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We challenged my daughter to read a bunch of books over the summer and told her if she did that we'd take her to Chicago to the museums. She made it, so we made the drive up there this weekend to visit the Field Museum and Musuem of Science and Industry. She really wanted to see Sue, the T-Rex on display at the Field Musuem: But there was one heck of a surprise in store for us. Now, Chicago is a big place with millions of people so I didn't expect to run into anyone we knew. Let alone someone from this forum... None other than Stevasuarus from Elgin was there! What are the chances?! Steve

Great year again at Pioneer Power... The big show's double features were "Classic Tractors" meaning anything made before 1970, and "Vintage Snowmobiles". I thought the turnout for regular tractors/gas engines was a little weak, perhaps due to no specific brand feature. The snowmobiles however filled the feature building and they had to find space for the overflow in adjacent buildings. I think I heard they were expecting 125, and by Friday morning there were already 160 with more showing up all day. The Wheel Horse turnout was pretty good. I never took an actual count, and we were definitely down a few from other years, but we still had a strong showing. It's been interesting to watch how our presence at the show these last 7 years has begun to really draw out other Garden Tractor exhibitors. There were a few Wheel Horse items on the auction... none of which came home with club members. Not that prices were unreasonable... just no one felt the need to own them. Reportedly the D-250 brough $650. Supposedly ran and drove in (don't they all, right?), didn't start at auction. Lawn Ranger brought short money, but no one was particularly interested in it. Likewise with the little dump cart. A few faces.... Joebob ol550 TerryM (and son Andrew) prondzy (and wife/daughter) and shynon Rest of show pics... good turnout of horses and attachments. A few others mixed in here.

I haven't been good at posting pics of what we bring home but am trying to do better. Usually it's just the loaded trailer shots then we're off to get more. I already posted #1 (dads) this one is #23. Will do more as time allows. This is last Wednesday's find from Georgetown, IN, only about 1 1/2 hours away. We brought home a 417A with original WH cover, 2 extra wheels with lug tires, WH wheel weights, 48" deck, 48" plow, plow hookup on the tractor and an extra new mount, 50" mid mount grader blade, an EZ rake with an extra 3' x 5' leaf cart, a Brinley roller, and some extra parts and belts. This was all one owner and we got the manuals and original tags + such as well. Oh, and don't forget the 2 bottles of wine (last pic). I think we're going to keep this one as the snow blower tractor and put the cab on it we got from Don in MD and the snow blower we got from Glenn in Jersey. We had already restored the rear wheels before we took the pics.

Sometimes you draw the worst conclusions in your mind, then, when everything works out in your favor, you wonder why you got so worked up. Glad you found out that an honest mistake was acknowledged and corrected, plus you got to see the personal side of their business.

Are you sure the pin has not sheared and the holes are no longer aligned. On the Raider clutch I just repaired, I could see some movement between the shaft and lever when I applied torque, so I knew the pin had sheared even though there was enough friction to operate the clutch. So I had to tap the shaft out, then remove the three pcs of pin. When I put it back together, I added a set screw and a second pin. This placing of the pin near the OD of the shaft increases the shear area and the strength 2-4 X

Just bought a tall chute blower and a snow plow today. Blower is missing the flag and the plow is missing the operating lever. Otherwise excellent condition. $100 for the pair.

Hey I got it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE

YO GENE,,,dont worry,,,you will be corrected if wrong. and maybe sent to bed with no dinner. lol Glenn

Yea, he looks a little small to be Steveasaurus. Maybe a Minisaurus.

Just returned from the shop...all is well (I hope) . The folks there couldn't have been nicer and more apologetic. Not sure what the knocking problem is but are going in to find out and fix it. The guys even took me to they're home to see their many tractors and other equipment. They just finished restoring a small john deere , don't know the model, but it was absolutely perfect, and showed me another one that they completed last year, it also was perfect, so I completely trust them to take care of my horse. I'll keep you all posted.

I added wheels to mine - glad I did, has come in handy. After using 2-3 different vacuum systems and not being completely satisfied, I finally got a dedicated blast cabinet vacuum system from Enco, it REALLY works! Like HF Enco often offers % off codes and I grabbed a %20 and free ship, and that eased the cost. I also added a switch to control the vac and light. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=803-0027 Dust --- theres probably gonna be a certain amount of dust, just the nature of the beast. As mentioned, pay careful attention on assy and use caulk or weather stripping on any possible weak areas. For instance, when you open the door there always fallout from build up at the door edge. I have very little leakage on mine, but still, on cleaning the glass and after a cleaning session there will usually be a bit of dust on the glass. I tried using the window protectors and found that with the somewhat cloudy view through them and them further hazing so quickly that I just gave up on them, you also have to have the inside glass very clean or they wont stick. After using the cabinet for as long as I have, I have learned to keep the object being cleaned and the gun positioned to get the best angle away from the glass, if pointed for just a brief time the glass will badly haze. I can usually get quite a good life from a glass. I just buy 3-4 replacement glass at a time and change it out.

