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Since i'm on vacation for the next two weeks I figure I'd better clean out the shop and garage. The shop was a disaster from the rush to get the C-160 done for the show. Seeing as my tractors live in my work shop they had to be the first things out before I could start. After having well over 60 different Wheel Horse/Pond tractors over the last 9 years I am down to just three. One from each of what I feel were the 3 best decades for the company. The 50's, 60's and 70's. And yes for those with the keen eyes that is a 61' NOS hood on my 58' RJ. The RJ's original hood is actually going to the local Tech school this year so they can fix the issues with the metal and will be placed back on the tractor when complete. I also picked up a K90 at this years show and plan on putting this tractor back to the way it left the factory. The 50's The 60's The 70's Also had out my other two toys because they needed to come out of the shop too. Not Wheel Horses but cool none the less!

with all these 416Hs coming out of the woodwork, I'm starting to hear voices from the corner of my garage where my 92 416H sits covered up. the voices are telling me its time to do a hydro, whats up with that?

Pics will be coming this week. Don't worry. Today I finally found the elusive "M16 Magnum Powered" Wheel Horse 416-8. I have been looking for one of these for several years now. My other 416-8 is "K" powered. I know basically the K's and the M's are the same powerplant but I really really wanted a Magnum. This one came with a 42" SD deck, trailer hitch, tiller bracket, and lift system for a tiller or plow. There are 748 hours showing on a working hour meter. Also has a new battery. It starts right up and runs good hot or cold. I am feeling very good tonight about this purchase. The seat has seen much better days (but then again so have I). Next I bought a non running 1995 312 Hydro. Why its not running I could not tell you. Its all together except for the wiring harness. The wiring harness has been hacked on by someone who had no idea what they were doing. There are a little over 900 hours showing on the meter. I'm looking forward to seeing if the engine will run. I would not think there is a problem with the hydro as the only thing someone was working on was the wiring. I'll give an update on that one later. I know, I know you guys want pics. Well first I have to go back to the previous owner's house tomorrow and pick up the 312. Its bought and paid for but my trailer will only haul one at a time. I'll take some pics and post them first of the week. But for now this is what I have to report. I will be changing the engine oil in the 416 tomorrow. Getting rid of the whatever oil and giving it some good oid Lubrication Engineers 30w.

I hear you bro...my dishpan hands prove... the most I'm allowed to run around here is the dishwasher.

You got it all wrong Craig. I RUN THINGS AT THIS HOUSE...............The vacuum cleaner, the dishwasher, the washing machine.................

Stevasaurus, TerryM and DClark Terry and Denny Dave and Lane Dave SmokinJoe and his son and a 2 guests Joe, Denny, Terry, guest and Jason (blue shirt) Lane and Denny Joe, Terry and Jason Wingrider (Gary), Lane and Denny Gary, Lane talking with Martin, Dave checking out Martin's horses.

Mike its simple electric 101... You turn on the switch ,A spark ignites the grass & then you have lights.... ....

Everyone is aware of the bad rap Techys fuel delivery systems have... so, just wanted to give everybody a heads up to the brand new, $27 (gotta be)off shore manufactured carbs now being offered on Ebay. I took a chance, popped for one and I gotta say how great my little HH-60 is running now. These carbs are well made, and fully adjustable too, but no need, that thing purred like a kitten straight out of the box. Plus, they got them priced so cheap now...it's not even worth messing around rebuilding, then tuning one anymore. Seems there may be no excuse for a poorly running Techy with carb issues anymore.

Yes the new barn is finished. Should have built it bigger !!! LOL Mike I'm right there with you regarding Kohler Magnum powered anythings! OK, time for the latest report. Arrived at the sellers house to find he had the 312 sitting in the circle drive waiting on me to get there. We pushed it up on the trailer and away I went....... home, but not without stopping at the local Waffle House for some waffles, eggs, bacon, toast, grits (yes I said grits), and coffee. It takes alot of food to successfully transport Wheel Horses around North Carolina. By the time I got home it was already 94 degrees. I rolled the 312 in the shop. I'm waiting for a cooler day to work on it. Then I run the 416 until the engine was at operating tempreture, and drained out all the old engine oil. Now the Kohler Magnum is happy with almost 3 quarts of LE 30w in it. The PO had just changed the transmission oil. It is full right up to the mark, the shifter boot is intact so no need to do anything there. All the lights work including the tail lights. Checked the charging system. There is a strong 13.95vdc going to the battery. All good there too! Wish I could tell you I did all this great and wonderful stuff to the 312 but again, thats a cooler day project. Instead I had to get on the big red tractor and work a bunch of crushed stone into the new driveway I've built to now have a circle drive. That was just too much work to do with a Wheel Horse. I needed power steering and diesel power for that project. So anyway guys, that was my day. Starting another week of overtime tomorrow. Been working overtime all Summer. Thats why I have not been here very much since the big show. Oh yeah, almost forgot, yes I took some pics! I'll post them tomorrow.

