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okay little background first, all summer me and my son have been hearing all summer long that cub cadets are just better. We would just smile and say we have a thing for our horses plain and simple. Well the county fair always hold tractor pulls, so we thought well lets give it a shot. Me and my son went out grabed the b-80 threw some weight on her and met the neighbors at the fair for my boys first pull, well at the weigh in turned out I was about 100lbs shy and my tires well regular old ags, nothing special. The cub was up first and me n my boy watched her go we looked at each other and said "crap were in WAY over our heads" Next up was the boy , so I told him just give her all shes got and we shall see. That darned thing chugged down the tract as if out for a sunday drive, listning to the loud speaker we hear it WE beat the cub by 3 feet and place 3rd in his class at 165FT. My boys first trophy! We can now spend the rest of summer with our horses, not hearing about our belt drive "its been really quiet" I know this probably should be in pullers, but thought everyone would get a kick out of it "weve all had the cub horse debate" Thing is equal power, both twelves just us with a 100 less pounds , a LOT less money into it "nothing" and she brougt him home a trophy. I told my boy dont say anything to them about it just say good job, put the trophy up and we will let it go, enough has been said.

I've got a Simplicity that will lay down a nice stripe. But today, while mowing at my Church, I thought I'd give the Wheelhorse 520H w/ 48 inch deck a try at it. Here's what I got: Not bad for an old tractor.... ;)

Since i'm on vacation for the next two weeks I figure I'd better clean out the shop and garage. The shop was a disaster from the rush to get the C-160 done for the show. Seeing as my tractors live in my work shop they had to be the first things out before I could start. After having well over 60 different Wheel Horse/Pond tractors over the last 9 years I am down to just three. One from each of what I feel were the 3 best decades for the company. The 50's, 60's and 70's. And yes for those with the keen eyes that is a 61' NOS hood on my 58' RJ. The RJ's original hood is actually going to the local Tech school this year so they can fix the issues with the metal and will be placed back on the tractor when complete. I also picked up a K90 at this years show and plan on putting this tractor back to the way it left the factory. The 50's The 60's The 70's Also had out my other two toys because they needed to come out of the shop too. Not Wheel Horses but cool none the less!

Pictures??? We all have pictures...got a feeling they will get posted Sunday. It was an excellent show with great weather.

Roger that. John make it a new thread like "READY FOR SOME 2014 BIG TEN FOOTBALL" or sumptin like that, have Karl make it a sticky for us. AS long as you guys don't piss me off I'm in. Ya start acting like JIM D and I'm out!

OOPPS! I forgot to post the photo.

I just finished editing this logo from a late 50's dealer decal. Guess it is the old school design?

In case it was to snow right now, two of the backup Bee-Hinds are ready. Stay tuned to this station for the real crew!

Congratulations to you and your son! Reading your story brightened my day.I'm very impressed by the way you two handled the win. Teaching your son to win graciously speaks a lot about the character of you both.Again.congrats to you both for a great finish, and keep your well fed! :handgestures-thumbupright:

Well I was able to get the 416 to the house and started on the rest today. This one is going to be my Dad's new tractor. Its a 1996 416-H. Its already got its issues. I can't get it to even try to start, leaks oil like a sieve from the drain pipe. dirty as a mother. It looks like every bird in a 100 mile radius sat on it at some point over the last couple years in the barn. I see some wiring issues already. Wires missing from the hour meter and one I dont know where it goes... Got a start on replacing the Molex connector with male/female insulated sta-kons today once I couldn't get it to fire. Battery has on the charger for a couple hours and is holding 13.8 volts. We'll see how long it holds out. Got some different ideas on this one. Im going to have custom decals done that say 50th Anniversary Special Edition in the same script as the 60th anniversary ones on the 2007 315 Classic GT. Probably a big one on the hood only and maybe smaller on the center, rear fender pan. LED lights for the back, possibly for the front. Going to remove the factory manual PTO and see if I can adapt one of the electric clutches I have to the Onan. Some odds n ends here and there. Lil guy is helping me on this one. Its also going to be the first tractor I do base coat/clear coat with a spray gun instead of bombs. I hope it comes out better..... It should truly be unique for my Dad. His 12 auto is just about ready to be retired, She's almost dead..... And so it begins.....

Being a "good winner" seems to be a lost art these days, thanks for building you son's character!

I was moving some projects around and this is what happened. Even the log splitter came out to play!

You need-need a blade-blade too-too.

You might want to add a second motor in there somewhere Glen! Mike........

I have a new idea for this year's snow battle. But I need to get something fabricated to make it work. When you see the picture you will get my drift. Glenn I have a new idea for this year's snow battle. But I need to get something fabricated to make it work. When you see the picture you will get my drift. Glenn

You sure your not his neighbor !

Better watch out cutting through Indiana though Geno. Got the Hoosiers watching out for Horse russlers. If we catch any we string um up by there hitches!!!

