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Hello all Redsquare members! Don't know how to post YouTube links here, so, I will ask all of you to check out an original song I wrote, and recorded all of the music, about my father. I know what it takes to fall in love with these little red beasts! Lol! Memories! Good ones at that! That's what I have from growing up with the 701 my father purchased when I was born. Hope you all enjoy, and, thank you! Search Wheel Horse The Old Man's Little Tractor. I, wheelhorsefanatic, posted it. Thanks for taking the time to read this and check out the vid! Happy Horsing!

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So I get the 857 out yesterday to aireate (sp) the back yard. I have been using this horse to move snow the last couple of months with no problems. Well, the belt is sticking a little, so I was gettingsome grinding when shifting gears. Today was a nice day, so I decided to take off the belt guard and take a look. Guess what, the belt has some chunks missing, the input pulley was loose (just sliding on the woodruff key), and the pulleys had some of the belt shavings in them. So I cleaned the pulleys with mineral spirits, tightened the input pulley set screw, and put on a new 70" belt that I had hanging there...cleaned the belt guard and put it back together. I am in awe...the advice that I have been telling everyone with this issue actually worked for me!! I went around the block looking for any snow to move (none to be found)...stopped on the front sidewalk (and with all the traffic watching) I did a little dance with the horse going back and forth in all gears...no grinding at all. I got some thumbs up also from the traffic stopped at the light. It is a really good day. Just thought I would share this with you all. Mineral Spirits on those pulleys and a good belt...what a difference.

I'm being followed by a martian invasion

Saw this C-195 on Craigslist last night about 10PM, met the guy this morning at 630 to claim it!!!! Went to pick it up this afternoon and was told the phone had been ringing off the hook all day with angry guys. Was quite the find and steal, that is for sure, especially for this area. '83 with 2000 hours on the clock, in real good shape, one small crack in fender pan. Needs a carb cleaning and a good service and it will be ready to work. Where would the model/serial tag be on this tractor, I am used to 4 and 5 series tractors? Want to make sure it is an 83. The drive clutch handle rattles like crazy while engaged, I havent looked yet, is there something that I can tighten up? I am used to Onan's, anything crazy to know about the KT19? I know they, like Onans, have their issues!

WHY DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET OFF THE HORSE WHILE IT IS RUNNING??? I am done being a part of this. and I had a brake lever lined up for you.

I'm going to mentone this weekend and my two brothers are going with me they are both looking for tractors and I'm looking for parts for my horses. Is this gonna be a good place to buy/sell?

I went the don't paint em route. I used all new. I figured if I painted them, I would just chip them tightening. Good Luck with your restoration!!

That was just fabulous , really enjoyed the vids & pics , Like Karl said , would be great to hear a live version @ the big show , Hey you might even get Karls Daughter to join in & have a duet. That i would love to see Good ol country sing song

Very nice tribute, maybe a live performance at the show?

wow looks brand new. So Jason, Do you see a lot of trade in's and tell them " Oh yes, Mr Jones you need to trade in that 400 hr 520 for a Zero Turn!!" first dibs!!

If you make something idiot proof, a better idiot will come along!