Well guys, just another update.. Changed the oil, cleaned the spark plug and threw it on the charger. Put alot of elbow grease into it and rebuilt the plow linkage and greased her up nice. And now for the pictures you always want.

Some jobs, in my opinion, require the "GOOD STUFF". There was another thread that talked about electrical tools. Air Force never cut corners when it came to tools that had anything to do with signal, current, amp,. volt. ect...flow. That job there Craig, needs the good stuff.!

We just get too excited sometimes.

I'll bet that: (1) Your grass is a little high. (Like all of ours is before we mow this year)! (2) Your mowing in 3rd or 2nd gear and not slowing down when you make the turn. Next time you mow, run it fast on the straight stretches but slow it way down on the turn then look at your quality of cut. I'll bet it is much better. These are garden tractors and not specifically designed for just mowing. (Ever notice why your neighbor's Crapsman's mower deck sounds like an airplane propeller)? You can fine tune the deck and make the blades sharp as a knife but if you take turns fast while mowing, it will leave a strip of grass each time.

Yeah boy... bring on that sweeeeeeeeet O/T.

I made a pivot bar that slides in a U-block. Its attached the lift chain from the pivot arm that's controlled by the hydraulics. The driveshaft was in the way so I moved the gearbox, shaft and pulley over 1". The gearbox that came with the sickle bar was worn out inside (gear and pinion). I found a NOS gearbox for a Ford 2-stage thrower. Exact same gearbox except the output shaft splines were different. So I had to make the first half of the driveshaft. You can tell by the new paint in the photo. The whole unit pivots around the mounting pipe that hangs from the tractors front pivot arm to the rear axle hanger.

Carbs can make a big difference on these old tractors, looks nice.

Martin.... that might just be his happy face. We saw a different one later that definitely wasn't!

Thanks for the pics, Jason. Looks like another good show.

And that is why so many of us own them

Better looking than when I saw him in June! Then there is the famous line from Treasure of the Trans Ole' Latte. "Socks! We don't need no stinking socks!!!"

You will love that great looking tractor! I love mine and that was before I got the engine rebuilt!

I have a large HF one with the doors on each end, wheels on it, and the vac made for it. I've used it a lot for 20 years and it still works great. The blaster is a Central Pneumatic 47603 and the dust collector is a Central Machinery 02448. Well I just looked on HF and it looks like they don't have these anymore. You may search the numbers and find them somewhere else though.

I hear ya! When I was cutting grass I was reminded of when my sister took riding lessons. They always told her not to run back to the barn because that is a bad habit for the horse to have. By the way, I cut the grass with one of the 3 decks you sold me!

when it comes to size don't forget about the C195

That's a beautiful Geno but I just gotta ask, did those 2 bottles of wine come with it?

for the reply Joe. That increases my confidence in my tranny. It is working fine with no noise when driving in a tight circle where the spring would have to be sliding on he pinions. I still want to lift both wheels and check for noise with it in gear and rotating one wheel. It was quite nasty when I did this before flushing a couple times and filling with new 90Wt oil. Then when I saw that hub had been moved in about 2" on the axle, I just got a little nervous that there may have been a problem inside.

Mike, The 523Dxi that I recently bought has 23X8.50-12 Ags on it . The PO must have had another brand tractor before or picked them up used as the offset is not WH. They are just to the outside of the fender. It hasn't made any difference - and yes, turfs do provide a softer ride. Why don't you swap around a set of tires from one of you other tractors to try it out. When I need new rears, I intend to try the Kenda Terra Trac (a bit cheaper) or Carlisle All Trail. I believe that Simplicity puts the Kenda Terra Trac on their 4WD Pestige if you want to see them on a tractor. For what it is worth, I like the Kenda turfs better on my 520xi than the Titan turfs that are on the other two. John

Duke, where are you hiding? I bet your having a rough time with the picks aren't you? That Appl. State games got you all up in arms and you just don't know what to do. You've got my number call me and I'll walk you thru it. Call The Dino he's always open for Advice. Where are you at? You've only got three more days. What's the cutoff time Steve 6pm Thursday evening? All of you other guys jump in here also, I think everyone that plays has a pretty good time.

Looking good James! Hey, now we need a pic of you on the tractor. Lets see what a tall frame driver looks like on a short frame tractor!!!

Mike, I am by a far shot any expert on this thread. But in my opinion what could it hurt? I will follow this to see how others chime in. Glenn

i think having to buy 15 seats is a tall order in anyones book. why not just get a few at a time and when funds allow buy a few more? if you get 15 cheap seats for 15 tractors you will have 15 tractors that are uncomfortable and not one will you want to spend any time on. are you buying seats just so each tractor has a 'new' seat on it to look at, or are you buying seats to make them more enjoyable to ride? comfort is what i am after especially for the ones i really want to spend time on. and while i am always looking for a bargain, the seat i mentioned above is my bare minimum in terms of comfort. the seat i put on my latest 416 was near $100.00 but every time i sit on that seat, i don't feel like i ever want to get off it. the bare minimum seat, I'm done within 20 minutes........ that v-3500 seat is a bargain right now at $34.00 (with shipping 1 is $44.00) the more you buy the more break you get on shipping, that deal would be hard for me to pass up.

