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We challenged my daughter to read a bunch of books over the summer and told her if she did that we'd take her to Chicago to the museums. She made it, so we made the drive up there this weekend to visit the Field Museum and Musuem of Science and Industry. She really wanted to see Sue, the T-Rex on display at the Field Musuem: But there was one heck of a surprise in store for us. Now, Chicago is a big place with millions of people so I didn't expect to run into anyone we knew. Let alone someone from this forum... None other than Stevasuarus from Elgin was there! What are the chances?! Steve

Great year again at Pioneer Power... The big show's double features were "Classic Tractors" meaning anything made before 1970, and "Vintage Snowmobiles". I thought the turnout for regular tractors/gas engines was a little weak, perhaps due to no specific brand feature. The snowmobiles however filled the feature building and they had to find space for the overflow in adjacent buildings. I think I heard they were expecting 125, and by Friday morning there were already 160 with more showing up all day. The Wheel Horse turnout was pretty good. I never took an actual count, and we were definitely down a few from other years, but we still had a strong showing. It's been interesting to watch how our presence at the show these last 7 years has begun to really draw out other Garden Tractor exhibitors. There were a few Wheel Horse items on the auction... none of which came home with club members. Not that prices were unreasonable... just no one felt the need to own them. Reportedly the D-250 brough $650. Supposedly ran and drove in (don't they all, right?), didn't start at auction. Lawn Ranger brought short money, but no one was particularly interested in it. Likewise with the little dump cart. A few faces.... Joebob ol550 TerryM (and son Andrew) prondzy (and wife/daughter) and shynon Rest of show pics... good turnout of horses and attachments. A few others mixed in here.

I haven't been good at posting pics of what we bring home but am trying to do better. Usually it's just the loaded trailer shots then we're off to get more. I already posted #1 (dads) this one is #23. Will do more as time allows. This is last Wednesday's find from Georgetown, IN, only about 1 1/2 hours away. We brought home a 417A with original WH cover, 2 extra wheels with lug tires, WH wheel weights, 48" deck, 48" plow, plow hookup on the tractor and an extra new mount, 50" mid mount grader blade, an EZ rake with an extra 3' x 5' leaf cart, a Brinley roller, and some extra parts and belts. This was all one owner and we got the manuals and original tags + such as well. Oh, and don't forget the 2 bottles of wine (last pic). I think we're going to keep this one as the snow blower tractor and put the cab on it we got from Don in MD and the snow blower we got from Glenn in Jersey. We had already restored the rear wheels before we took the pics.

Sometimes you draw the worst conclusions in your mind, then, when everything works out in your favor, you wonder why you got so worked up. Glad you found out that an honest mistake was acknowledged and corrected, plus you got to see the personal side of their business.

Are you sure the pin has not sheared and the holes are no longer aligned. On the Raider clutch I just repaired, I could see some movement between the shaft and lever when I applied torque, so I knew the pin had sheared even though there was enough friction to operate the clutch. So I had to tap the shaft out, then remove the three pcs of pin. When I put it back together, I added a set screw and a second pin. This placing of the pin near the OD of the shaft increases the shear area and the strength 2-4 X

Just bought a tall chute blower and a snow plow today. Blower is missing the flag and the plow is missing the operating lever. Otherwise excellent condition. $100 for the pair.

Hey I got it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE

YO GENE,,,dont worry,,,you will be corrected if wrong. and maybe sent to bed with no dinner. lol Glenn

Yea, he looks a little small to be Steveasaurus. Maybe a Minisaurus.

Just returned from the shop...all is well (I hope) . The folks there couldn't have been nicer and more apologetic. Not sure what the knocking problem is but are going in to find out and fix it. The guys even took me to they're home to see their many tractors and other equipment. They just finished restoring a small john deere , don't know the model, but it was absolutely perfect, and showed me another one that they completed last year, it also was perfect, so I completely trust them to take care of my horse. I'll keep you all posted.

