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I wasn't going to reply to this topic but after a couple of PM's asking my opinion I figured I'd chime in. First and most importantly a fundamental belief that I have. Forums are communities where information is shared. RedSquare is a community for Wheel Horse enthusiasts. We are not a business and aside from forum hats and supporter packages don't sell anything. Our philosophy is and always has been to support as broad a range of collector / owners as we can. We do this through the sharing of technical information, personal friendships and a sense of community for a shared interest. We have and continue to support other communities as well, and they have supported us when we needed it too. In the end all these communities have the same goals to provide information and friendship amongst the members and visitors, and most do it very well. It's been accepted practice here to allow the posting of other forums as well as the discussion of them as long as it doesn't turn into forum bashing. To me, nothing is worse than going onto a community / forum and seeing posts about "that other forum" and how they do this, do that, ban this, edit that.... and that will not be tolerated here of WheelHorseStable or any other forum. So my opinion. I personally like RedSquare, but I have also joined up on WheelHorseStables.com. It is somewhat out of curiosity but also in support of the effort. I am certain that many of you will enjoy both forums, and some will prefer WheelHorseStables and some RedSquare, and that's okay with me, I don't feel that there needs to be a competition. No one is going to get banned from RedSquare because they joined another forum and like it better, really it's okay, there's no such thing as one size fits all in this world. Now, that said, we will insure that proper respect is given to all other communities here on RedSquare, and that means that we can't be having talk of the "other" forum. It's fine to reference posts and information on WheelHorseStables via links where applicable, but please be sure to respect the intellectual property from WheelHorseStables.com as I am sure they will respect ours on RedSquare. So that's my opinion, I hope that you are able to enjoy both, of course RedSquare a little bit more

To put the trans back on to the frame it really helps to take a couple of 3/8 x 2" bolts...cut the heads off and the burrs from that...use those bolts, as studs, in opposite holes to line up the trans on the frame. It makes it so much easier to start and tighten the other 2 bolts...then remove the studs with a pair of pliers and place the last 2 bolts. This is the best tip there is.

Just thought I would post this picture.

I have my spare Onan running well and finally starting well on the loader tractor. I was changing rear tires around when I noticed some oil under the frame runners. I started stripping the tractor down more and found the lines to the hydro-lift were real loose and leaking! That's when I decided to start checking everything I could since it is out of commission and undergoing some needed work. Over half the the loader's contact points were loose. I dug into the fan gear on the steering and it was caked with crude. Cleaned and lubed up again! Changed a connector on the neutral safety switch. Cleaned terminals in the dash tower around the battery. Cleaned out the fins around the hydro pump. (Not bad but removed the grime on them). Cleaned the grass in the bottom of the tower and along the frame rails. Checked the frame/transmission attach point for cracks/loose bolts. Shot grease in all the zerks. I'll change the hydro oil next. This will sport some 26 x 12 x 12 rubber on the back soon. Modifying the fender tub and the foot boards this week to get them under it. Dual tires are nice but for one thing, I really don't want to snap and axle and two, in the snow, they stick out farther than the bucket and packing snow down that I'm trying to pick up! And if your trying to get along the side of your driveway, forget it! What a mess!

Karl. Very well stated. My hats off to you sir. Glenn

Luv my home made foot control on my 520H for snow blowing. It leaves the right hand available to steer and the left hand on the lift. The hand forward/reverse hand control is also still available for fine control when backing into a tight space.

I bought this ole girl knowing it sat for over a year, checked the oil, sanded the points, added some fuel, she cracked right off and purred like a kitten. Thought for sure the carb would have to come off, couldn't believe it, but he was a stickler for running his engines until the bowls are empty after shutting off the gas. Now I just need that new seat pan to get here so I can bolt it on and we're good to go, maybe look for a generator belt guard.

Thanks Karl for your post on this subject. I agree with Glenn, ( very well stated )

Here are a few examples....

Can I go to Geno's site and figure out how to get banned? Being a moderator for so long here on RS I would feel like a trader... lol. Good luck with the site Geno. Make sure you visit here too!