Whenever I have something to do and a need for special tool arises, I never hesitate to get it. Saves a lot of frustration and banged up skin. Like you said it saves a lot of time too.

Condition is always an important factor Glenn. Another thing to remember is if you're buying a worker or a trailer queen. As workers, theres really not much as far as implements for them. A 60 rear mower from a D will fit it if theres a 3 point and PTO on the 195. They have a 2000 RPM' PTO. A regular 48 will fit underneath and theres also a 60 that was made specifically for this tractor by Ariens. Heres the catch.....they don't make it anymore, the parts are nonexistent and if you find them they're worth more than gold.It also needed a special mule drive that mounted right behind the right front tire I believe a snowplow will fit them also but I don't think a snowblower will. At least Ive never seen snowblower for them. Another thing to remember when buying a tractor to use is the PTO bell is different than anything else Wheel Horse made, its called a cone clutch. It has an angled face instead of the 2 flat faces the rest of the tractors had. It is very expensive to have redone, although I have heard you can adapt a John Deere face to fit it. My brother had 3 of them at one time. It just got to the point of weekly use to mow 6 acres at his house was too much for them to handle. He finally sold them all at a loss just to get rid of them. I saw one on Ebay that a guy wants $3600 for, with a snowplow. Its nice but in no way shape or form worth $3600 just to plow snow unless you're independently wealthy. Take it for whats its worth..they're cool but to me they're even more useless as a worker than a D series is.

A Tecky just out of the crate!

Thank you, I will be letting my son read these as he is still pumped over it, but like I say no one could of seen this coming. The motor was one I found in the junkyard that we did nothing to but put gas in it and the old b-80 still had the origanal belt. I did not have the cash to set her up right for this so we took her as she sat. Personally I think she sorta knew what was up. I know its all just in fun but we were sort of taking it personaly, because of how bad the horses were talked about.

This thread is killing me!!!

Having the correct tools for that type of job makes all the difference in the world... Especially when it comes to electrical. We used several different types of extraction and insertion tools when working on electrical components of the F-111. If you did not have the tools, when you headed out to the flightline, it made all the difference in the world between a 30 minute fix vs. a 3hr. hassle. Rob

Now you've done it, he has that addicted to look.

I was searching through some of my dad's posts and found pictures of this tractor before he bought it. He bought it from Bevan(yokomist) I guess before he moved back to New Zealand. Thought it was cool seeing it like that.

Boy it must be a slow day when the hot topic on is ...... Hooked on Phonics & Native American History ....

We hid it from you..

Good news. I was able to get exactly what I needed and Baynsville Electronics right here in good old Baltimore. Uses .156 Molex pins and housings. $7.49.

OK ... I'm sorry!!!!! I got yelled at because I had no idea how this worked. I just jumped in with both feet, and I guess I should have read a bit first. So ... I'll start over on my own post, and not trash up other guys stuff!!! Background ... in 1978, I got a new D200 for my Dad at Jacks Wheel Horse in Sarver PA. First two pics are when it was new, one nice pic, one with my big butt in the middle of it!! Over the years, it was used to mow, plow snow, and spread lots of gravel and dirt. One hell of a machine, period!! It also served Dad well as a grandchild entertainment device!! It replaced an older 6hp horse, which we worked to death. One pic here is me pulling a single plow with Dad steering , or should I say LEANING on it!! Even with all his weight that lil 6 pulled it!! So fast forward to 2014 ... I'm on a shortlist, with major coronary issues. On full disability for awhile now, just waitin for the backhoe to show up! Too much truck driver food I guess!! I decided to look for a D200 to restore. I figured I could do that at my own pace, day at a time. I found a complete, but crappy unit down in Naples FL, for way too much $$$!!! I looked at cheaper units, but when I added the cost of missing parts, this one became a much better deal. It has a mower only, big unit, guy said it's a 60, but I didn't think they put them on 200's, they were 250 only, right?? Anyway, this is gonna be a cruiser only, so at some point, I am going to sell or trade off ALL the mower parts, including the PTO, jack shaft and lift cyl, and probably the valve body as well. First step was to tear it to pieces!! Fasteners in a parts wash bin, everything else piled on shelves awaiting their turn on the wire wheel / sandblaster table!! For many years, I traveled the country, every state except AK and HI by myself, just me, my truck, and a creatively written log book!! LOL Now, I'm not about to cruise the woods alone. But wait, the D200 is a single seater!! Not no mo!! The first part of this is an 18 inch frame stretch so I can have a place for my sexy red head to sit!!! The most troubling part was how to modify the transaxle drive tubes. My buddy suggested welding hose bibs on each tube, then connecting them with soft lines. Sounds good to me!! WOW, talk about an expert welder!!! Sweet job!! So that's done, well, not the lines just yet. Have to mount the axle, and pump to get the exact length. Not much room for error, as high pressure soft lines don't bend very well!! The frame pieces should be done next week, and I can start putting it back together and get the lines made up. Now don't get in a rush, it's 92-96 deg everyday here, and the garage is usually 15-20 deg hotter than outside. Lots of sweat, lots of Gatoraide, and lots and lots of naps!!! LOL Now, I have to tell you about my first Red Square experience. I had to hacksaw the steering wheel off, so I needed a new top for the shaft. Member Bill Price from AL responded to my cry for help. He cut off an old shaft he had, and sent it, along with some other cool pieces to me FREE OF CHARGE. That's just wrong! LOL If that's the kind of people that are common on here, well, this truly is a special place. Many thanks brother!!! You get first dibs on my spare part pile, which will be pretty big!! Stay tuned!!!!

