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My greatest fear is .....when I'm gone, Hun Bun sells my WHs for what I told her I paid for them.

Used the Lawn Ranger and snowthrower for about the tenth time this Winter tonight! We had snow coming down about an inch an hour from 4 PM to 8:30 PM. I used the Lawn Ranger which worked better than I ever remember for an hour until I sheared off the pushpin/cotter key holding up the lift rod in the back of the snowthrower. I will probably find the washer that held it in place sometime this Spring or Summer! I used the 1963 Wheel Horse 633 and the BD-4262 snowplow for the last half hour! It worked great but after an hour and a half of fighting Old Man Winter I was ready to get warm again inside! This is the Lawn Ranger after the workout tonight! Photo of the lift rod hanging off to the right of the snowthrower. I will get a new washer and push pin on it in the am!

I don't EVER over pay for any tractors....EVER! My wife believes that my barn is chock full great deals!!!!

We got another 4" of snow last night. Went out this morning and blew the snow off my 1000' private lane I share with other neighbors. Got the lane cleared and started to clear individual drives when my 520h lost power to the rear cylinder. It still ran so I drove it to the shed, took the blower and chains off, and put them on another 520H I have. I pulled out of the shed and noticed the tire chain rubbing on the fender bracket so I backed up into the shed to try to slide wheel hub out a little. As I was backing up, the snowblower dropped to the ground. I looked under the tractor and found my lift lever snapped in two. So I took the blower and chains off this tractor and got out my 418A . Third times a charm. The 418A finished the job. I guess this is a good reason that there is no such thing as having too many Wheel Horses.

Nope. Did I say it was a bad day? No heat in shed ! Hoping it is just a spark plug on the 520H. Have not looked into it yet. Might wait till it's warmer out. Not much of a poster but plan on changing that. Plenty of nice people here!

SYMPATHETIC .... Would that be an oil that was sorry your tranny died ? Sorry leave96...........I couldn't resist .....

$20 in tubes could solve the problem also.

You are not overpaying,if you don't believe me go to Sears and see what 1000.00 buys.

Hello! I joined this forum pretty recently and I'm probably not the typical forum visitor. I build scale models - usually 1/25 cars - and I've been working on an Electro 12 model. BTW, many of the model cars that I build are my favorite car and another South Bend native - Studebakers. I found this site while searching online for reference photos and manuals. It's a great place with a lot of excellent resources. Reminds me a lot of the Studebaker Drivers Club forum where the members have always been very supportive of my model building. Makes me want to have a real Wheel Horse (and a Studebaker). Anyway, this is where it all started: Probably not many people are more interested in the Wheel Horse than they are in the Indy Car but I'm building the tractor and may never build the car. The tractor in the kit appears to be Charger but after looking over this forum for a while I decided to convert it to the Charger's cousin - a 1969 Electro 12. I had already built the engine as it came in the box but I realized it wasn't correct for this tractor. This is what the first build-up looked like: So I stripped the paint off and did a conversion: The next order of business was building a mower deck since the kit didn't have one and what good is a Wheel Horse without it! I downloaded the manual for a 5-1422 (Thank you, Forum!) and started scratchbuilding. This has been a lot of fun! Here are a few shots from the build-up and the finished mower: The paint is Duplicolor Bright Red which is a GM color. I bought some IH Red at Tractor Supply but didn't really like the drying properties of the paint. The GM Red matches it very well and in fact I brushed on a little of the IH color as touch-up paint in a few spots and can't see the difference. Duplicolor is my preferred paint. It dries fast and hard. There's certainly more to come. I hope you enjoy. Most of the other major components are under construction right now and will be ready to post soon.

Watched the 7pm news on WNEP Scranton PA. First one showed a GT-14 ( I think) with an FEL in Williamsport PA clearing snow. I was trying to make a note when they cut to another piece with a 520 (I think quick shot) and a blower clearing snow in Hometown, PA. OK who are the lucky TV stars???

IMO if you find one that you have no intentions of EVER selling then you did not overpay.

