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OK everybody, here are the pics! Didn't get them posted yesterday due to having to work overtime. I hope you enjoy them.

Here are a few more pictures of the Sycamore Show from my I phone. Water Tank for the Steam Tractors

All 3 tecumseh carbs I have in my parts stash have 10-32 screws to hold the air cleaner on, 1//2" long should be ample.

Well my stepmom called me and said if I wanted the rest of my dad's tractors, come get them. So needless to say you know what I did this afternoon. I know I got a 312-8 with a magnum 12 in it, think I got a c81 and not sure on the last one. It has a k241 in it. Not sure if any of the motors are original. Try to get better pics later. Ran out of light.

Get it hot, run it for at least 20 min to 30 min just warming up. Then find a tree, light pole or any immovable object. Bring motor up to power, then engage drive. If tires spin you should have a good trans. If it sits there and groans and doesn't do anything, run run run the opposite direction/ Chains look like four or six link. I'd lose those

Tires didn't look all that bad. New ones are pricey, As other have stated how does it run when heated up? Get her hot then try to push some dirt around. You are buying a basic snowplow tractor what is that worth to you? Ds are not the most efficient or easiest to use device if you want to cut grass...plus a deck will cost you more $$$. I would stay closer to 500.

Pics will be coming this week. Don't worry. Today I finally found the elusive "M16 Magnum Powered" Wheel Horse 416-8. I have been looking for one of these for several years now. My other 416-8 is "K" powered. I know basically the K's and the M's are the same powerplant but I really really wanted a Magnum. This one came with a 42" SD deck, trailer hitch, tiller bracket, and lift system for a tiller or plow. There are 748 hours showing on a working hour meter. Also has a new battery. It starts right up and runs good hot or cold. I am feeling very good tonight about this purchase. The seat has seen much better days (but then again so have I). Next I bought a non running 1995 312 Hydro. Why its not running I could not tell you. Its all together except for the wiring harness. The wiring harness has been hacked on by someone who had no idea what they were doing. There are a little over 900 hours showing on the meter. I'm looking forward to seeing if the engine will run. I would not think there is a problem with the hydro as the only thing someone was working on was the wiring. I'll give an update on that one later. I know, I know you guys want pics. Well first I have to go back to the previous owner's house tomorrow and pick up the 312. Its bought and paid for but my trailer will only haul one at a time. I'll take some pics and post them first of the week. But for now this is what I have to report. I will be changing the engine oil in the 416 tomorrow. Getting rid of the whatever oil and giving it some good oid Lubrication Engineers 30w.

Thats it! Wow,I paid less that half of what they are going for, for each set. Two sets were found at this years show.

Heres my commando 8 with the narrow frame plow on it ive moved lots of dirt gravel and snow with it

Ohhh yeah

I posted a picture of what I think is a very early model this morning. Could anyone tell me something about it from the picture? I'm not so good at this and I'm not sure where this mail actually will end up. Sorry but it's a cute little tractor and it runs great.

If you are using the plow for snow there is no need for weight if you are spreading dirt the weight will come in handy

Personally I find the weight of the plow itself is plenty. I would think all that added weight will just wear out the cutting edge quicker. Mike..........

I bought one of these a few years back. http://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/000/4/8/484-wheel-horse-lawn-ranger.html I am starting to do work to the engine and have found that it probably needs some type of new ignition. I also have been having trouble with the linkage for the carb. Question is should I just look for a replacement engine of some sort or rebuild this Tech that is there? I am sure a vert shaft engine shouldn't be too hard to come by. Thanks for any help. Jim

That team is cursed!

I'd really like to hear that CHIME PLOW play "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas".

The 60's tractors used frames like that with the older style hitch

Did some more work today. Gave it a third power wash. Then moved it up on my rolling work bench. I left the frame attached for now as I can manipulate the transmission easier this way. Built the bench so that I can sit on a roll around seat or have it at a good height when I stand. Makes it more comfortable for me. Less bending over and my back likes it better. Took some time to wire brush part of it. Had to quit early today as I have a must attend meeting at 6:00 PM.

I split your question out... and added your picture to your post. It's much easier to get a clean answer in your own topic rather than piggy-backed on another discussion.

Thanks Steve..I wouldn't even think about opening a tranny, but after watching your tutorial videos, I think I'm ready to try it.

Since i'm on vacation for the next two weeks I figure I'd better clean out the shop and garage. The shop was a disaster from the rush to get the C-160 done for the show. Seeing as my tractors live in my work shop they had to be the first things out before I could start. After having well over 60 different Wheel Horse/Pond tractors over the last 9 years I am down to just three. One from each of what I feel were the 3 best decades for the company. The 50's, 60's and 70's. And yes for those with the keen eyes that is a 61' NOS hood on my 58' RJ. The RJ's original hood is actually going to the local Tech school this year so they can fix the issues with the metal and will be placed back on the tractor when complete. I also picked up a K90 at this years show and plan on putting this tractor back to the way it left the factory. The 50's The 60's The 70's Also had out my other two toys because they needed to come out of the shop too. Not Wheel Horses but cool none the less!