Pics will be coming this week. Don't worry. Today I finally found the elusive "M16 Magnum Powered" Wheel Horse 416-8. I have been looking for one of these for several years now. My other 416-8 is "K" powered. I know basically the K's and the M's are the same powerplant but I really really wanted a Magnum. This one came with a 42" SD deck, trailer hitch, tiller bracket, and lift system for a tiller or plow. There are 748 hours showing on a working hour meter. Also has a new battery. It starts right up and runs good hot or cold. I am feeling very good tonight about this purchase. The seat has seen much better days (but then again so have I). Next I bought a non running 1995 312 Hydro. Why its not running I could not tell you. Its all together except for the wiring harness. The wiring harness has been hacked on by someone who had no idea what they were doing. There are a little over 900 hours showing on the meter. I'm looking forward to seeing if the engine will run. I would not think there is a problem with the hydro as the only thing someone was working on was the wiring. I'll give an update on that one later. I know, I know you guys want pics. Well first I have to go back to the previous owner's house tomorrow and pick up the 312. Its bought and paid for but my trailer will only haul one at a time. I'll take some pics and post them first of the week. But for now this is what I have to report. I will be changing the engine oil in the 416 tomorrow. Getting rid of the whatever oil and giving it some good oid Lubrication Engineers 30w.

I must have an severe addiction Gotta stop adopting these poor unwanted little horses. This makes three ....THIS WEEK ! I hope Mrs. K was napping when I pulled in this morning.

Initially, I didn't go for them either Ed... but they have a way of growing on you. My black hood has become one of my all time favorites now.

A heap big... AWEsome

FYI...I hear tell there's still a bunch of 'em stashed away in CT Geno.

I called the guy last yr. He seemed on the up and up and seemed to be an older guy. He might not know what the hp is...

Terry, can you make the "old school" design in the transparent vinyl that light shines through?

Duke, I'll get something posted tomorrow afternoon. I don't know if you are set up for Skype but I talked with Steve( he's hanging out with Smokin Joe, Martin, Terry M and I thought he said Jason was also down there for AJ's tractor show. But we are going to have a meeting of the minds(so to speak) at 1:00 pm eastern, 12:00 pm central. Let us know if you have Skype and we'll get you plugged in. I know everybodies been waiting all year for this so here we Go!!! Go Hawkeyes!!!

Cmon Mike, Let's see it. I'm sure you have one ready for when they turn into a .

There is decent one for sale on C/L within striking distance for me for 900 bucks. It comes with a working mower deck. Not a bad deal IMO, but they are a space hog and I just don't need it....

WAY TO MUCH HYPE around these 2 in the city! If only the city would get as concerned about the condition of the city as it has about LeBron and J-Football! Or maybe they should invest some of that money back into the city. Now that is just crazy talk. Let's pay the players and not invest back into the community. I know Lebron has set up his old high school very nicely. I give him credit there. After 2 months of this crap, it is getting VERY OLD! They are not god, but the local media sure has done it's job, along with national news coverage, making them look like god. And now the Sprite commercial with Lebron, come on. As you can tell, this topic, is a very sore subject, with me. I know everyone is entitled to their opinions. I do respect that, but come on, give it a break media! Rob

Extreme motorworks

IH Cub Cadets are great old tractors, I've got 3 of them. However, if I had to keep just one tractor, it would be the Wheelhorse EVERY time. Nice tractor and pulling too! Good luck, Bill

https://lookup3.toro.com/classes/doGetPub/?pubid=6980 Here is a setup manual from the toro site.Picture 5-7 is the one you want. d series linkage.bmp

Hence the name. Challenger to make it right.

Looks pretty cut up and modified. My guess is that it was once a Charger 12. The way it's been butchered, I would say that it would definately be a "challenge".

Oh no, is it another where's Waldo contest?

That's really good to know. I have many times wanted to buy something but could not figure a way to have it shipped to me. There are several Fastenal locations near me.

That's a dirty thing to do to a nice Wheel Horse but I understand the need.