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I bought my GT 14 without hearing it run; the previous owner did manage to get it started but it ran poorly. The link at the top of the throtte shaft fell off; I put it back on and tightened the screw. This should have been a clue to look at the carb harder; when I got it apart today the float was so high the needle didn't seat, the upper and lower bowl gaskets were blown out, and there was no gasket between the carb and block. There was an electric fuel pump hanging loosely off of the side of the frame on the left side, with a gas line going around the front of the grill. The only factory cable was attached to the carb itself, not the governor. The choke cable looked like it was salvaged off a very cheap mower, was 3 feet too long, and didn't work. The spark plug was finger-tight. All of the steering links were very loose; none had seen grease in years. One tire does not appear to be original; all were low on air. The bolts holding the loader on were loose. I still have to take the whole thing off and reset it. It starts up and runs pretty good now. I have to straighten out the wiring but most of it is done, anyway. I gave it a farmr paint job to stop the rust; next spring I'll be able to do a better job when it isn't cold out. Always something, but it give me something to do!

Here is a pic of mine. I purchased it Nov. 28th of 2012 in MA. from the second owner's son. His father bought a small veggie farm back in 1960 and the Senior came with the farm. The father only used it to ride around the farm and not to use for work. It was posted on CL in MA early in the week and I received an email from another well known collector friend with the link. After several emails to the seller he called me and we made a deal sight unseen. I had to replace the rear tires as they were not able to be saved however I had a like new set of the exact same rear tires on my 69' Economy so I made the swap. I did some tinkering with Jeff (fireman's help) and she was a runner. I brought mine to the big show in PA back in 2013 and a few local shows. I have no plans to sell this one however I am more than willing to let friends ride her as much as they want. Most people have no idea of what it is when at shows but to my surprise at the Kent show this past fall I met two fellow SR. owners. One is here on RS and he is in the process of restoring his. The other is not a RS member but lives in CT. The first picture is Joe Papke's lever steer. The second one is of mine and Jeff's (now Neil's) prior to him selling it. There is also one pic from the big show with mine and Wild Bills SR. and one of the big show line up.

In the last 3 weeks I've managed to bring 2 Horses back to the barn. Our household has gone from 0 to 2 ponies in the blink of an eye. Never owned a Wheel Horse before, but have always liked the coolness factor of the early models. The ruggedness, the long hoods, the slight incline of the hood rear to nose, the foot stirrups, the way you straddle the tractor like a horse, the stance....need I go on? Although there are at least another half dozen models that I like, I hope this does not become an obsession, as does my wife. A few weeks ago, my 12 year old son and I were driving down the road and he said, "Whoa there. There's a couple cool tractors sitting next to that guys house over there." We had been talking about finding an old tractor to restore, and with a quick U turn we were soon headed back to take a look. There were green tractors and orange tractors, but the one that caught our eye was a little red pony sitting off by itself alongside the old man's garage. Cute little thing it was and had the most stylish little round nose I've ever seen. We introduced ourselves to the owner and inquired on the possibility of a purchase. The man politely denied our inquiry and said any of these are for sale, but not this one. He had plans to keep her for himself and make a parade tractor out of her. After a good 30 minutes of chatting it up with the old chap and listening to stories of his tractor conquests, we were headed home with a 1966 Lawn Ranger looking over our shoulders. The old man had unfortunately put a fresh coat of red paint on her with a brush, a new seat that looked out of place on this vintage machine, and had spent his time primping her instead of making the needed mechanical repairs that should have been done prior. We'll be doing a total frame off "renovation". Should be show quality when we're done with her, although she'll be getting a workout as a toy around the "estate". We've already purchased new shoes, performed a needed tune and carb rebuild, flushed the fuel system, repaired the original seat pan (although my son prefers the old fashion springer round seat pan for it's cool factor) and since he's the one that fits the tractor....he'll be making the seat decision. She starts on the second or third pull when cold and always on the first pull once warmed up. Any one know what model this wheel is from? Now, with a toy in the shop that at 6'4" I must admit I look a bit "off" operating it, I had to look for a playmate for it that suited my larger frame. I set out looking for a 1267 or the like, but could not find one within reasonable driving time and the comparable 10 and 12 horse models in my area where well used up or incomplete missing too many parts. I "settled" on the next best thing. A very cool looking 867. Less HP than I wanted, but with the cool 6 speed (8 speed) who was I to complain? I guess I can keep the search open for the 3rd machine with a 12 horse? Right? After all, reading around this site, looks like these tractors seem to multiply on their own all the time. Well, Friday I made the trek and brought home our 2nd Horse. At 48 years old, I'm pretty satisfied with her completeness. It looks as though her previous owners have treated her well. (mostly...We'll discuss this later. Not for the faint of heart.) Her skin is straight, joints are tight, original color has a nice patina reflecting her life experiences, purrs like a kitten, and runs out smooth in all gears. Her original shoes are not cracked either. She will need some mechanical repairs such as some rewiring, replace the hitch cable, replace some seals and fix some leaks, and a seat cover. I plan to restore the wheels and maybe the mower deck, but the tractor will maintain her patina with a degrease and buff. Like her little sister, she'll be just a toy for the family. Maybe get some time pulling the yard cart or time eating grass on the front lawn every now and then. Neither horse is a primary worker for us. As for her mental and physical abuse by one of her previous owners, please be careful with viewing the following picture. It is very graphic and I'm sure most if not all members of this forum will find the following repulsive and uncalled for. Our first step in cleaning the little girl up will be to remove this attrocity from her skin. You've been warned. I told you there was previous mental abuse in her past. Maybe it was a tramp stamp???? Now I'm not put off by green, Our primary worker is green as a matter of fact, but to slap this sticker on a Wheel Horse is just wrong. I don't know if this was some kind of sick joke played long ago or if a previous owner hated this little tractor, but we'll fix her up and give her the love she deserves. How rare are the 867 tractors? I don't see many on this site or on the web, and even looking at some of the download manuals, the 867 is not even listed as a model in some of the company brochures and model listings. What model/year is this seat from? It's obviously not original to the tractor? It has the Wheel Horse stamped on the back and in the vinyl.

I'm cheap frugal! I went with Habor Fright dollies for the B-80 and now the Work Horse. again, lube them up before use.

Love the power of the 416-8 with the onan in the the snow and in the summer beats any tractor I have ever had

Great win for OHIO!- Good to see plain ole Smash Mouth Football, Midwestern style, win a Championship. Thanks - Al

Duke, are you sure it wasn't Go BUCKS !!!

I like the mid engine tractors best, but if I had to choose a favorite in my collection currently it would be the 55 rj35 I just picked up.

I also have a senior , which is now in UK , and is probably the only senior in Europe

I saw this Wheel Horse tractor umbrella for sale today doing a search on Google. The first time I have seen a new umbrella with Wheel Horse LOGO for sale. 50 years ago Wheel Horse did sell one as an option. A little pricey at $160 but that includes bracket to mount and would be a neat feature on an older Wheel Horse garden tractor! A mounting bracket that attaches to the rear Lawn and Garden tractor hitch/drawbar will be included with each Lawn and Garden style umbrella at no additional charge. Dimensions Each of the umbrella's 4 sides is approximately 46 inches. Approximate maximum opened spread width is 65". Canvas Information Fabric is 8 oz. double stitched water resistant "duck cloth" canvas. Corners are reinforced with heavy steel grommets. Center hole is also reinforced with a heavy steel grommet. Shaft Information Curved Hanger Lawn & Garden Shaft Design employs a Heavy Duty Metal Pole (1.25" o.d). Overall height is 52" http://www.tractorumbrellas.com/files/hfp/imagecache/product_main/files/hfp/WH4CS052814.jpg http://www.tractorumbrellas.com/umbrellas/wh-lawn

Don't know what you paid for it, but I bet that if it had been perfect, you'd have paid a lot more

Here's my 1954 RS 83. THANKS Ron.

Lawn Rangers

My wife sent me an E-mail at work today. Said she has reservation in Gettysburg PA June 25-26-27. Just wondering what I might do for 3 days in PA the 3rd week of June?

Congrats Steve, fun to the end! Congrats also to all the Ohio State and Big 10 fans I sure hope your right about OU but I have my doubts. I'm just afraid there are too many problems to get everything figured out by next year. Biggest problems are the pass coverage and a dependable QB. We'll see. Enjoy the win!

I really do not deserve this award...but if have to accept this...I have to give total credit to the Big Ten Conference. They have stepped out smartly in the post season and held their own...for a change. Even ESPN will have to deal with the Big Ten as a non fat, slow, big, white guy conference. BTW...their announcers suck... Anyway...congratulations to Ohio St...the team the committee thought did not deserve to be in the final 4 for a while until the Wisconsin game.....and then they won it all. Definitely, a class act all the way thorough...even in the post game they were gentlemen. The Big Ten looks like a class act to me this year...I like that a lot. It is about time. On the other side...I think the Big 12 is right where the Big Ten is...Oklahoma is going to break some hearts next year.. Anyway, I got to do this...

Uhh.... You could search the battle field for musket balls.

Hello the other day I posted that I would like to start a Registry of Seniors and Lever Steer Tractors. So far from this group I received 1 response, I know its winter but is everyone in hibernation ? I was told that there are an estimated 50 of each still around ??? So far on my list I have 9 Seniors and 3 Levers. I will KEEP asking for your help as an owner or someone that knows an owner please help spread the word, the search is on !! The information I am looking for: Name, State, Year, w/hood or without, engine info. code / serial #, Attachments, History, Contact Info. (kept Private) I thank you ALL for your help in this project. Ron Greco rsgreco@embarqmail.com

Ahhhhhhh yes...... the ORIGINAL Super C.

I don't have very thick grass, or usually let it get that tall, but normally in 2nd or 3rd high, these aren't very fast tractors and they have plenty of power to run my little 32" deck. It cuts pretty good, and is a lot funner than push mowing up by the house.

I don't care hoe bad the previous owner treated it, if the price was anywhere near reasonable, I would have bought it and then had fun redoing the whole thing. That looks like it is not in very bad condition. A little fixing will make a big difference.

Congratulations Buckeye fans I really wondered if Jones would come through but I have to say that I'm impressed.

Hands down... definitely Stevebo's senior.

I dig the "farmer" paint job.

Come on folks.......there is many more of these out there!!!! Please understand what Ron is trying to do is account for how many have survived and in no way is anyone trying to poach your prized machine! Good luck with the registry Ron......let me know how I can help you out.

Here is the link to the lights - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005H5OXA6/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A7DC3EDEBQG4S I mounted them in a piece of 1/4 inch aluminum channel stock I bought at Sears then used double stick tape to mount it to the seat bracket

Sounds like a classic case of abuse by a previous owner.it's in good hands now.Nice looking tractor.Love those GT-14's.I have 4 or 5 of them myself.No loader though.Have fun with your new toy.

Yours or his?

I like it!!!!

My suburban is my favorite to mow with but for work I love my commando 8's

I like my c-120 pretty much all c series

You know it is probably a good thing I don't anything like that. I would have no lawn to mow. I would be digging everything up just for S&G's.

That's the second gt14 with loader to come lurking out of the weeds this year! Great find. Now I find myself staring into people yards and fence rows looking for loaders and wheel horses. People must think I am nutz! lol That's a great machine! Have fun with it.

Nice find. No need for brakes.

Welcome to Red Square. Brakes are overrated! !!

Lane just make make a platform for David to stand on and have him hold a umbrella over you.LOL

Here is the spark circuit for your 1990 520-H. Looks like you have to be in the seat to complete the circuit. That means that the switch is normally open. When your butt is in the seat, it closes.

Thankfully its not my pic

Great Horse, nice setup. Even the farmer paint looks good. Makin' progress, time and effort you (or anyone) will not regret. An investment! Now, you can get back to work! Go go!

Wonder, who's gonna be the first.