I added wheels to mine - glad I did, has come in handy. After using 2-3 different vacuum systems and not being completely satisfied, I finally got a dedicated blast cabinet vacuum system from Enco, it REALLY works! Like HF Enco often offers % off codes and I grabbed a %20 and free ship, and that eased the cost. I also added a switch to control the vac and light. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=803-0027 Dust --- theres probably gonna be a certain amount of dust, just the nature of the beast. As mentioned, pay careful attention on assy and use caulk or weather stripping on any possible weak areas. For instance, when you open the door there always fallout from build up at the door edge. I have very little leakage on mine, but still, on cleaning the glass and after a cleaning session there will usually be a bit of dust on the glass. I tried using the window protectors and found that with the somewhat cloudy view through them and them further hazing so quickly that I just gave up on them, you also have to have the inside glass very clean or they wont stick. After using the cabinet for as long as I have, I have learned to keep the object being cleaned and the gun positioned to get the best angle away from the glass, if pointed for just a brief time the glass will badly haze. I can usually get quite a good life from a glass. I just buy 3-4 replacement glass at a time and change it out.

Back in December I picked up a WH 876 from a guy who had had moved to NC from NJ. It was used for snow duty up north, but didn't get much use if any down here. Not sure how long it was in the barn, but it was a long time. I plan to use it for mowing duty because my yard has a lot of tight turns. I think the hydro and short frame combo will be fun to mow with. Anyways, after wrapping up some other projects this spring, I started messing with the ol' short frame today. I removed the carb, and was really surprised at how clean it looked! removed the needles, bowl, float, and needle looked great. So I did a quick clean on the float and bowl and put it back together. Next I took the fuel pump off. I knew it was not working when the tractor last ran because the old fuel line had bypassed the fuel pump. What I was not expecting was to see the arm missing from the fuel pump. Not being familiar with these fuel pumps, I am not sure if there are any other parts missing from this side of the pump, I hope they are not inside the engine block.... After taking it apart, I found there to be some corrosion on the inside, but it didn't look too bad. it did seem to have all of the internal parts. Anyways, The next step is to either get a new fuel pump from napa, or try to find a cheap used pump and make a franken-pump. After that I'll change the oil in the engine and hydro and hopefully get 'er crunked up!

Did you have to buy the wine for your wife before she would let you buy another one ! Nice find

Craig, you can buy the good stuff and it will do the job fine and probably last forever if you treat them right. heres something that I've had success with. search for any tool surplus stores nearby. i have one close that the owner buys lots of tools from the local arsenal when they have past there useable life or they retool for some reason. usually there is nothing wrong with most of them and you can pick up some very nice professionally made tooling very cheap. i buy odd taps, reamers, bits etc and have managed to find quite a few punches and drifts for the sort of thing you are having problems with. i also have a nice older craftsman punch set that is still in excellent condition that i have looked after and not abused. the quality of the material the tool is made from is important. sometimes starting to remove a pin like you are doing is better with a shorter punch to jolt it loose and then use a longer one to remove it. the longer thin ones tend to bend or bow when they are beat hard. Jims idea has worked for me in the past too. sometimes you just know after the first blow that it aint going to come out and you need to drill it out of there!!!!!

Proper sized end mill in a drill. Works every time! Drill through it and put in a new one when ready.

Just trying to imagine my reaction... to spending $80, and this happening again.

As mentioned above, I used a kit from TP Tools that supplies you with all the hardware. It came with plans to build the cabinet with plywood. I modified the plans to a larger unit. Cabinet measures 24" high, 30" deep and 60" wide.

No need... bring a coffee can. Chock full O'nuts!

Shiny new heart for the old Kohler 16 hp! It works perfectly and it was inexpensive. $52 from amazon

There's a bathroom on the right?

I've got a really used one! CHEAP! It's even clean on the inside!

