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Scott...you are a chick magnet!! She was just waiting for you to be outside with 2 cycle oil in her hand. Oldest trick in the book.

Well I went and picked up my tiller today for the C-160. I was pleasantly surprised to say the least. It came with the idler pulley set and a belt as well. Heres some pics. It really isn't NOS but is used so little it might as well be. The tines still have paint on the ends of them its truly in amazing shape and I still cant believe I got it for free!!!

Got some pictures loaded. What do you guys think?

Today when I was cutting grass, my neighbor stopped me to check her oil in her new push mower. Naturally I said sure and proceeded to check the oil. This is a new 22" briggs push lawn mower by the way. It was over full and asked her if she added any. Her response was yes and handed me a bottle of 2 cycle oil. I told her that is the wrong kind of oil and we need to drain the oil and fill it with the write kind of 30 wt. Here comes the problem, NO DRAIN PLUG! I looked every ware I could think to look, nothing to be found. I had to flip the mower over and drain it out the fill hole! I was dumbfounded with this mower. So they realized that most people never change the oil in there push mowers, so they removed the drain plug! Then I noticed the gas cap, it said E85 on it! Amassing what there building for push mowers today!!

Great day was had by young and old alike today at the Yorkanna Gun Clubs annual 12U kids fishing derby.

I bought a nice FEL tonight that's in real nice shape. Nothing is leaking,bent or re welded. Always wanted one finally got one. Unfortunately the 310-8 tractor has a bad rear end but still moves. The engine does run great. I'm keeping the FEL, rear box and wheel weights. The rest of the Tractor is for sale. Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk

Already blew a gasket just getting this far.

An overdue update... Thought I'd get in the action on fender repairs, by the time I welded up the holes in a c series fender, I thought it easier to weld up the very rusty raider fender. Here it is with most rust cut out and patched And with the last patch in place Time for a short video showing the final transmission arrangement and steering. http://youtu.be/S6zzlN8f1-0 And some pics with the body mounted and engine It was going to Newby, but now the GT is going there's no room... :(

Looks to be pretty clean, if it runs good and the trans is strong, $400 is top money but with a blade and deck, and it checks out not a bad deal, look at it this way, a good running 8hp will run $200 the starter belt guard is another $75 most are missing, the blade is $150 with axle bracket and that is only a few items.

Last week I was going through the Ebay postings. Wheel Horses, especially round hoods, in Florida are as scarce as snow in Key West. But.......I found one and it was 15 miles from me. I contacted the seller and went to look at it. A Surburban 400!!!!! That was really cool to me because that's the very model that was my Dad's first Wheel Horse in 1960 when I was 6 years old. The hood in all there and in decent shape. The tool box and fenders were pristine. The K91 ran real well but he had installed a crankshaft from a generator and it had a tapered shaft. He welded a pulley on it. He did a pretty nice job but that's gotta go. The tranny jumps out of 3rd but I'm not concerned about tearing into it and making it right. He removed all the plastic from the steering wheel because it was cracking bad. It won't be hard to remove because he had cut it to get it off the shaft and it was just bolted on. Here's the resto tractor I've been looking for . I really don't see anything that should be a problem. The first thing I'll do is flush the tranny and then it will be reduced to kit form. Of course I'll be on here looking for some parts when I confirm what I need. Yea, I know. I'm lying unless there pictures. The plan is to pick it up tomorrow morning and then I'll post pictures of the 'before'.

I guess I'm one of the anal ones that likes making lines in my lawn. My mower of choice is my 520H with 48 inch deck. No modifications to the deck or tractor. Allot of making lines is the mowing pattern and having the deck set up properly. One big secret is going back over every other line. Takes some time but that's fine with me. More seat time! In the near future I hope to make a roller that mounts to the rear plow hitch with an old cut up short plow frame, with a line of wheel horse plastic deck wheels across the back. I think it will work very well. Not that it's needed but I want to see how distinguished I can make the lines. Maybe I can cut out the step of going over every other line. We will see... So I'm interested to see who else likes making lines and pictures of your cut, groomed lawn. Don't laugh at my landscaping. I'm getting there... this house was a real project since buying last year. Again no tricks, just a 48 inch deck set at the second highest setting . Sent from my LG-LS720 using Tapatalk

Well another season of tilling is in the books. 27 gardens and two yards for houses being flipped. After adding up the sizes, I come up with 386,000 square feet just in the gardens alone. The total should put me right around 10 total acres. For that, I got $1700, a new sign and a dinner for 6 at the local Italian Restaurant. I narrowly avoided a bad incident when the oil drain pipe broke. I ended up not having any issues or added costs this year. Time to clean up the tractor, readjust a few things and put her away for next year. I'm considering painting this one to match the Mustang. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

I've got a Simplicity Landlord and it will stripe a yard. Grass needs to have some quality to it and mowing high is important (so the grass blade length is long enough to lay over). It is not something I shoot for very often. Since the full length roller is always in play on the Simplicity, you're always mashing the grass. The downside of this is if you mow (as in a rectangular yard) from the perimeter to the inside, you get a lawn with two stripes! Half the yard shaded one direction and the other half opposite direction - LOL! I think you're onto something with a detachable striping kit of some sort. Here is a previously posted pic from where I mowed my Church's lawn last Summer with the Simplicity. Good luck, Bill

I don't think you will have any problem painting the fins. I use the same paint to paint the engine as I use to paint the tractor. The fins get painted as many coats as the engine. The biggest problem with cooling is not going to be paint, but dirt and debris that gets trapped in the fins due to lack of proper maintenance.

