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OK everybody, here are the pics! Didn't get them posted yesterday due to having to work overtime. I hope you enjoy them.

Here are a few more pictures of the Sycamore Show from my I phone. Water Tank for the Steam Tractors

All 3 tecumseh carbs I have in my parts stash have 10-32 screws to hold the air cleaner on, 1//2" long should be ample.

Well my stepmom called me and said if I wanted the rest of my dad's tractors, come get them. So needless to say you know what I did this afternoon. I know I got a 312-8 with a magnum 12 in it, think I got a c81 and not sure on the last one. It has a k241 in it. Not sure if any of the motors are original. Try to get better pics later. Ran out of light.

Get it hot, run it for at least 20 min to 30 min just warming up. Then find a tree, light pole or any immovable object. Bring motor up to power, then engage drive. If tires spin you should have a good trans. If it sits there and groans and doesn't do anything, run run run the opposite direction/ Chains look like four or six link. I'd lose those

Tires didn't look all that bad. New ones are pricey, As other have stated how does it run when heated up? Get her hot then try to push some dirt around. You are buying a basic snowplow tractor what is that worth to you? Ds are not the most efficient or easiest to use device if you want to cut grass...plus a deck will cost you more $$$. I would stay closer to 500.

One thing I do have to say, Martin's 416 looks better in person that it does in his rebuild thread. Outstanding job Martin! I'd love to have that in my garage. I hear you were offering rides..... after I left.

Heres my commando 8 with the narrow frame plow on it ive moved lots of dirt gravel and snow with it

Ohhh yeah

I posted a picture of what I think is a very early model this morning. Could anyone tell me something about it from the picture? I'm not so good at this and I'm not sure where this mail actually will end up. Sorry but it's a cute little tractor and it runs great.

I bought one of these a few years back. http://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/000/4/8/484-wheel-horse-lawn-ranger.html I am starting to do work to the engine and have found that it probably needs some type of new ignition. I also have been having trouble with the linkage for the carb. Question is should I just look for a replacement engine of some sort or rebuild this Tech that is there? I am sure a vert shaft engine shouldn't be too hard to come by. Thanks for any help. Jim

That team is cursed!

Geno, you're starting to tick me off. Will you leave some red for other folks? Better yet, send some down here. I like the idea of the weights but the dangling would drive me even nuttier than I already am. I think those are old window counter weights. It amazes me how many uses those things have been used for.

I'd really like to hear that CHIME PLOW play "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas".

The 60's tractors used frames like that with the older style hitch

Did some more work today. Gave it a third power wash. Then moved it up on my rolling work bench. I left the frame attached for now as I can manipulate the transmission easier this way. Built the bench so that I can sit on a roll around seat or have it at a good height when I stand. Makes it more comfortable for me. Less bending over and my back likes it better. Took some time to wire brush part of it. Had to quit early today as I have a must attend meeting at 6:00 PM.

I split your question out... and added your picture to your post. It's much easier to get a clean answer in your own topic rather than piggy-backed on another discussion.

Thanks Steve..I wouldn't even think about opening a tranny, but after watching your tutorial videos, I think I'm ready to try it.

Since i'm on vacation for the next two weeks I figure I'd better clean out the shop and garage. The shop was a disaster from the rush to get the C-160 done for the show. Seeing as my tractors live in my work shop they had to be the first things out before I could start. After having well over 60 different Wheel Horse/Pond tractors over the last 9 years I am down to just three. One from each of what I feel were the 3 best decades for the company. The 50's, 60's and 70's. And yes for those with the keen eyes that is a 61' NOS hood on my 58' RJ. The RJ's original hood is actually going to the local Tech school this year so they can fix the issues with the metal and will be placed back on the tractor when complete. I also picked up a K90 at this years show and plan on putting this tractor back to the way it left the factory. The 50's The 60's The 70's Also had out my other two toys because they needed to come out of the shop too. Not Wheel Horses but cool none the less!

Excellent videos, Steve, hope they will be pinned in trans.

One last 416 pic

Van - looking good!

Maybe you got it from me at lunch last week. There were 3 of them close to me on CL, 2-200's + a 180 with tons of attachments, 2 finish mowers, plows, decks, + more for 1500.00 They were on there a long time. Nice tractors but not common enough to get parts for and can be a pain in the butt to work on for sure. You aughtta see where they put the hydro.

These are some pics I found once. I couldn't mount one on mine as it has the easy ride seat. the seat spring tower uses the bolt holes and block the fans location.

