine to its original glory.

Thanks guys it will stay right here maybe some one will offer the right tractors some day in trade .... if not I'm ok with drooling on it.

New arrival here today.

it has been a while since the motivation has been there to spend some time out in the barn. Last year is behind us and I am starting to feel rejuvenated to get some more things done. Took some time recently to add some more items. Really happy to add these to the collection.

​Ok, maybe I exaggerated a bit by saying an 'oil hurricane'. A tropical storm? I think I've lived in Florida too long.

I, and a few others on here, who were at that auction, have had the pleasure of seeing that horse and the 4 or 5 other NOS horses Rick had there that day. Absolutely beautiful.

I grew up with my father's 1979 c121 and inherited it in 1988 when he passed. I still have it and will never sell it. I hope to be able to pass it on to one of my kids some day.

amazing work as always!

Thanks for posting Mike. I was there in 2011 and took it all in. Just amazing. Like mentioned, the Bowfin is interesting and if you have the time, get out to see the USS Missouri and the air museum on the island. Both are must see. Plan another 4-6 hours to take in both. Good to hear you had a respectful group of people with you. Wish I could say the same for our tour. We had a group of very distasteful Japanese tourists while on the memorial. I think the memorial might just be the most somber place I've ever visited.

I'm liking the added on pieces a lot. Gives the front end a better look and adds support to the outer mounts. Great job Ian.

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Not a well written article. Don't miss the point that in addition to a $13k tractor he apparently bought $12k worth of attachments. Like a "shovel", whatever that is. A loader perhaps. $25k for his setup is almost as outrageous as $8k for a 48" deck 420LSE in 1986. And the 20 minute hookup for the drive-over deck must have been a mistake. They certainly meant 20 seconds. Steve

Excellent work! The Horse deserves some TLC! Be sure to post updates, the forum needs to see, dream, drool a bit.

Before inserting shift lever, make sure that the forks are aligned in the neutral position as shown below: