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What else? I say we divide up Geno's collection among those who show up...

Bingo...now that's how it works.

Geno I don't think you understood Craig - ride "your" horses.

Not to add more junk to the thread but I like a good debate. I think the problem is not arching as an issue but rather corrosion. Most wire in our cars and horses will be copper stranded. When copper stranded starts to corrode it insulates the copper strands from each other and cause resistance / heat. Having experience in outdoor railroading. I have buried miles of wire in ground with and without conduit. I have seen copper wire turn green almost two feet into the insulation from moisture wicking its way up the insulation. This reaction was from extreme weather and climate conditions and not having properly tinned leads and sealed connectors. Even then , moisture finds its way in under ground. That being said, most all of our horse will never see the extreme condition needed to be met to cause this type of failure in the wire. Our connections are not weather proof and moisture has plenty of ways to find its way into our wiring harness but I never see major issues. On the other hand. I dont like to splice wires but I believe the pin prick of this tool would cause no foul play or damage in most applications. Unless you want to bury the tractor in the dirt for a few years..... Seal it with some liquid tape and rest at peace at night if you wish. Looking at it from a cars angle. If the wire is a brake light or fuel sending unit wiring under the frame in wet areas , I might opt to replace the wire instead of splicing the damaged area. Moisture and salt can reak havoc. My trailor wiring never fails me but I can bet you will not find crimp on connectors in my wiring. All soldered and heat shrink. I hate fussing with trailor lights and see way to many people year after year fighting this issue. Under the hood or interior . Sure poke away with your tool but 99% of the time the wiring harness is hidden under wiring loom or taped up anyway which still has you tearing the harness apart in the first place and poking along till you find it. My opinion, replace or run new wire and save me the shop labor. Rendering the use of the tool you speak of useless. In my opinion, any time I wish I had that tool in my box was when I wanted to test readings off of , lets say, a throttle position sensor while it was still on the car to determine if it needed replacing or not. And the plug was sealed up nice and tight and there is no way to get my meter probes anywhere near wires. Just my opinion. I think this tool has applications and is worth having around. For a horse, you can usually sneak the probes of your meter behind any plug, or fuze needed. Also no miles of wire found on the wheel horses, I just replace if there is an issue most of the time. For a quick fix , out comes the Weller solder station and heat shrink. never fails me. Kyle

Got back late Sunday night from a PA ad Jersey haul. Got to meet and go to lunch with Trouty Bob and KM3H Nick, it was totally awesome. Sandra is enjoying the wine Bob. We picked up a 50" sickle and snowmobile that Bob got for us in PA. We picked up a 4 wheel wagon, 1971 Toro Professional 76" reel mower, an old air lift jack, among other things in Jersey from my Wheel Horse dealer friend. The reel mower alone weighed almost 1,800 lbs so we couldn't bring home much more. Oh well, we'll have to make more trips. On the way back we got to meet Desko, very smart and professional young man I'll tell you. I wish more people were as hard working and nice as he is. He had a Yanmar 30HP diesel engine we picked up, it purrs like a kitten. Don't know what we'll do with it yet but we'll find something for it. Sandra also scored a bunch of Longaberger baskets at a yard sale in Jersey for $47, and more wine from Bob. She is liking the hunt even more since she's starting to get all this wine from everybody. First pic is Bob, Nick and me loading the snowmobile.

Geno.... I'd imagine your one of very few snowmobile owners in KY.... and that's probably about the only Wheel Horse snowmobile there!..... you know they only made 9 models.... and you got those nice shelves now..... just saying....

That barn is looking great Steve. I'll chime in on the electric service. I'd go as big as you can afford. We always wish we had a bigger more powerful ... I have a 200 amp service to my house with attached three car garage. In my barn I installed a 100 amp service that is fed from my 200 amp house service. Most of my electrical needs are served at the house and attached garage. I have maxed out my 200 amp service at the house now. But I'm able to provide electric for a couple of 240 V electric heat panels in the attached garage shop, a 220, 50 amp welder and a 220, 40 amp air compressor. I have some space left in the barn for future needs but here's what I'm currently set up for out there. Another 220, 50 amp welder. 240, 20 amp electric baseboard heat. 240, 30 amp forced air heat for the paint booth. Three 20 amp plug circuits. One 20 amp door opener circuit. Two 15 amp light circuits. One 15 amp plug circuits. As you can see, you can use up space on a panel pretty fast. Take your time, you only want to put in a service line once.

Good points there. The one thing I can not do is use solder. Most manufacturers will not allow it as a viable repair. I learned this through many years of warranty work as I do a lot of electrical for dealers on vehicles still under factory warranty. The only thing they will allow is a shrinkable butt connector. The connectors even come with any exterior pigtails. The problem with running a new wire is if you have to go from the engine compartment to the interior it is incredibly more time consuming than picking select areas in the harness and opening it up to narrow down the problem. Another big thing here also is time is money, I do this for a living and cost factors in and we all know we have to keep the customer happy. The next problem is protection of the new wire, as well as the sealing of it if you can get it into the interior at all without making a hole in the car. Finally, this repair if done by my shop will be guaranteed for life, a big thing to factor in when doing the repair. I don't like doing something a second time for free and putting the customer out. I have a neat little tool I'll try to get some pics of today. Doesn't work in every scenario though. It's a device that you plug into a circuit that broadcasts a radio frequency into the circuit. It has a wireless handheld receiver with arrows that guides you right to the problem. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned it, but even most electronic experts have never even heard of it. Must be the OCD again.

You may be living in there at some point. This barn looks awesome, and so far have pulled out all the stops.

That's just great! Now Geno wants one and will have to make more room in his shop!

Its mostly marketing hype. There are no clearly defined differences between the models and some of them changed over the years. the 500 series was only available with twin cylinder onan engines from 16 - 20hp and generally have more gauges and doodads. (although the 516H and 518H had a lower spec Hydro rear end (Eaton 700) with a manual lift that people tend to shy away from) 400 series runs from 12-18 hp and the 8 speeds usually had the 1.125" axles with 8 pinion diffs (though that isnt even always true) All of the hydro versions had the Eaton 1100 that I am aware of. the 300 series runs from 8hp-12hp and generally had the smaller 1" axles and 4 pinion diff (again, not always true). They were more the barebones tractors. Some had the Eaton 700 some had the 1100 (usually differentiated by an A for the 700 and an H for the 1100). Almost all models 12hp+ were available in hydro or manual. Confused yet? ALL of these models have the same frame and bodywork (except the hoods. some had louvers, some did not, and the 520 was slightly different cutout for a "warning light pod" I think i got most of that right.

thanks, I want to stick it under the hood of the tractor to keep the squirrels from making a nest.

Piercing the wire will not cause a voltage drop.

I was cruising Craig's list today checking out my usual categories and came across this. Called the guy and he told me it was from the estate of the original owner who was an old rich guy who bought things and either never used them or barely used them. Everything is original including the paint. Heck looks like the original grease is still in place. Steve has been trying to get to get into the old boat and engines and for $100 including the stand I couldn't resist. I figured if I don't end up keeping it I could always sell it to Steve or Ken but in this condition I may just keep it. I'm sure Ken will tell me what I have and whats it worth.

No Gary, if I won the lottery I would buy an old abandoned Wal-Mart building for a horse barn.

Pics after clean up. I might start some more topics on these so I can put up more pics of each, they are in really nice shape.

Sure looks it to me Mike, heavy suckers. I've had them on quite a few cars backs in the day. I had a real nice black 79 Z-28 that had a built 327 Vette motor in it with headers and Cherry Bombs. When you got into it, WICKED LOUD. I can remember late one Friday night me and a buddy were doing donuts around a light pole in the Caldor parking lot for what seemed like 5 minutes with that 327 wide open most of the time. What can I say, It seemed like the right thing to do at the time. A Brookfield cop showed up and told me he heard this evil sound from well over a mile away and just followed the noise until he found me at the end of it. He told me that was enough for now and sent me on my way! And that is my Cherry Bomb fondest memory... By the way, cool tractor but unsupported that is a pretty heavy muffler...

Power Probe makes on, works nice

I have a bad feeling! Yoko Ono destroyed the Beatles! I don't want to be responsible for bringing down RS and WH collecting with classic tractors wearing galvanized stacks, all top heavy and leaning to the left! On a serious note...It's been too cold here to paint anything so it remains shiny! More leafs await it this weekend! That may do it for the season. We are suppose to hit 60+ this weekend and early next week so it will be flat black and maybe it will look a little better.

100 Amp it is then !! I trust my cuz !! I have NO plans on running electric heat, furnace etc out there. I bought a wood stove and the proper vent pipe. I put some $ into that set up but I have to tell you that after almost losing the "survivor" barn last winter to a wood stove fire I an not taking ANY short cuts on this install.

You sound like a youngster who walked into a new car showroom and just spotted a 1969 Mustang Fastback with 2000 miles on it and a 460 V8 full house engine. Don't be enamored with the glitter of that machine. The worth of something is always an individual thing. He will never sell it at that price. I don't see how a machine with over 345 hours on it can be flawless. Hour meters are cheap and used ones are available. I have at least four of them in my shop. A good car detailer can work wonders on anything with paint on it using a top grade polish and rubbing compound. All you have to do is a little research on this forum to find the how some of our members have worked wonders on an old machine. That 417-8 of Kens is one beautiful machine and I don't care how nice the other one is, if Ken owned it it is for all intents and purposes 100 percent better for everything you could possibly ask it to do that the other one. Worth more money to. As for the bagging of leaves, There are baggers available. In short, Don't buy it!

100 amp will be plenty would never steer you wrong cuz

Well ... I gotta say I love the county I'm in ... they really just don't care..haha I called when I finished out the inside and they only wanted to know if I was going to live in it. Said since I wasn't...they didn't care -

The wife and I took arandom day trip to southern Ohio on Saturday. We were just stopping at anything that caught our eye. A sign on the interstate said BIg Muskie Bucket. This is what is left of the worlds largest drag line. This is a picture of a picture of Big Muskie next to a normal steam shovel Side view. Me in the bucket for size comparison. I am 5'9" for reference. A close up of one of the links in the chain.

Just made it home from my procedure in Columbus. Everything went well. The cancer hasn't spread into the lymph nodes, which is great! I have to go back for a CT scan on the 30th, so they can make sure there isn't any in any other part of my body. If that turns out well, they are going to do chemotherapy to try and shrink the tumor somewhat, and then do surgery to remove it. That's where I am now guys...will keep you posted. Dom... :-)

to I agree with Glenn, we need a 5xi club.

My 1977 had a 1/2" bar that slid through a trunnion. They would get bent and hang up. Wheel Horse changed to the chain and eye hook I believe in 1978 for the mower lift. I'm not sure if the solid lift bar came with the blade or was an option.

If the relatively soft woodruff key is damaging your chisel, I think I would not buy that brand of chisel again.

What if you "add on" to the little shed?

Ken...yep, they're out there. Here's one where I grew up.... and this was the second one that they built when I was a kid.... The first one they abandoned for this one became a Big R. This one got abandoned when they upgraded to the new Super Wal-Mart you see in the background on the right side of the pic!

It should be illegal for a man to have that much fun! Nice haul Gene, I like the four wheel trailer.

Crappy gas is my best guess

Thanks for the early morning laugh.

That's what your supposed to do. Who wants to drive around in a beat up jalopy when you could be cruising in a Cadillac. Few hours of work and that looks awesome. I'm with Ken!

Depending on how far he has to install the feed, that could add up fast. I think since you arent running a full time shop you will be fine. One guy (or even a few) can only run so many things at once. If you need full electric heat you may want to consider a 200 but I doubt its necessary. -an electrician's son P.S. I have a 200amp for my whole house and used to have full electric heat, stove, oven, etc... never had a problem. Now that we changed over to gas heat though it is nice having my own 90amp panel out in the garage

Battery at rest was 12.61 volts. Battery running was 12.66 volts. Appears to be no charging what so every going on there. The .06 of a volt could just be interference. Also make sure the engine is above idle. Next test would be stator out put voltage with meter set to AC.

You got it. Only problem is a lot of manufacturers don't stick to the guidelines, a lot of times thay are smaller than the listed size.

The shipping weight for the hitch was 55 pounds. He does make a rather robust product! I am figuring on this tractor being almost 1,800 pounds to blow snow.

No actually you would do a voltage drop test on the circuit and then go from there. You can always get a connection at the start and end of the circuit by back probing.

Ken- You are SO predictable !! You buy a rusty horse and make it look like new...! Great work for sure.

Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan St., Ohio St. This week's "Basement Special".. The Cheeseburger Stuffed Donut!!

which would have some meaning if they kept from changing their recommendations every other week !

Looks tough. I like it, use the tins you've got... and make it earn it's keep.

Art Arfons would be proud. I like it.

I found these bass caps in the U.P. And this one in a creek! Thread was Hijacked... Sorry Glenn.. Im done now

Perfect for cleaning the house when the wife is away!

All that stuff never happens in the Mid-West...it seems like it always happens out east. All of our kids are Campbells' kids....bright shinny faces and rosy cheeks...homework done...rooms cleaned...and asking, "do you need any help with anything Dad" ??

What do you do... eat, meet, greet, oh...and ride your horses... what else?

Got the C81 running today and thought I would park it next to the roadster for a height comparison. I'm liking it!

500 hours on the 1993 - 314 Jackhammer. I still have a C-121 and tiller out at the vegetable garden that needs to come home. And I have a 704 project I am going to start next Spring!