Excellent videos, Steve, hope they will be pinned in trans.

I was sure that I had that one. Fixed now.

Should be like near 80...maybe high 70's this year. Mike, if there is any wild life on the course, they will know to stand in the middle of the fairway when I swing. That is the safest place.

One last 416 pic

Maybe you got it from me at lunch last week. There were 3 of them close to me on CL, 2-200's + a 180 with tons of attachments, 2 finish mowers, plows, decks, + more for 1500.00 They were on there a long time. Nice tractors but not common enough to get parts for and can be a pain in the butt to work on for sure. You aughtta see where they put the hydro.

These are some pics I found once. I couldn't mount one on mine as it has the easy ride seat. the seat spring tower uses the bolt holes and block the fans location.

Awesome work guys, my C-161 has a 103916 as I've borrowed that transmission for project bendy. This transmission will be rebuilt and become the front trans for bendy. I'm sure it's more than up to the job! Mark

I have a buddy with a D160 that he went through mechanically and it runs really nice. It needs paint etc and cannot sell it for $700 with no attachments. I would tell him to try and sell it on CL for what he wants and if it does not sell in a week or so then he should call you and you can talk. this way he "tried" to get his money for it (which he will not) and you both feel better if you agree on a price of around $750...

this show has had this GT problem for several yrs, and its one of the reason I don't attend it any more. The last time it came up big, the rumor was the Gt's wouldn't be allowed to plow. Its a shame, as the garden area had many entry's, and was getting bigger.

Sounds like you had a great day Van! I haven't had Waffle House in 15 yrs. I ate there everyday for a month while I was in McDonough, GA. Man, I miss Waffle House. Yes I really said that and I mean it. Lookin forward to the pics Van!

My grandson said he wanted to drive it.

PM sent. Thought the PM's were for the people that were not going to be there...sorry.

PM sent and thanks for all you do!

PM sent Scott.

There are more pictures, I just didn't want to put them all in the thread. You're welcome to view them here... http://s228.photobucket.com/user/jschahl/slideshow/MiscShows/Sycamore2014?sort=2 and for your listening enjoyment... Noon whistles from the steam show. (be sure to turn your volume up first so you can hear it)

is hilarious! Kinda like saying we might see some sunshine in Florida. Rob

Great pics of a great show Steve and Terry! David and I had a great time and enjoyed catching up with all the Red Square members in attendance. The Sycamore Show is as good as Steve says it is -that's for sure! I just got home after five days in northern Indiana and Illinois-but I need to get these posted! Here are a few of the pics I took at the show!

Took a few pics walking around the show. Lots to see..

Just when I thought about going. Maybe they need some of this or .

Thanks for the info Martin. I have that wiring diagram now but couldn't be sure until your post. As far as liking Onans...you're right, they're not my favorite engine in any way shape or form. I would have been a lot happier finding my Dad a 418. But this thing is in super shape even though it was so dirty. I replaced that molex connector today and she fired right up once fuel got to the bowl. I still think a Kohler 16 sounds better.....

These are the only pics I took. Steve and Terry relaxing on Friday.

Lola, I always find it hard to come up with the right words at times like these. Just know that our thoughts and prayers are with you and family at this time.

Being a "good winner" seems to be a lost art these days, thanks for building you son's character!

You sure your not his neighbor !

Lucky Boy! All smiles as it should be! You should be ashamed of yourself infecting the youngsters with Wheel Horse Addiction! My two sons have WHA too! Our 1st Horse (forget the model) was 'bout 40 years ago. We did own a few Cubs along the way, not bad. Not the big box thingys of today.

just watched the differential video, Steve. nicely done. i like the fact that you didn't edit it in anyway, it shows us through your work what to look out for and what problems we may come across while assembling. going to watch the others now!! so does this mean that you have now joined the hi/lo rebuilders club?

I think I'd better stop looking at the pictures now, I'm dribbling too much on the keyboard Fantastic build, love it

I would say that most of the problems with the techy carb and cleaning it and still not running right is the fact that you can not get to the place the carb clogs up just taking it apart and soaking it will not clean the low speed passage which is the place 90% of them clog up you have to remove a brass plug from the carb body to gain access there is a small metal rod in this passage also.with the bass plug removed you can get the metal rod out and use a pipe cleaner and spray carb cleaner on the passage way to clean it a fast check to tell if you have a clogged low speed passage is with the carb off the tractor remove the jets, bowl ,float, needle hold the carb body next you your ear and shake it up and down you should hear a clink of the small metal rod moving back and forth in it's passage way if it does not the passage way is clogged up Brian

Very cool, I bet you were so siked to finally see it outside, and get to start playing with it a little. Out of curiosity, were you guys making "vroom vroom" noises when you sat behind the wheel? lol In all seriousness though, it is quite astonishing to see this, and I really enjoy watching this unfold. Keep it up!