Man, that story needs a good sound track to go with it.

Dino, you don't have any snow! Our entire yards are as deep as your bank! I was out to the west in Honor this afternoon and the banks along the road were within a foot of covering the road signs. I was in East Tawas yesterday and took a pic of a doe in an opening in the trees, buried up to her neck munching on small trees. If you look close she is in the center of the pic. The loader came thru the neighborhood today. Bet your Tecky would not throw over those piles!

got home today and these were in the driveway......... hmmmm......

personally what i think you guys are calling fair value is too low, i would pay more if i needed one, knowing what i know about their capability. For what they can do to help maintain your property and for how long they will still last if maintained, they're cheap say you pay 500 for a tractor, plow and deck; how much would you spend in one year on having your driveway plowed and your lawn mowed? when you take that into account is $1000 cheap for something to get these tasks done? to mow my lawn would cost $75-100 per week. (I have about 35,000 ft2 of lawn) just plowing for this storm at my house would be over $100. it's about $40-60 every time they show up this storm would have been a couple of visits mine have paid for themselves many times over if you are collecting them to fix up and drive around at shows then you may consider them expensive. You will put alot into them making them look better than new

Parts lists call for a 3/16" x 1" cotter pin in that location. I found that the hole needs to have the rust removed to get the 3/16" cotter pin in. Not a good application for a quick pin as they quickly get removed. Garry

I'm guilty of paying to much but I try to look at what I'm getting even if the its just a parts mower I try to look at what it would cost to buy the transmission or a steering wheel or a seat it all adds up right and you would be stuff your going to use why not pay 50$ for a mower that don't run but has good trans and other things you would use than ur money ahead

Before I would spend $248 for new rims I would go to another shop and have them mounted. Sounds like all they need is the side walls blown out to catch. Were the side walls crushed in when you got them?

Will never happen...if they all go in the box with you.

Inevitable. Can't pass up. All of mine were BARGAINS!!!! Marvin

The snow in central pa was a bear today...so wet and sloppy under that thick sheet of ice. my chute clogged 5-6 times but got 5 driveways cleaned up. My 11 year old passed out flyers this fall to do driveways. He's the clean up shovel man for now since he can't lift the blower. He got a call today because the guy who plows the neighbor did not show up and when he does he takes 2 long swipes and leaves the neighbor 1/2 hr. of snow to shovel. He's learning the value of money and what it takes to make it!

They would have gotten some good laughs if they were filming me!

Dino the Ranch is just a couple miles north of me, cool place to snowmobile to with the log bar with an open fire in the middle. They used to have a great breakfast buffet on Sunday mornings. You probably drive right by the house if you go through town to get to Garfield to go up to the Ranch. Yeah, they tore out the Brown Bridge Dam reducing the lake to a very large mud pit with tree stumps. In the first stages they screwed up and flooded a lot of homes on the Boardman River. You can get cherries from McMannis again, but I can give you directions to a better place east of Acme behind the casino. Their apples are the best I have ever had. We do the guys fork truck work and let us hunt his property, talk about ALOT of deer!

Then your probably not dreading this Sunday are ya?? More snow-a-comin!! Mike...........

As many folks probably remember I bought this after the polar vortex, the plow blade just barely made it through that snow. So I go it hooked up and it ran for about a half of lap from the back of our house to the the end of the driveway and then stopped throwing snow. I was like WTF!, so I go back to the garage and the set screws on the gear drive at the top of the snow thrower was loose, tightened them and off I go again... I captured a couple of videos of me in action to show everyone... the driveway is after I hit it with the plow and then the snow thrower again to get it wider (swapped out dozer blade for Snow Thrower) ... This is about 10" of snow fall and 18" drifts in places... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-CLutXagMA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVG1NFspC0s I still need to make the bar for the dozer blade, got the stock, just haven't had the time, been working on my 76 Corvette RJMcEachern

Nothing to brag about, not as much as some of you guys, but we did get a heavy 10-12 inches last night, on top of 5-6 from a couple days ago. sadly, last nights was wet snow and pretty tough to push with the 310. had to clear the sidewalks with the snowblower, I'll have to keep an eye out for a blower for my horse! and to think over the weekend all the snow pretty much melted away, and in 4 days this much can come back, I don't really mind snow though, so

The ATV tires look very cool!! 416-AT8

Looking very nice Martin!