Do you have any duplicate plates you would part with? I only have the one plate that came with mine. Joel

I have a 90 312-h,it is a good tractor,check the area where the frame bolts to the rear end,check for a cracked plate,them id look at the linkage and make sure its operating smooth,maybe someone tightened the slider too much

Just run the front of the deck a 1/2 inch lower than the rear and you get lines too.

I like the ball park look, stripes. I've seen 'em but don't remember where, brush that mounts to the rear of a mower deck to "sweep" the lawn directional lines. Take a peek-a-boo here http://www.mowersdirect.com/lawn/toro-lawn-mower-striping-kits.html and here too! http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=toro_consumer&mn=121-5706%2C+Striping+Kit%2C+Zero-Turn-Radius+Riding+Mower+with+50in+Cutting+Unit&dn=3372-972-419743-0001 A lot of videos on YouTube detailing homemade striping kits.

A piece of string ( like a chalk line ) strung between 2 stakes will give you picture perfect lines

Not similar, but exactly the same. I owned one once, but sold it. it was orange with a green wheel. Whats not pictured is the hitch. it went to the 4 bolts mount around the hopper frame and had the typical Simplicity C shaped hook up. When I got this unit it gave me the missing 2 hole plates that the DB didn't have with it. There was a Wheel horse one on Facebook the other day that's the same seeder unit, as they were made for all sorts of different companies. Its the hitching part I believe where made by the end seller. Nice to see another type of manual as I never got one with the Wards seeders when I got it.

that's the same unit I have, but mine is white and has pipe handles.

My powder coater went out of business. I used to get a set of 4 wheels blasted and powder coated for $55.00. Most people said that was cheap. I guess that's why he went out of business.

I have a C-175 with a series 1 KT17 and an eaton 1100 HYDRO. I have had no issues with it on hills or anything. I have been running my tractor on hills, up, down, and side to side. Dont get me wrong I still have a concern for oil starvation but I dont think i'm going to worry about it too much. Most important thing to remember is to pull the dipstick before you start it. I like mine just a little above the full mark. like 1/16th or 1/8th inch. Have fun, enjoy, and good luck with your new tractor.

Well the end of the school year is approaching fast. It has been a whirlwind of a spring with many hiccups and bumps in the road. Thankfully we are able to still plug away. The unfortunate part is we will not meet our deadline. . The good news is that we are moving forward and will continue to meet during the summer. This project is the kids project, not mine. They will see it through to completion. It would not be good for anyone if I came in after hours and tried to help finish it myself. This past week we sanded a bit more and had some fun applying decals. The kids put the decals on themselves and did a mighty fine job. Please hang in there with us as we continue to try and finish this up. Sanding away!!! The good news is, we will be receiving a small sand blast cabinet in the near future! Slow and steady hands......they did a great job applying Terry's decals!

In NC we still hang people for shooting Wheel Horses!

Stumbled on this the other day, and while it predates the forum, I don't remember ever discussing it here. We all know that when we're in a dispute, feud or war with people (sometimes even neighbors and friends), it's often not the conflicting parties that are injured, but the collateral damage is more horrible. Such a case is highlighted below. Be warned... this is a bit of a troubling story.

I like the flywheel side with the Kohler spinning full song!

This highlights the side I like best.

JLW: I checked this am and you are correct! 11 different ones. I have two D-12 plates. Here are copies of the two versions from the 11961 Sears catalog. Made in Danville, Illinois. I have the two wheel version on the second page that I am restoring. The first page version is the pull behind the tractor version. See top center of the page. See bottom right corner of the page. That is the version I have. This is my seeder restore project in process. Hunter Green and Black colors.

Sometimes it's better to spend a few more $$ to get a complete nicer machine, than to buy one that needs this or that, buying this or that can add up, I know I sell lots of this and thats, the 877 in the pic if it runs as good as it looks, would part out with attachments in the $700-800 range, I personally try not to part out nice machines, I sell them complete even though I can make more $$ parted.