My Electro light switch has done its time so I have been on the look out for one. Sure enough one pops up on eBay NOS with correct part #. Before you know it this thing sells for $37.00 .I guess that guy really had to have it. Did a little research and found that it is a Cole Hersee. Sure enough its in their catalogue with all the specs, dimensions...etc. A little more searching and they pop up everywhere. Got two for a total of $14.00 and they even sent a free little led flash light. Bezel is a little undersized even though specs are the same as original, however the bezel is interchangeable with the new switches, it just clips on. New bezel does fit correctly and cover cutout if one wants to use it. So just do a little research. These things are out there.

I typically paint the rims with a brush using semi gloss rusto and it seems to give the look I want. I am not looking to make the rims too glossy but clean. I then use miller's tire paint and paint the tires. On the paint I have wet sanded and/or scotchbrite pads. I have used new motor oil, old motor oil, WD-40 and Marvil Mystery oil. I tend to like the mystery oil sprayed out of a bottle because I can get in into the areas I cannot reach with a rag. I can be dirty but I like the look.

3 hours sleep over the last two days... haven't been smiling too much lately.

Go it back together today...rear end actually ended up being pretty bad., one of the bushings was badly worn, which made the axle move up and down which just about destroyed the axle/gear as well as the other gear. Luckily I had a parts tractor I bought at the big show that had gears in it I used to fix this one. Also noticed it only drove from one wheel, it looks this one was messed up from the factory as they welded the plate on backwards that cause the pauls to engage, the hub is however in great shape on that side which is a plug, to get it driving again just ended up welding where the dimples were and now it guides the springs and the paul engages driving the wheel! Also cleaned up the spindles old dried up grease and got everything nice and smooth, also added a set of the pins that go in the tie bar which helped tighten it up some. Here's a few pictures of it in progress and back together, Gear case cover cleaned up... where the plate was installed wrong and welded hubs/pauls cleaned up and back side of the case and finally a shot before the cover was installed Back on all 4's

Add one more to the "very well stated Karl" pile. Very well written and thought out

The 2nd best tip is go out to a store and buy a pair of good grippy gloves for the wife/girlfriend. That way she won't drop the trans on you when she picks it up to install on the frame and you're lying underneath ready to start the bolts!

I know you don't want to hear this Steve but I had to drill mine out and with a Cobalt bit. A regular bit wouldn't touch mine.

Just in case you wondered, everyone in northern Wisconsin and the Upper penninsula of Michigan is laughing their asses off right now. A two foot drop of snow is not historic, does not shut down the city for three days, and does not require the National Guard. It is called Tuesday, and it happens all the time!

I finally figured out how to download these pictures. This particular one goes about 25 mph. Its also dirty in these pictures because I was out playing with it. What do you all think?

A little humor from Texas. Get most of these from out of state...hmmm.

It is amazing how much a RJ can do... but it does have its limitations Great vid Craig!

I eventually want to get a snow blower attachment for my C-120. I am waiting to stumble across a good deal, but don't know what one works the best and fits my tractor. Any suggestions?

I just got done building my own land leveler. Thought I'd share the pics. Very happy with it as it will cut right down through snow and ice on the drive and pull gravel. It's 5 ft wide and being pulled with my sons 73' 16 auto.

Incredible. Thanks.

Paul, you mentioned something that I had not thought of. I have a 312A as well and for all the bad rap that the Eaton 700 gets, it is a smoother transmission to operate using the motion control between the legs than my '89 520-H. One of the reasons could be the lower horsepower/torque of the two engines in comparison. I know I like the straight shot on the 312A compared to the notch pattern on the 520-H. I had a 520-H with the column shifter and felt it left a lot to be desired. Count me as having Matt's kit on the shelf for quite a while as well. I really should install it on the 520-H as my three 5xi use a foot pedal and it would make it easier operating between the different tractors. Maybe this Spring!

Made SOME progress this week, After discovering the trans was in need of some attention. so i put in all new seals and bearings and of course I had to track down a cluster gear and both sliding gears. it was also missing both shift levers and the input pulley,(not sure why the previous owner removed then lost those) Thanks to Shuboxlover for those. Got a bunch more small parts on their way from Daveoman this week also. This poor tractor has been raped and pillaged something awful. LOL So as of now the tranny is in one piece again and bolted to the cleaned up frame.

I'll bet it keeps the seat warm, Ed!