It's looking great Martin! Thank you for all the information on the transmission, I'm tempted to split mine and check it all over before I paint it. Good luck with the rest of it! Tom

Umm..no....it does matter, your machine should have 10w-30 or maybe 10w-40 motor oil. Not universal hydraulic fluid or transmission fluid. Here's where you might have a problem. If the owner before you dumped in some home-grown concoction or mix you'll need to make sure its ALL OUT before you add the correct oil. Remember to get a new filter as well. It sounds like you have a TORO dealer nearby so get it from them. Mike...........

Thank you for the link. This sounds like my issue. I will try this and follow up if it doesn't work.

Again, thanks to everyone. Just like whbob2 said, some vertical shaft augers cross reference directly to the same number on the 79360. I found a badly beaten blower for a 257H that had a straight auger. Checked the Toro fiche and bingo! Picked up the the junk blower yesterday for $75, stripped out the auger, painted it, and put my little version of Clarence's impeller mod on there and bolted on to my tall chute. I just finished using it on 8" of wet snow. Works great now! Throws the wet snow at least 20 feet. Thanks Again Everyone.

I had to quit using the Lawn Ranger Snowthrower last night as the lift rod was hanging loose and I had to back up into the garage. The problem was as I suspected the lift rod push pin used in the front came off . I needed a good sized washer and new push pin to get everything back in order. An easy fix but I am going to need this working as Round Two of this snowstorm will happen today or Saturday and Sunday. This 47 year old Lawn Ranger and snowthrower does not throw the snow 15 feet but it does the job and I am more and more impressed about how good the Wheel Horse products were back when these were manufactured. You can see the lift rod is loose from the STR -324 snowthrower in this photo. Here is a photo of the lift rod, a washer and a push pin -ready for reattachment!

OK, got a 70 commando 8. When trying to plow snow, 3rd gear NOW goes slower than secondand grinds going into gear. Seems like loosing power all together. there is pleanty of 80w90 gear oil in the trans. anyone got an idea what is wrong? see attached pics

Agreed! Assuming the K341 is running then I think you did OK at the least. In our sad USA economy today, $330 will not buy much of anything anymore. So to get a good running K341 Wheel Horse for $300, to me is money well spent.

I use 10W – 30 oil in my transmission. Based on some of the posts here, I will switch to sympathetic. synthetic.

Oh yes! Look there's some open fields. Lets develope them and build houses/super store. Develop to me means improve, not spoil. But of course it's cheaper to build on open land, than derelict urban land.

Looks like a good time! I like seeing round hoods working! I wish I would get some snow to play in here in tn!

The tractor is starting to come together now. I had to build a few items that weren't in the kit like a taillight, lift valve, lift cylinder and neutral pedal. Oh, and a fuel filter, too. This is it on the tip of a toothpick. Detailing the battery always adds some extra visual interest. That's the kind of thing that helps make a model look real. I took a little liberty with the transaxle and painted it aluminum. I thought that would also give some visual interest - sort of an eye catcher - but I'm not really happy with it. Before everything is done it will end up being red! Now, this next part was fun to do. Wheel covers are an essential part of an Electro and I had an idea to make them out of a soft drink lid using a hollow punch. It worked like a charm! The horse decals didn't want to snug down on the shiny Alclad painted finish and a couple of them had to be redone but in the end they came out okay. After a little bit of paint, she was up on all fours and ready for some test fitting and even some assembly. I had already painted the fender unit but during test fit I realized that it needed a cutout for the hydraulic hoses. Now it's waiting to get repainted. The weather the last few days has been very rainy and I don't want to paint the "shiny bits" until the humidity goes down. That really affects the finish. In the meantime, it's starting to sprout wires and hoses and this is how it sits for the time being. Hope to make more progress soon but right now I need to check a weather forecast!