Heard we are in some sort of cycle. Farmers Alamanac says another just like last year is what I've been hearing. I think T town had almost 90" of white stuff last year. I believe we have had two or three days at 90 degrees in other words Yes, a mild summer. Good looking blower, I had one and sold it because the 522xi went away so I sold the blower. Still have the 520xi with blade so it should handle it. Didn't take blade off until July 15

I have a buddy with a D160 that he went through mechanically and it runs really nice. It needs paint etc and cannot sell it for $700 with no attachments. I would tell him to try and sell it on CL for what he wants and if it does not sell in a week or so then he should call you and you can talk. this way he "tried" to get his money for it (which he will not) and you both feel better if you agree on a price of around $750...

My lumen meter is at the cleaners

My grandson said he wanted to drive it.

I really don't think things like you're mentioned are any problem with the 4 pinion, 1" transmissions. One of my tractors up north was a 84 GT1100 (the gray ones). It was the tractor I used to push the snow off my 800' of driveway. We had some nasty snows too since we were right in the lake effect area off Lake Michigan. Since it was more fun to push snow the only time I got the 16hp out to blow it was when it was just too much. I also plowed (dirt) with it. The tiller went on the 16hp because the axle hitch was different on mine. As far as why they made them. I'd say is was just a cost thing.

PM sent. Thought the PM's were for the people that were not going to be there...sorry.

PM sent and thanks for all you do!

PM sent Scott.

There are more pictures, I just didn't want to put them all in the thread. You're welcome to view them here... http://s228.photobucket.com/user/jschahl/slideshow/MiscShows/Sycamore2014?sort=2 and for your listening enjoyment... Noon whistles from the steam show. (be sure to turn your volume up first so you can hear it)

is hilarious! Kinda like saying we might see some sunshine in Florida. Rob

Great pics of a great show Steve and Terry! David and I had a great time and enjoyed catching up with all the Red Square members in attendance. The Sycamore Show is as good as Steve says it is -that's for sure! I just got home after five days in northern Indiana and Illinois-but I need to get these posted! Here are a few of the pics I took at the show!

Took a few pics walking around the show. Lots to see..

Just when I thought about going. Maybe they need some of this or .

A Kohler sounds better?? Did you have ear muffs on? Nothing sounds better than an Onan when it's right. Of course I've only had two Onan 16's since I' ve always been partial to the 20"s.

Thanks for the info Martin. I have that wiring diagram now but couldn't be sure until your post. As far as liking Onans...you're right, they're not my favorite engine in any way shape or form. I would have been a lot happier finding my Dad a 418. But this thing is in super shape even though it was so dirty. I replaced that molex connector today and she fired right up once fuel got to the bowl. I still think a Kohler 16 sounds better.....

These are the only pics I took. Steve and Terry relaxing on Friday.

Lola, I always find it hard to come up with the right words at times like these. Just know that our thoughts and prayers are with you and family at this time.

Being a "good winner" seems to be a lost art these days, thanks for building you son's character!

You sure your not his neighbor !

Lucky Boy! All smiles as it should be! You should be ashamed of yourself infecting the youngsters with Wheel Horse Addiction! My two sons have WHA too! Our 1st Horse (forget the model) was 'bout 40 years ago. We did own a few Cubs along the way, not bad. Not the big box thingys of today.

I think that everyone should get a chance to play with the detente balls and spring...push those things together and try to get a shaft by them...while sliding out an Allen wrench and keeping the setup together.

just watched the differential video, Steve. nicely done. i like the fact that you didn't edit it in anyway, it shows us through your work what to look out for and what problems we may come across while assembling. going to watch the others now!! so does this mean that you have now joined the hi/lo rebuilders club?

I think I'd better stop looking at the pictures now, I'm dribbling too much on the keyboard Fantastic build, love it

I would say that most of the problems with the techy carb and cleaning it and still not running right is the fact that you can not get to the place the carb clogs up just taking it apart and soaking it will not clean the low speed passage which is the place 90% of them clog up you have to remove a brass plug from the carb body to gain access there is a small metal rod in this passage also.with the bass plug removed you can get the metal rod out and use a pipe cleaner and spray carb cleaner on the passage way to clean it a fast check to tell if you have a clogged low speed passage is with the carb off the tractor remove the jets, bowl ,float, needle hold the carb body next you your ear and shake it up and down you should hear a clink of the small metal rod moving back and forth in it's passage way if it does not the passage way is clogged up Brian

Very cool, I bet you were so siked to finally see it outside, and get to start playing with it a little. Out of curiosity, were you guys making "vroom vroom" noises when you sat behind the wheel? lol In all seriousness though, it is quite astonishing to see this, and I really enjoy watching this unfold. Keep it up!