I used to be real big into guitars before cars came into the picture, then jet ski's, then houses, then kids and now tractors. Lol. I still have five guitars and amps buried away in hopes that someday my son will find an interest. This is a pic of my sunburst strat 12 that I custom ordered through the Fender custom shop back in the early 90's. In the late 80's these were produced for a very short run. I had an opportunity to buy one but never did. I always wanted one though. When I finally had a chance to custom order one, I went through The East Coast Music Mall in Danbury, CT (which is now long gone) and according to them, Fender claimed to only have two original 12 string necks left from the original production run. This is supposedly one of them. I have all the order paper work with it too. Funny thing is, I think I've only used it a handful of times - and was scared to death taking this picture afraid it might get scratched.

Don't know what the clearance issues are around this model, but what has occasionally worked in the past for a broken off screw that is loose, is to get an undersized screw and put a drop of a high quality instant glue/super glue on the tip and insert it to make contact with the broken screw. Give it a chance to cure then try backing it out by hand. This actually worked for me twice on a transmission mount bolt in a Chevy pickup that kept breaking. Rick

Steve neat pluming on muffler. Nice tractor. Gary B..

ya it was -15 celcius,thats about zero f,buts its been cold here all winter,today was about -4 c,but tonight is gonna be -18c,and tomorrow not above -13c

That's a great piece of information formariz. Not only for Electro owners but for everybody looking for a part for their rebuild. A little research can pay big dividends.

Your right that is a beauty, gonna wright songs about :wh:'s?

Matts pedals are great... unless you have short legs and a big belly, I blame mine on the insulated layers to keep me warm. If this is the case try and find a 8-3900 wheel horse foot control. Vertically challenged portly individuals fit well with those

The best thing that I have used is extra virgin olive oil , it gives a wonderful satin lustre and only costs a few dollars.

Here's a better picture of the dogpoint set screw Check this post:

Remember that's not just a bolt. Whatever you run in there will need to be 'fitted'. Here's what they look like. Sorry for the crummy picture. The machined end on the right side in the pic seats into the donut welded on the the shifter. You can't just run a bolt in there.

Heavy wet snow here yesterday... worked my work plow like a dog, trying to keep up with the storm. Got in it this morning...was frozen like a rock. Drove a mile and a half, working the circle, before it finally broke free, and could turn the blade.

If your set screw is broken...it is hardened steel...hard to drill. It may turn out by hand if you can get a hold of it. You can buy them on line, but in lots of 25. If you need one send me a PM and I can mail you one.

Sweet! Tractor was in neutral, I had to push it back up the hill and into the shop. I forgot how hard this thing is to push with wheel weights and chains. Thanks for the info guys. I'll check that out tonight. I was afraid my ole horse was dead, looks like it will ride again!

You didn't do any harm. There's a long dogpoint setscrew that hopefully is still partially screwed into the front of the collar where the shifter goes. First, make sure the shifter forks are as shown. Move them with a screw driver if needed. Put the shifter into the tranny in the neutral position. There's a hole in the front of the ring that's welded to the shifter. The setscrew goes in there. Use a 1/8" allen wrench and run the screw into that hole until it seats. Make sure the jam nut is backed off far enough. It may take some fiddling to get it in the hole but you'll feel it when it goes. Back off just a fuzz until the shifter feels right. Then, holding the screw in place with the allen tighten the jam nut with a 7/16" wrench. Check it out again and fine tune as needed. Note that my picture doesn't show the jam nut.

Geno, thanks for posting in this thread finally. I do not think anyone wishes you "ill will" with what you are doing. Actually, I wish you luck in what you are trying to do. I just think you went about it wrong...as it was stated you were trying to run a business. Quite honestly, your attitude is going to keep me from being a part of your endeavor. Your post #40 is testament to what I am saying. I wish you no ill will and I hope it works for you...I hope you understand that I will not be a part of your ego. Fair winds and following seas Mate.

Gentlemen...I have to add this. If you are going to have a site to enhance your business (which makes perfect since), why would you want to have it closed to members only?? I would think that I would want to make it available to any Ja-moke that was interested in what Geno has for sale, prices for things, and a list of inventory. Just thinking.

Why another WH site?

Thanks Blue! I see it's a members only sight. You can't even have a look around to make a choice to join. Doesn't seem very welcoming. Oh well, to each their own I guess.

Yup even upstate NY we were laughing over the reports. But them everyone laughs at Mass and CT when it comes to snow plowing roads

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in unskilled individuals suffering from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Huh???

Here's a picture of my 753 pulling tractor.

My 2007 Classic GT purchased in May 2008 #391 of 400!