I used a 48" side discharge mower deck on my 520H all last winter and it didn't miss a beat. I do have a 60" deck but the ground I cut is a bit rough - grass as opposed to lawn, and the 48 is a bit easier on the tractor. I am currently cutting around five acres which takes roughly four hours and two tanks of fuel. The mower didn't miss a beat but I was expecting the belt to break towards the end as it had lots of chunks out of the rubber. I managed to wrap up some fence wire a couple of times, mowing areas I hadn't been before but no major issues. The RH deck spindle has developed about half an inch of vertical play, but no wobble. I realised that I would need to do some work before next season, which is suddenly nearly here. The grass here greens up in autumn and grows strongly over the winter period before dying off in late spring. It normally doesn't require mowing from November until May, unless we get summer rains. This is the deck I used last year; I had four of the 48" SDD's and dismantled three of them for rebuilding. I picked up another 520 last week and so now have five 48 decks, in addition to the 60 and a 42" RDD as well as a new 42" SDD. I want to refurbish one of each for my WH collection as well as setting up two for use. That way if I have problems during mowing season I can just swap decks and keep on going. As another home project I want to make up some raised garden beds for growing vegetables in the back yard. I came up with a design and made some corner brackets to bolt sleepers together. When the brackets were done I decided to galvanise them so they will outlast me. This was just after Christmas and I was thinking I needed to get on with the mower deck. When I built my trailer a few years ago I had the rims, tailgate hinges and catches, and a bar inside the tailgate for the loading ramps to hook into all galvanised. They are not showing any wear after more than ten years. So far with my tractor rebuilds (416H and 520H in progress) I have had everything powder coated. I want durability rather than originality with the working mowers and thought why not get the parts for the decks hot dipped at the same time as my other garden brackets. They turned out great! I hadn't done anything with the deck shell and wasn't sure of the best way to treat it. I want something durable but low maintenance, so was leaning towards sandblasting followed by a couple of coats of POR15. However, when I got the galvanised brackets back I started thinking, I wonder if the shell could also be galvanised? Initially I was hesitant for fear of warping the shell, but when I was scraping the worst of the crud out from underneath the steel was thicker than I expected. I decided to take it to the sandblaster and call in to the galvanisers on the way and ask them if they thought it would handle the tank okay. The chap I spoke to assured me it would be fine so I decided to give it a try. The reason I was hesitant is that I made up some sump covers at work many years ago and when they came back from being galvanised they were all bent up like bananas. At the time I was told it was due to stresses locked up in the steel from welding. Anyhow, I thought it would be worth trying. I also took in the rear height adjuster bar, and a pair of 12" rims. The back rims on the mowing tractor seem to cop a lot of the grunge. Picked it all up yesterday and 100% success! You beauty. This one is going to outlast me. Bearing in mind that these decks are all over twenty years old, with a bit of care they will last for many more years. and the rims;

Just thought I would share an embarrassing story in the hopes it raises some awareness of safety while on your Wheel Horses this spring. I like to keep my tractors in good shape. I usually give the tractors a wax job every year along with annual maintenance. One of the things that has always annoyed me was when the seat cracks. So for years....and I mean like 20 years, I have consistently used Armor-All on my all of my seats. Well, yesterday....will be the last time. I was mowing with the 520H with 60†deck yesterday and I had made a pass and was backing up and turning around to go back for another cut on the grass. When I was backing up I turned the wheel pretty sharp to the left and when the tractor turned, I slipped right off my greasy Armor-All’d seat and fell on top of the deck height adjustment lever. Let’s just say that hurt quite a bit…… and I have 8 stiches in my bottom to prove it. Thankfully, I always keep my mowing shields in place. Starting 1996 Toro started to put the PTO shield on….and I never saw that much benefit…..well, while sitting on the mower deck I saw a lot of value! I was real glad they put that on as the 520-H I was mowing with, as it is a 1997 model. So, in summary: -Never, Armor-All your seat -Always keep your shields and covers in place -When the seat cracks….if it bothers you, you can always get a new one Thad (Ohio)

Got hold of a Pond Walk Behind and am trying to determine what year it may be. It is stamped "Pond" on the gear case cover, but, it has 16 inch 6 lug hubs and wheels. Any ideas? Getting ready to start restoring it. Got a little Clinton that's just dying to be used for something good! Lol!

Just started some sandblasting on my C-120 and I have a stupid question. How does everyone take care of the bolts when reassembling the tractor? I plan on painting everything while it is apart and was wondering what to do with the bolts. Most were originally painted from the looks of it. Do they get painted separately and if so, what is the best way to do this? Thanks again for all the help!

I just got done driving the 417 and 416 around the yard. Parked them in the barn and was getting ready to close it up for the night. I was finishing my can of beer, looking at the black hood just sitting there. I said what the hell. Cranked her for about 15 seconds. Something sounded a little different. Cranked her again for about 15 seconds and Hot Damn! She started to run! I sat down and throttled up. The 16 horse shook at idle but at full throttle she smoothed right out and was quiet. I took up and down the driveway going thru all the gears : everything was good! I didn't do anything but clean out the tank, flush the lines, and put in a filter. I changed the spark plug, cleaned out the bowl and sprayed the crap out of the carb with cleaner. She sounds good with just a few small backfires at full throttle: I will adjust the carb tomorrow.