Took a few pics walking around the show. Lots to see..

I am an optimist. I think the motor will be ok after I open it up. I have not tried to turn it yet have another project I am working on. Sometimes you get lucky and others you don't. Time will tell.

These are the only pics I took. Steve and Terry relaxing on Friday.

Nice to see the camera didn't break after the first pic!

everyone except me, Steve. i don't know what happened with taking pics yesterday, i just got talking and catching up with you guys, spent some time looking at the tractors and the day was done. i thought about it a couple times, but then got sidetracked and no pics. it was a very nice day yesterday, weather was great, rain held off and i think a good time was had by all. and Terrry M got to ride a big guys tractor........

okay little background first, all summer me and my son have been hearing all summer long that cub cadets are just better. We would just smile and say we have a thing for our horses plain and simple. Well the county fair always hold tractor pulls, so we thought well lets give it a shot. Me and my son went out grabed the b-80 threw some weight on her and met the neighbors at the fair for my boys first pull, well at the weigh in turned out I was about 100lbs shy and my tires well regular old ags, nothing special. The cub was up first and me n my boy watched her go we looked at each other and said "crap were in WAY over our heads" Next up was the boy , so I told him just give her all shes got and we shall see. That darned thing chugged down the tract as if out for a sunday drive, listning to the loud speaker we hear it WE beat the cub by 3 feet and place 3rd in his class at 165FT. My boys first trophy! We can now spend the rest of summer with our horses, not hearing about our belt drive "its been really quiet" I know this probably should be in pullers, but thought everyone would get a kick out of it "weve all had the cub horse debate" Thing is equal power, both twelves just us with a 100 less pounds , a LOT less money into it "nothing" and she brougt him home a trophy. I told my boy dont say anything to them about it just say good job, put the trophy up and we will let it go, enough has been said.

Bob, you see me? I'm the guy standing over in the office getting T-shirts and other stuff for my friends that couldn't make it. Yeah, yeah that's me standing looking at my cell to check the time. Yup, 11:20 I got plenty of time. Bah Humbug (just picking on Dino getting him pumped up for the Big Ten games starting two weeks from yesterday) Snapped before I got there. Next year I'm asking you for the correct picture time

Hey Craig, did you see that one down around the corner, sitting back in the trees waving at ya!

Congrats Van! I'd come crash your party and help you pick em up, but I got plans for tomorrow!

Crazy sometimes...how long and far you search for something, that was hiding right around the corner the whole time. I often wonder how many RJ's I'm driving by everyday. Can't wait to see your new 's Van.