I believe I will take the chance and try one. I think I can mount it on wheels or a dolly and roll it out of the shop when I use it. I have a large compressor and plenty of air so that should not be a problem. I also have two shop vacs a large one and smaller one so that won't be a problem either. As for the sealing I will either use calk or maybe rubber strips. Do you think rubber insulating strips would work. I have plenty of 20% coupons so I will watch for the next sale. Thanks for your comments.

You set the points first to .020" on the high point of the cam. Then rotate the assembly to get the points to start opening at the specified piston location. A self-powered test light or ohmmeter will show you when they start to open. Garry

Heh Heh Heh, easier to replace a wife than a good Wheel Horse....

I dont know that I can be considered a collector "yet". But I am trying to find a few more and every attachment I can see myself using. But as to why? [emoji12] lol I have no Idea!!! Just seems like I should!

Haha... I know right.. the garage.. The best thing though, I no longer have a wife telling me I have to do it. Just new forum friends! It never ends! And great Idea.. I do have the original manual for her too and it seems to have a great breakdown of everything. But I still plan on taking pictures of everything. And I also plan on replacing every nut, bolt, pin and rod. I am pretty lucky really. My Dad is a Master Tool and Die maker, so I have no limitations (other than his time, which is tough to get sometimes) to any small part that may need to be repaired or fabricated. Perfect Idea. Yeah your right, there really isn't and dents or anything, just a bit rusty. So I will start with pictures and some light body work just to see if we can get the red out of her.. I appreciate it so much! Thank You guys!! I will post pictures every bit of the way if you would like. AJ

Wellcome to the craziness. NICE 1ST TRACTOR. You will soon find out what I mean. Lol Thanks for the pics and best of luck. Glenn

A long overdue shot of my mug with my new Red Square hat that I won in JimD's contest.I know I'm not pretty but the hat looks good.Thanks again Jim for the hat and Karl for shipping it.

You did put 30w oil in it right? Did you put an Onan filter in it or an aftermarket? Just saying if the oil pressure was OK before you changed oil, and now you have a blinking light, I would think something you did caused the problem. I would suspect the replacement oil filter first before I started taking things apart. Over diagnosing a problem is a common mistake you know?

Here is the wiring diagram Garry

welderdude the onan P 16 18 and 20 hp will usually open the relief valve at about 20 PSI. thank you. boomer. ( the used onan engine parts guy )

the air filter sensor hose should connect to the "firewall" to the right of the battery. small nipple on the sensor always breaks off and it may still be in the end of the hose. bad picture sorry!

welcome to the forum... on all the Onan twins the oil light usually flashes with no oil pressure. not sure at what psi low oil pressure it would flash. its probably in the manual, i will check on that. was the engine running when it was flashing? i think the hose running from the air cleaner is for a warning light for dirty air cleaner element. the 520 had a vacuum gauge but i think that would be read from below the carb throttle blade.

whats in the coffee mug steve?

I recorded some video but have a heck of a time embedding here. I figured it out so take a look. It just does not get any better than this. What a great day. Thanks Mehlberg family. http://youtu.be/4gV-3SFUpnA

How can you not have a great time. Got to meet Octfst, 55rj35jr, Waynen, kc9kas and a few others. Martin showed up and his wife Jeanine...she kept me in Blood Marys with olives stuffed with blue cheese, DClark showed up and gave me his raffle tickets to hold for him (as he had to leave when the raffle was getting started)...he won 4 times...I won 3...felt like I was wearing a path in the floor up to the goodie table. Jake Kuhn won at least 4 or 5 times (he really gets excited when they call his number). IndyWH decided to make the trip (glad he did, it was good to see him again) and he won the Straight from the Horses Mouth book, Shorts (Paul) and his wife made the trip...these two people are just incredible. Lonny and Eric, Brrly1, Racinfool40 (mike), Jake's dad (Doug) , the McNeals...just would not be a show with out these guys...Scott and his dad Dave.... Vinylguy (Terry) and his wife Lola...a special thanks to Terry ..all just excellent people and an absolute pleasure to be around. If I missed anyone, it is not intentional. thanks to all

well jake, i dont have a big load like you, but were all ready to go. just taking kents 875 this year. long trip and will be nice just to have one in the back of the truck and not be pulling a whole bunch of them...... spent a good hour cleaning the jacksonville dust off the 875 tonight and snapped a few......

Well, I was going to copy my response to that same question over at another forum, then I realized you're the same person who asked it. A three bolt puller will be fine. I've also heard that a harmonic balancer puller will work just fine too. I really recommend if you have access to a welder or a friend with one, you try that solution I gave you. Works like butter.