Does anyone have a picture of this "assembled" on a tractor. Curious as to what it's worth also. Thanks

Thanks for all the wonderful compliments! I really appreciate it! You never know...a live performance could be at hand! Haha

Fantastic song, video and pictures! Well done and thank you so much for posting this tribute! Cheers!

The hi/lo forks may be bent causing it to bind up on the inside and I did not know WH made a 518-8 only a 520-8?

Thanks Steve, I'll start looking for that gear. I think you got it as to why I couldn't get the spider gears out. I got the roll pins out that hold the shafts on but the shafts had to come out from the left side. The side that the captive sideplate was on. I was far short of having enough room to get them out.

Thanks for all the replies, the key is sheared on the right axle I hope to make time to pull it apart this weekend and replace the key if there isn't any damage. Ed

don't think I can add much info to the stuff that's already posted. There seems to be a lot of changes that went on during the 54-56 models. I'm thinking those wheels with the slots in them were at the tail end of production, but the one piece handles was supposed to be earlier. Having the Clinton would be a bonus. Just guessing I would say its a PT 25 or PT 30. There was also WS series, but I haven't figured out what makes them that. Would like to see what the upper end of the handles look like, as there seems to be a lot of changes in just the cross bar that the clutch rod goes though.

Out of all the Walkaways I have owned and seen -I have only had one other like yours. Yours looks to have the continuous frame and they seem to be more rare. By continuous I mean the lower frame and handle bar are formed from one single piece of solid bar on each side.

Glad "nutin" bad happened . Im with C101 - waiting on that live stream

If the lift valve is not leaking to the atmosphere resealing it is just an exercise in futility, their are no soft seals or O-rings in the part of the valve that controls oil flow. the internal sealing is done with tight tolerances between the valve body and the spool valve, typically the spool will also have some labrinth seal grooves machined into the OD to also help control oil flow. After the spool their should also be a relief valve cartridge to control the max pressure on the auxiliary/lift hydraulic system, it should not exceed the pressure developed by the transmission pump try putting your pressure guage in the supply side of the aux/lift system and then bottom out the lift cyl and read the pressure

I'm guessing we'll be seeing it on Ebay soon!!!

If you can't find it there...a few guys that are like vendors will be there and they may have it at home.

I would say yes, if you can't find it there you have several others that are coming up. Jones, Mi in a week, Portland is about two weeks after that. Those are what I can think for now. Pretty sure the month of May you should be able to find just about anything. Yes, it Finally that Time of year. I have been waiting for this all ,all, all, winter! It was a very long Winter!

Great video and song Firpo. Brought back very fond memories. Thank you.

I have a manual for the 1954 and the diagram looks just like yours. It was available with 6-16 rims, tires, and hubs. Also according to the manual it came with the following engine models: Briggs Model 6 Briggs Model 8 Clinton Model 700 Clinton Model 1100 Kohler Model K-90 The 2 wheel tractors were made from 1948 till 1956. The engine serial number is going to be the best way to date it and thats only if it is the original. From 1948 till 1952 it was only available with a 1.75 hp engine. In 1953 it was availabe with only a 2 or 3 hp engine. In 1954,1955 and 1956 it was available with a 2, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.5 hp engine. If I were to guess I would say yours is between 54' and 56'

Awesome video and pictures. That is a great tribute to your Dad and you made my day. It looks like that 701 has earned its oats thru the yrs. She is still in great shape!

that sound's it about time for a livestream steve, watching paint dry, live on Redsquare Koen

Yes this is a great tribute to his father and a great little red tractor -Wheel Horse of course! I loved the song and video a lot! Thanks for posting this on Red Square FIRPO701 !

Some great picts there.

Lol try 7 years ago it was truly run I started it up a few years ago and a few times this last week. The guy before me Let it sit for 5 years. Glad to hear it's running good for you. Keep us posted. Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk

sounds like a video for sure. music on, paint drying, rock and rye pouring!

Not sure if anyone here has seen this yet. I thought it was really cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNPVt3cMkT0

remember grasshopper, one can accomplish many great things as long as you are not watching paint dry!

I understand that rock n' rye works just as well. The thing is, you don't put it on the pulleys (if you know what I mean).