ya you cant buy any horse up here for 330,and a 16 hp would go for way more,years ago I paid 400 for my c160 with a thrower,i thought I paid too much but havnt even seen more than 1 or 2 since then and for a lot more,but if I had the money I would pay top dollar for 1965,like a 855 just to have it

Hey Steve, Most Track sets are readily available, usually as opened sets. Some rare unopened are still around. Most sizzler and fat track sets are not really very valuable. And most are missing the cars. Even a lot of the Sizzlers that survived have paint issues from the fumes emanating from those little Sizzler batteries. As for the regular HW Track sets, one of the rarest is the Great Getaway that I refered to earlier. Mainly because it has the Paddy wagon with the different roof than what came on the regular Paddy Wagons. In the end, they are still,as they were then..lots of fun.

One other note that I forgot to add- Not all Seniors used the Model A rearend either. They also used Ford V-8 rearends. Snyders is a great source for "A" parts also I have used Joblot Automotive out of NY when Snyders doesn't have what I need. There are NO whimpy tractors in MR Whlpnys barn- they all are able to be used as intended. I have plenty of other workers here -no need to sell the Rs-83 to buy one as money isn't an obect. They were built to be used and so be it - that makes owning them fun.

So he couldnt get the beads to 'push out' against the rim? Am I understanding that right? If so, my next question is, are we talking about an actual tire shop? Have you tried seating them yourself with a ratchet strap? Like this: If I am understanding you correctly, when the tire is not seated, the beads are too far from the rim to seat them..... If that is the case, a wider rim is going to make the tire more difficult to seat, not less!

'Ow do!, Gazza. Welcome!

One thing is for sure. If you replace enough parts you are bound to stumble across the bad one.

Excellent...glad that worked for you.

well took a look into the transaxle today,and the shifter forks were out of line,i lined them back up and it shifts fine now, thanks for the help.

i went searching and think i found the listing for this tractor. I'm sorry but i don't think the description on the listing was deceiving at all. it wasn't very thorough..... Wheel Horse C 165 lawnmower comes with snow blade and front and back wheel weights. Mower does run . It has a Kohler engine . I will help load on your truck or trailer or could deliver for a fee . it can be picked up in PLYMOUTH INDIANA 46563 CASH ON PICK UP ! and they did give you additional info about the engine..... i would not have just bought it for that price without looking at it first or at least getting some opinions on here first. that price is way more than i would have paid, but its not really out of line for what i see tractors go for on that site. as far as condition goes, its not in the best condition, but I've bought worse ( but also for less money). most of the rust is surface from what i see, the left cover is pretty bad and probably needs to be replaced, but the condition overall is fairly typical of tractors that age. same with parts missing. these machines have been around a few years now and its getting harder to find good examples on the lower end....... this forum and its members are here for help and advice, just need to ask..... i think the whole deal should have been handled differently from your end, you did go in blindly on a tractor that the owner was not really telling you anything untrue...... heres how you need to handle it from here on out......... forget about what you paid for it, its over and done with. fix the tractors problems and enjoy it. you have a capable tractor there once running right..... or, restore it to its former glory and show it off as one of your collection. but, don't forget to ask questions and opinions, thats what we are here for......

If I'm not mistaken the military MTBR (Mean time between rebuilds) for the K singles was 2000 hours. This goes back several decades. But, there is no reason a K series with regular maintenance that is ran within its HP limitations shouldn't last at least 2000 hours. As noted there are a lot of variables. The longest hours are totally unknown to me, as most of the tractors that used the singles didn't have hour meters, and on a lot of the twin cylinder IHC Cub Cadets I repaired the clock-hand style hour meters quit working long before the KT twins did. On the K181 my father in law used, I estimated he used it about 50 hours a season for 40 years, making 2000 hours when it blew. -Mark-

Ok, just got the pics of the new wheel-a-matic decal from Terry today - Can't wait to put it together ... Sarge