OK, Yes I have the OEM wheels. Thanks and BTW, What a gorgeous job you have done! Just incredible. Rob

Oh, sorry Jason, i got distracted there for a minute...... Nice pics on the show, thanks for posting them....... (i know its a tall order, but you could have tried to get him to smile just a little bit...)

I quit smoking to save money....... Then I bought a Wheel Horse. I call it transfer of adiction hahaha

It was him. You guys just don't recognize him without his "coffee" mug.

Theroundhousernr, That is some great info. My little Raider has a 16hp transplant. It's more than enough power. But as with my chopper (I made 7.5" forward controls so I could fit) the little guy is lacking a little in the leg room department. My shin gets abused by the pto engagement lever. I love this little raider, and I love tinkering on it so it's staying. plus the lil woman likes it. I am jsut preping for future purchases. I dont really mind the rareness of a second tractor, I think it'd be fun to have the oddball wheel horses

Lots of room on the GT14. I really like the way I sit on mine. Its a different animal then the C series tractors. It was wheel horses step into bigger estate tractors. Heavy son of a gun. Close to 1000 pounds with out me on it. Then the D series came along to fill that void. Once again most all attachments are different. Only made for about 3 years also. It seems there Is a trend that formed based on wheel horse "bigger" garden tractors. Short production runs upon many models over the years. I guess bigger is not always better...... If you want something " bigger " ( notice the quotes ). Go for a twin cylinder wheel horse or the big 16hp one lunger , whether it be Kohler or Onan. Same ole long frame but bigger grunt under the hood, heavier axles in the rear , different seating arrangement. The 520's newer then 91 would be found with swept forward front axle and heavier 1 inch spindles. See..... "bigger" but not really. Then again , I have a friend that bought a C81 new, way back when. Mows 20 yards and a ball field with a 48 inch deck for 18 years. He will put that same tractor up against any big twin and out pull you any time. The big twins are wasted HP in his opinion. The gearing on the wheel horse transmission really go along way as far as torq. Only thing you really need the big power for is the big 60 inch deck and the two stage blower. Sorry for the long post but I guess you can gather. The bigger odd ball series wheel horses where never a big hit due to the market, demand , or whatever. So less parts and a little harder to find attachments for. If you want to pony up the money and go for something like that. By all means post pictures when you pick one up. Plenty of us do. Just keep in mind down time when you need parts a so on... or even better , have a back up for you back up as they say. As far as the long frame tractors, they where pretty much the same through out the years. Just different tin , motor and transmissions. This is one of my favorite things about wheel horse. I can take an attachment from the late 70's and it will still fit my 1989 520. Very smart business in my opinion. Rant over

Great find , I just picked up a 417A two weeks ago too but it has a differential problem . I will have to get some input when the time comes. Again Nice find, my wife would sell me if I went much more than the 8 I have now.

when it comes to size don't forget about the C195

Nice score

23? Is that all...... Just wondering if there is a record to be beat that I am unaware of ??? If so , I want in on it. I am on the hunt for a 417 as well. Nice find. Looks great as far as cosmetics go.

Now there's a happy face!!!!!!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't believe it will bother a thing. There's an inch difference between the tires (1/2 inch per side) like I said don't for see any problems at all

Like to see a photo of that setup.

If you want a cheaper seat don't plan on much seat time. A real cheap seat won't have much padding in the Fitz M'Tush area.

I'm 6' and it's a toss up between the 1054 and the little 68 Lawn Ranger. Why on Earth does the Lawn ranger have so much legroom?