Okay, let's give this a try. I will try to pick up the ball and get something going here. This is the best picture that I have. I have numbered everyone that has their face showing. Please help by letting me know who belongs to what number. I will start out with those I know. Click to enlarge the picture. 1. Vinylguy, (Terry); 1a. Nylyon (Karl); 2a. Buzz; 3a. Wheel Horse Story (Mike Martino); 2. Karl Lyon's son; 3. Karl Lyon's daughter; 4. BPJunk, (Wild Bill); 5. rmaynard, (Bob Maynard); 6. Jake Kuhn; 7. 51chevy (Chris Ulmer); 8. Jake's dad (Doug Kuhn); 9. Taycotrains; 10. ??; 11. Aldon; 11A. Hidden - OCTFST (Derek) is hidden behind #11.; 12. Big-Game (Ron Greco); 13. Squonk, (Mike Chase); 14. kthack657 (Karen); 15. Jimt1971 (Jim); 16. Butch; 17. ??; 18. bobert94; 19. jay in nc (Jay); 20. Neil; 21. Wheel-n-it (Van); 22. Travlindave (Dave Ralph); 23. AMC RULES (Craig); 24. cruisnblue48 (Dave Trump); 25. Suburban550 (Ray); 26. ??; 27. Docwheelhorse (Tony); 28. ??; 29. Twin54 (Mark); 30. Sparky (Mike Nelson); 31. Stratostar250 (Tom); 32. ??; 33. 55rj35jr (Mike Wall); 34. ??; 35. 857 Horse (Howard); 36. MJ (Mary Jane Davis); 37. Horsefixer (Bob "Duke" Davis); 38. Funengineer (Dave Burley); 39. Darren's son Bobby; 40. Darrenw85 (Darren); 41. Varosd (Don Varos); 42. Wallfish (John); 43. Zeek; 44. Lane Ranger - (Lane Ralph); 45. Ken B's son Cole; 46. rwilson (Rich); 47. ??; 48. woodchuckfarmer (Wayne); 49. clintonnut (Charlie); 50. Stevebo (Steve); 51. racinfool40 (Mike); 52. Larry Dexter; 53. buckrancher (Brian); 54. rj35hunter (Clay Brooks); 55. Scott's son Zach; 56. whfan74 (Scott); 57. Stevasaurus (Steve); 58. Tiffany Brooks These guys got there on time, but were left out of the group shot. I promised them i would get them in somehow.

Just keep the pressure washer away from the electrical system.

Roger that. John make it a new thread like "READY FOR SOME 2014 BIG TEN FOOTBALL" or sumptin like that, have Karl make it a sticky for us. AS long as you guys don't piss me off I'm in. Ya start acting like JIM D and I'm out!

I see some listed on Ebay as being sold directly coming out of China, selling for $26 now. Looks like the same carb I bought was sold by outdoorpowerdeals.com, I think I paid $28 and change, free shipping. The company is located in Kansas, United States, in the box contained a flyer stating... 100% satisfaction guaranteed, money back if not satisfied for any reason, worth the couple extra bucks to me. If you go to their sellers page, they have listed a bunch for other engines too, nicely priced as well.

I've got a Simplicity that will lay down a nice stripe. But today, while mowing at my Church, I thought I'd give the Wheelhorse 520H w/ 48 inch deck a try at it. Here's what I got: Not bad for an old tractor.... ;)

Ok it's all re-painted and ready to roll. Took it out for a spin with the kids and the new footrests worked out great!

That's a good way to be banned from kitchen work.

This is what it is.

Just when I thought about going. Maybe they need some of this or .

I should put grass in my Tecky engines then. I love a good fire!

Scott, looking at your home and such sometimes I wonder why I am still in new joisey. please keep me posted on the t shirts. Helping children with cancer is something I do. Even though, this year anyway I wont be there. I want to support your great cause. Also, it will be great roaming around nj advertising my new wheel horse hobby. Thank you sir, Glenn ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dont foget me, ty

i have got them from a seller on ebay and have been happy with them. you need to get a 4 terminal, the 4th terminal is on the bottom of the regulator for the armature, also the outside terminals of the 3 are angled out some. also the base needs to be curved. search ebay, there are 3 available from this seller "classicchrysler" 12 Volt Generator Voltage Regulator 1118266 1118306 1118791 1118983 For Delco Tom, is your starter generator ok, or does it need rebuilding?

pink wire connects to the A terminal on the ignition switch after it runs up to the light indicator module. this wire also connects to the light switch. the other terminal on the hour meter runs back to the oil pressure switch, this is a black wire. looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. i know from some of your comments in the past that you haven't been a fan of the Onan engines, hopefully this one can change that.... they really are a great engine with some patience and tlc........ and some good luck thrown in as well. edit. heres some wiring info for you. (from the demystification manual....)

Nick and Frank both touched on good points here. check the wiring thoroughly at the connectors and go to the trouble of hooking up the entire engine harness with charging system if you are trying to run it. all the ignition components can be tested on the engine individually without running it or having it hooked to battery. do you have a copy of the demystification manual? it is great for individual testing of components. John, these engines as far as i know didnt ever have a low oil sensor. here is a link to the manual, there is a note saying the file is broken, but I've never had problems with the file. i would test the individual components thoroughly first and make sure they are ok. make sure to hook up the ignition module correctly when you are ready to apply battery voltage, you can fry them if not hooked up correctly, not a cheap item to replace. some of us can probably help out a little more with more info from you regarding wiring condition, how you have tested the individual components etc. already. you mentioned the coil, but testing the module and rotor in position to make sure it is sending signal to the coil is important too. I've never had new ignition parts that didn't work out of the box, it can happen i suppose, but I've also replaced old parts with new in the past that ended up being another issue such as wiring etc and the old stuff was working as it should be.