Nice

Ok, it's Championship day an this thread is just so quiet. What's up??? Did I miss something or what?? Steve I hope you put some socks on to push your snow. Everybody got there picks in? Did you see the Mickey D's commercial where the to dudes from the Bears and the Packers sharing fries, bust out laughing on that one. That would be Steve and Mike sharing fries!!!! Wonder who get the last one??? Always a Hawkeye fan but tonight I'm cheering for Ohio State Buckeyes!!!!! Go Bucks!!!!

Nice tractor there Its got to be my 1968 wheel horse lawn ranger that i am currently restoring, i have a soft spot for anything red really, and especially my first my 1990 227-5 my 68 ranger (not the most recent photo and there is not much to look at as it is in bits and some painted but here is how i brought her) james

You can remove the dash panel that your gauges are in and get more access. It is just a couple of big screws. Remove your battery ground cable before you do this. The ignition has current and grounding the wrong wire will blow fuses. I have done it.

Hello and to RedSquare! Awesome find! Brakes are good for what now?

I've got the same loader but mine also has the independent three point. Mine is on a 69' GT14. I have taken the 14hp off and put on a 16hp. Love the tractor. Nice piece to have around especially when you don't feel like pushing a wheelbarrow. Good luck

I will probably not be able to make the fall meet and greet... Either my wife will still be in the hospital or I will have a less than one month old baby. I should be great for the spring one though, assuming I can convince my wife to do it and get babysitting for the youngest On the side note: I think the convention is a fantastic idea. I also think that Cincinnati would be a fantastic place to hold it. We have good places to have it and Cincinnati is (I believe) within one day's drive of somewhere around 80% of the population. I would love to help in some small way put on something like that. But as for near-term stuff. the meet and greet is a phenomenal idea I want to meet all you guys. I got to meet Lane Ralph today!

well, going postal on the tractor is a "type" of troubleshooting and as I said before, there is no right spot to start in your diagnosing your case. If headlights don't work then regroup your effort to get the headlights wired properly and working properly. The circuit tracing shoudl be simple. I would throw in an extra wire to chassis ground from the headlight lamp ground terminals. Don't depend on the hood hinge for ground. The headlight circuit wiring should be a straight shot from the ignition switch to headlight switch to lamps - no tap ins, no detours through other wires in the harness. Once you have that circuit nailed down, then maybe, just maybe, other overlooked connections and add ins may show up and lead to the "big one". Fix one issue at a time, even if they one you address first isn't the "big one".

Let's linger on the word "delay" - almost a mechanical vs electrical sounding word. Consider the delay may be in the mechanics of the Onan starter / bendix. Jump a heavy wire across the starter relay solenoid. If the delay is still there, the delay is in the mechanics of the starter. If no delay there, jump the battery + terminal to the starter relay trigger terminal any delay now ? yes ? then maybe the starter relay mechanics / electricals. If no delay there, remove the tan S wire from the ignition switch, jumper it directly to battery + and check for cranking delay. Yes? then there is something in the wiring between the switch and the starter relay. If no delay then try the starter thru the ignition switch - delay there? then maybe the mechanics of the ignition switch ? Otherwise Boo, I think Gary has you on the right path. Wire by wire tracing from the ignition switch to the starter solenoid. Trying to resolve this by "the symptoms" may just turn out to be a prolonged exercise in frustration. Pay particular attention to any obvious additions someone may have made into the wiring to pick up a convenient "hot wire" for some other past electrical addition.Don't stop if you find something obvious - there may be more than one wiring fault causing this aberration. The last thought for today is how the headlights and voltmeter fail. Either the grounds to both devices are being interrupted by the insertion of the relay or the relay is inserting its coil resistance into the accessory circuit after the ignition switch. Most of the battery voltage will be dropped across the relay coil with little left to operate the voltmeter or power the headlights, so they will appear dead. Someone may have the power to the voltmeter and headlights wired off one of the relay sockets. Check to make sure the ACC wire off the back of the ignition switch goes directly to the pink wires on the voltmeter / headlight circuit. Make sure the headlight ground wires go DIRECTLY TO A CHASSIS GROUND - not thru hood hinges, etc. That's it for me this morning. Off to bed to recoup from jet lag. And for those who demand entertainment instead of education from forum posts I respectfully submit this .......