Well, in short, I cut grass with the 876 today! Earlier this week I got the transmission drained, new filter put on, and the new drive belt installed. I am really pleased with how easy it was to install the drive belt. Gotta love a simple machine! On my first drive, I was surpised with the lack of power that I had, but then I realized I didn’t have the tow valve screwed in all the way, haha. Also, I had it in my head that I was going to be using the deck I got from Craig at the PA show (it was the deck that came on his 875 from Scott). But when I got ready to transfer the cast iron spindle holder from the bottom of one of my parts decks, I realized that the deck I got from Craig was a 36â€. I was excited, and disappointed at the same time, haha. I ended up making one of the parts decks work. I was supprised at how well the mower cut! I guess I wasn’t expecting a 48 year old lawn mower to cut as well as it did. The two things I am still a little concerned with is: 1) At full throttle seems to run the little kohler too fast. It just sounds like it is running at a really high RPM. And 2) I have to hold the control lever in order to keep it from increasing ground speed. I feel like I am always holding it back. If I let go of the speed control lever, the tractor accelerates to max speed. Out with the old and in with the new: A straw wrapped in 'merica duck tape made for quick fill of the transmission fluid. Since what came out of it was ATF, I figured I should just put ATF back into it. This is what the bottom of the deck looks like. I am planning to take the deck back off and POR15 it. just took this picture as a before type picture. The lift bar was bent so I had to help it back to its original shape with the pry bar. This is a post mowing shot. It was definitely an interesting experience driving this thing. As I mentioned before, I am going to have to figure out why the transmission is accelorating to full speed without me touching the lever.

Me? I'd call the shop and calmly ask... what the blank...you know what I'm sayin'? Ask 'em if they remember if they torqued the connecting rod bolts too?

Bob, it could be worse.. Of course this isn't just the postal service's fault, but it's Gov'mt related.

Not to hijack the thread, but can you post a picture of your hitch assembly on the 520HC that you have the Cyclone Rake attached to?

Did manage to get two of the wheels painted as well as a lot of other wheels...

Sure is... ;o)

There is another thing about the oil senders on these Onans, there were more than one which I found out once. I had an engine that was using quite a bit of oil and I had another P-220 and decided to change them. Swapped the engines and the first time I fired it up the oil light was blinking. So I pulled the cover off and low and behold there was a different sending unit than the other engine had. I ended up having to change the engine wire harness to get the light to turn off along with the sending unit. Just saying there is a difference between years.

you may have a sender/ light problem (i.e. not calibrated properly) but boomer touched on another area you should at least look at if the sender doesn't fix the problem. the relief valve limits oil pressure to about 20 psi by a spring and valve. if the spring is weak, missing or the valve is stuck slightly open you might not have enough oil pressure when the oil pump is turning slower at idle and lower mid rpm. you say the oil pressure light goes out at higher rpm, maybe then the pump is turning high enough to get the pressure up to where the sender isn't reading low and flashing the light. this also brings up a scenario where the pump maybe worn enough, or bearing clearances in the engine are excessive, and the pump just isn't able to supply enough oil pressure to make the light go out at the lower rpms. only way to know for sure what the pressure is at all rpm is to hook up a known good (accurate) mechanical oil pressure gauge and run the engine. the mechanical gauges are cheap enough, i have one i picked up for $10 from the local farm store, just a small length of oil pressure hose, hook it up in place of the sender, (or t it if you want to see at what point the sender is working) zip tie the gauge to the tractor and run it.

Do you have the tractor's model number? If I remember correctly the oil pressure switch also controls the hourmeter. Looking at the correct wiring diagram should confirm this. Garry

looks like Don came through with a pic. just to be clear, when you turn the ignition on it should blink, then it should go out when the engine starts and is running....... if it continues to blink either you have no oil pressure or bad sender etc....

The wife and I had a great time as well. Will definitely be back again, hopefully with the worker ready to plow. We bailed out of there after the raffle/flood. For the second time now at a show someone has offered to buy the wife's little Lawn Ranger. I didn't think I did that good of a job on it, must just be because it's a Ranger??? The only picture I remembered to take..

I had a blast at the Meet and Greet today, a big crowd and lots of tractors. Thanks to Scott, the entire Mehlberg family, Mike Biser and everyone else that helped put this on. Well Done! Here's a few pics.