Rear wheel on the deck look like a simplicity to me. Did your dad do tractor pulls? Some of that tractor brings back 1980s tractor pull visions!

I would recommend you not use emory cloth to clean points. It can leave grit. They sell a points file.

Well, I will take my jump box and hope that I can get it to fire. It ran last year before he stored it away. It should start, was just curious how to move it if it didn't. I forgot I have a few pictures of the tractor when I took a look at it the other day. Definitely needs a good clean up but its relatively low hours. Came with a deck, single stage blower, chains, weights and a track vac that mounts on the back.

Please do not take this the wrong way...I have been following some of your threads...I have to say...you have picked the right avatar. Obviously, the right thing to do (so you might make it to 30 years old) is to shut it down before you dismount that horse. That is the right thing to do.

If you decide to remove them, they can be tapped out with a drift pin and a hammer. I have a thread on here about how to install new one with common hand tools. I also have some new bearings in stock.

I packed the bearings with grease. I use a grease filled syringe to get the grease right in around the rollers. Then I seated the bearings in the housing with a screw press. Remember to put the spacer bush in the housing before the second bearing. Fitted the circlips below the bottom bearing and these three housings are ready to go. The blades from the rusty top deck were in reasonable condition so I sharpened them up with a sanding disc in an angle grinder. I decided to fit the blades to the spindles in my vise so I could get the correct tension on the nuts. Secured the spindle by the hex, fitted the thin washer, blade and did the nut up to 100 ft lbs in three stages. Didn't look right though, there appeared to be too much thread showing. Stop, think, remember - large washer goes under the nut. Try again, much better! When I took the spindles out of the last deck the reinforcing plate sat up at the front and I could see corrosion underneath it. I took the plate off and although not as bad as the previous one, this deck shell also has a significant amount of corrosion on top from water getting under the reinforcing plate. I bolted the reinforcing plate onto the galvanised deck and tightened it up with a bolt through each spindle mount. I wasn't happy with the fit-up as there were some quite large gaps evident. I decided to drill some holes and fit four additional bolts to secure the reinforcing plate to the shell. There are two at the front and two at the back, roughly halfway between the spindle mounts. I then ran a bead of silicone all the way around the join and spindle mounts and bolted it up with the spindle bosses in place. Next I started fitting the brackets for the deck frame. Hopefully I can get some more done tomorrow.

Kinda like the idea of smoked mole, so I thought I'd givem a taste of Horse CO. Several horses were happy to join the hunt.

Five or six years ago our oldest daughter called me up saying a neighbor had a a lawn tractor for sale. I ask her what kind, she said she didn't know but it was red in color and there were items to go with it. I said I'd be in there in shortly. I didn't even get to her house when I saw a red Wheel Horse sitting in the neighbor's yard with a for sale sign on it. I'd seen the Wheel Horse there many times before with an older gentleman mowing the grass I picked up my daughter and went back to the neighbor's place. A knock on the door followed by a nice young fellow coming out on the porch. He and his wife had just bought the place, the previous owner, the elderly gentleman had passed away. I asked about the Wheel Horse. Turns out is was a C-145 Automatic of 1983 vintage. The young man was wanting to sell it, saying the battery was always dead when he tried to use it. I asked the price, he said $150 and everything went with it. The "everything" turned out to be a 42" deck, a like new snow thrower and a hard to find Wheel Horse winter cab. I forked over the cash immediately then made arrangements for a buddy with a trailer to pick up the C-145. The Horse arrived at my place the next day. I jumped started it and it ran fairly well. Long story short, I swapped out the voltage regulator, rebuilt the carburetor and replace the rubber hood hold downs. Also changed all fluids and the transmission filter. My daughter used it for a couple of years then left it set in her garage. She's buying a new mower. I picked up the C-145 a few days ago then changed the oil, put on a new front tire and deck drive belt. With some good gas in its tank and a quick priming of the fuel pump, the K321 Kohler fired right up. Next up will be a transmission fluid change and some engine tune-up work. After that it will be my back-up mower in the summer and my prime snow removal tractor in the winter. The classic Wheel Horse tractors are great pieces of equipment.

This is what produces the tapping noise that keeps the critters out of my yard. http://www.beeman.com/store/product.asp?ret_id=1240879&pid=66381