I have a two wheel push version of this seeder. It is a David Bradley but was made by a company in Danville, Illinois (may have been named Colvin??)that is still in business but no longer makes seeders. The 1961 (or 1962) Sears Catalog has two versions listed. The first page of the Sears catalog has the two wheel chain driven version. The planter opened up the furrow or planting row, dropped the seed (using a plate -there were 11 sizes for various types of seed, and then the row was closed and covered with soil as you pushed (or in the case of the tractor version pulled) the seeder. Here are the two pages of the Sears catalog with the prices and more details. Make sure to take a look at the prices of a lot of other neat things in 1961! I have 12 seeder plates but found out this am looking at them that there are two -D-12 versions. I am placing new hardwood handles on my David Bradley seeder. This is my seeder project:

I agree with Kelly. Lot's of times people will see a tractor and think, well is only worth xxx . Put once you start breaking things down if there's attachments ect. it becomes a very good deal.

We have a nice manuals section here. Try this link. It is the complete lubrication and belt chart for most models. It was written long after many models were discontinued, and many of the original specifications were changed slightly. What is in this chart is what you need.

I have been learning guitar for around 10 years now since I bought an acoustic guitar with some money that my ma & pay gave me for my 40th birthday. After the first two years of learning I upgraded to better guitar with electric amp. I started by playing traditional Irish music & general folk music & then moved on to American bluegrass & old timey music ,which I really love . I also managed to learn some 5 string claw hammer banjo & harmonica but lost interest with the harmonica for a while until recently I started to play it again while sitting in my truck during my lunch break. My favourite artists are The dubliners, Jeff beck Eric Clapton The lonesome river band

Great looking tractor !

Correct 78 and 79 Twins with the black hood are the only ones that are fiberglass, and they will not interchange with any other black hoods, because they used the old style dash.

Looks like my '90 520-8 before I restored the poor old Horse. After a complete tear down, I sand blasted all before painting. New decals from, of course, the Vinyl Guy. Have fun with the project and be sure, we need to know and see, to post updates. Good luck!

No way... bullets would have bounced off a Techy.

If anyone is interested, got the spring, put it all together with only two bolts, stuck the shifter in there, tried it all on the bench, seems to work fine . Tomorrow I'll put the gasket on and assemble it all, touch up the paint and stick it back on the tractor. Wish me well and thanks all for the help

With the points open, jump the gap with a screwdriver, you should get a spark at the plug each time the gap is jumped...... just like the points opening and closing. Another thing ... with the points open the voltage at the wire connecting to the points should be 12V ... then when the points close that voltage should drop to "0".

Don't forget the 867... the only short frame six-speed. (from the factory, anyway). 857 (three speed) 867 (six speed) 877 (hydro) ... the three Kohler 8HP tractors in 1967. The 857s are fairly common, the 867s and 877s are a little more hard to come by. I can't think of the last time I've even seen a picture of an 877! In my opinion that doesn't effect their value much though... you're still talking about an 8HP tractor that's coming up on 50 years old. I think generally for the six speeds and hydros people tended to step up to the 10 HP models. As it still is a lot of times today, it was all about the price point. People shopped at the top of their price range and then the dealer sold them one model higher!

Thanks, I was having a hard time finding that information.

Lets try and load some pics again.

do not use emery cloth on the crank get a bottle of muriatic acid it will remove the alum and not harm the crankshaft Brian

I'll be bouncing around on all the little details for this resto. I'm still waiting on the diff. bushings and once I get those I'll have the tranny back together and the frame/tranny all painted up nice. I'm going to running out of days to paint so I know I won't get the sheetmetal final painted until less humid days return. Have I mentioned that I hate Florida summers? I did get the decals I ordered from Terry today. What an incredible job!! Thanks Terry!! I have plans for the extras I ordered but that's down the road a ways. Take a look at the dash decal. Since my serial# was long gone I asked him to do this little modification. I likes lots! I've got the channel bracket and cover plate all painted up in steel. The original face of the cover was pretty pitted and then there was what was left of the factory stampings. I simply used the backside and it's as smooth as a baby's behind. I'll be making new levers and getting it rebuilt. That's just one of the many things that needs to be done as I wait for better painting weather.

Just got it home! I think I did good. The seller is a great guy too. The serial # is gone. Once I get to that point I'm thinking I'll see if vinylguy can modify the overlay to just say Suburban 400 instead of SER. NO. As I mentioned, I need to find a crankshaft and the tranny gear but I want to get it torn down to confirm what I need. After I flush out the tranny I'll tear everything apart and do a complete restoration. Sheetmetal work is my weak link but this one won't be a problem. The hitch will be replaced with an era correct slot hitch. The cable is there. I'll be able to rebuild the throttle/choke controls I want to find a new steering wheel but this one will do until that happens. There's a lot of little things but I can't type fast enough to list them all and I'm sure you folks will see some I haven't mentioned. I did ask the seller if by some chance he had the guard and shield. No luck. He winters down here and lives in upstate New York in the summer. He was debating taking this back so he'd have more potential buyers but he didn't have the room to haul it. This is going to be so much fun. It won't be 100% original. I'll use a lot of stainless hardware and tweak a few things. Of course I'll post my progress but it will be a long process. My wife is happy for me but said last night "Just don't let the projects around the house come to a halt". Gotta do my best to keep her happy.