Finishing up on last minute things, plan on leaving late Thursday afternoon. Got to find the golf clubs (sod cutters). Looking forward to seeing everyone. Tom

Thank you friends for the kind words. Mike, I won't spend too much money. Our rhubarb pies are high on my priority list for next year! Craig, how right you are concerning the things we search for quite often being right around the corner. James, Thank you for thinking of me and wanting to help me puish the 312 up on the trailer. I've got this one covered but next time I'll call you! We need to do more Wheel Horse stuff together. Geno, hopefully your turn to find one right around the corner or at least in the same County is next. I'll keep my fingers crossed for that to happen.

Now you need to find an Electrician to bring the 312 "up to code" Don't spend all your money WE GOT'S PIE TO BUY!!!

Bob, Thank you soooo much for doing . I wished there was a better pic of the group but you have done really well to get this done. Thanks

Lola...that is probably the nicest way of talking about your loss that I have ever heard...and what a great picture of the 2 of you. I know it has been not easy the last few months, but I just love the way you put it. My prayers and Chris's with you and Terry and your Dad. You know that.

I did some grinding on the hood this morning. The PO must have been pretty good with bondo, not JB Weld like I first thought. The bondo was the only thing hiding this damage. I knew the bottom of the hood was cracked where it attaches to the frame but I didn't know about the big hole. I'm amazed it held as well as it did. I think the 1/4" paint helped The plan right now is to meet up with Richie and watch his magic.

Condition is always an important factor Glenn. Another thing to remember is if you're buying a worker or a trailer queen. As workers, theres really not much as far as implements for them. A 60 rear mower from a D will fit it if theres a 3 point and PTO on the 195. They have a 2000 RPM' PTO. A regular 48 will fit underneath and theres also a 60 that was made specifically for this tractor by Ariens. Heres the catch.....they don't make it anymore, the parts are nonexistent and if you find them they're worth more than gold.It also needed a special mule drive that mounted right behind the right front tire I believe a snowplow will fit them also but I don't think a snowblower will. At least Ive never seen snowblower for them. Another thing to remember when buying a tractor to use is the PTO bell is different than anything else Wheel Horse made, its called a cone clutch. It has an angled face instead of the 2 flat faces the rest of the tractors had. It is very expensive to have redone, although I have heard you can adapt a John Deere face to fit it. My brother had 3 of them at one time. It just got to the point of weekly use to mow 6 acres at his house was too much for them to handle. He finally sold them all at a loss just to get rid of them. I saw one on Ebay that a guy wants $3600 for, with a snowplow. Its nice but in no way shape or form worth $3600 just to plow snow unless you're independently wealthy. Take it for whats its worth..they're cool but to me they're even more useless as a worker than a D series is.

Congratulations to you and your son! Reading your story brightened my day.I'm very impressed by the way you two handled the win. Teaching your son to win graciously speaks a lot about the character of you both.Again.congrats to you both for a great finish, and keep your well fed! :handgestures-thumbupright:

Nope you didn't miss it Chuck. I received the art work this morning and will be starting a separate thread here soon for ordering details. Here is what the designs are.....I believe I will be going with the one on the right. If you also notice we are going with red shirts this year!

Nice find. ...hope you can save the Onan Four horses in two months......no way you'll be able to stop now...your addicted.

Glenn, Have you contacted Original Cab Company directly? Do they have any old stock or could they make-up a 5xi cab just for you? Good luck.

I got a 1972 Chevy and I am very happy with Hagerty. Here's a pic of mine

Firpo 701, That looks good. Don't let up! :0 Ralph, My tractor is number 62-304 that's a few more than 27. According to my OLD math.

Squonk Steve

Probably the best way to go. I have seen countless posts here about guys rebuilding their old techumseh carb and having it still not run right after its re-installed. Mike..........