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Finally was able to go get my pair of 857s for 150.00 today. They need a little love but are complete except for one deck missing a lot but it will be used for parts. Engines are free so this should be an easy fix to get one running. A lot of you may think this was a great deal but I find myself regretting ever seeing them. It will take a LOT to make one useable. That involves time and money. All belts are rotted. The SGs will need attintion all cables and idler pullys frozen plus who know about the deck driveline. I will have to think hard before dumping them to hopefully get my money back. I think these horses turned out to be "nags".

Probably a neck brace, and his other arm's in a sling.

My son's partner gave me the following photos taken around 1980ish. Her family owned Hasley Manor and Morton Manor on the Isle of Wight at that time. Her uncle is tending his horse while her grandfather looks on at Morton Manor Another uncle cleaning the wheel of his steed at Hasely Manor. Please don't bother sending begging PMs - the money in her family all went a long time ago! Period photos of WHs like this seem quite rare so I thought I'd share them. Andy

They have grown on me when they run right their really fun I pull everything with my little ranger

A few months ago, I would have jumped on the tecky-hater band wagon with some of the rest of you, but after a few months of owning a C-160 with an OH160 Tecky in it, I've decided I really like this one. It starts as easy as my Kohlers do, and runs really strong! Matt

If the clearance is too tight you can burn a valve as it doesn't contact the seat correctly and seal the cylinder properly. The fact that the noise changes as you adjust them points to it being a valve / tappet noise. Sometimes with a used valve or a used lifter (If the ends of each haven't been reground square) you can end up with a surface with a ridge in it that makes it difficult to measure the clearance on with a feeler gauge. Onan twins can trap you on this one. From memory of the Kohler singles, I don't think its likely on a Kohler. I work on 100 year old Automotive engines where the clearance is .002" on the intakes and .004 on the exhausts. Its not uncommon to have to run thru the clearances 2 or 3 times to get them quiet, .001 too big and they're as noisy as hell.

After being on order for a month it finally came in. Before After

X2 on the fifth hole in the mounting plate being for the lift cable on the hydro tractors. The "serrations" on the differential end cap are probably chatter marks from the tool used to spot-face the "pad" where the nut seats. The object of the game is keeping the through-bolts tight. High-quality locknuts and thread locker are your friends. Here's what happened to a friend's '86 417-8 tranz when a through-bolt decided to pass under the ring gear:

looks like you have to use Snap-on tools if you want them to run rite

You think that guy is wearing a tie??? I can't tell in the picture. I like the band aid by his left thumb though.

just do a search on Amazon for led 1156 replacement and you'll have several choices. they are expensive at autozone

Here's my solution to people that "can't see" a big red tractor in the road when I'm plowing out the end of my driveway. 3 LED's in a 3/4 inch fixture Bright even in daytime. Plus I cleaned up the headlamp housing and bezel. Installed new bulbs. If they don't see me coming now they must be blind.

Quick picture I snapped from the drivers seat earlier today. The glare was too strong for any other pics to turn out worth a darn. It's not a very good quality picture from my cell phone. The tractor is a little dusty also.

Featuring Chasm... the all new, six million dollar man.

I bet it does Matt, I'd love to hear that one sing.

Man...that Techy's on steroids.

Well that's an awfully long name "Other Euro Brands of Vintage Reel/Cylinder Mowers and other Walk Behinds etc" maybe we can shorten that a little bit to "Other Euro Brands" (Maybe it's there now?)

220 400 600 grit emory and crocus cloth. Carb cleaner with spray nozzle. Air blast hose source. Kerosene as solvent / clean agent. PISTON & SLIPPERS: One by one, remove each piston from cyl block and progressively reface "wax on...wax off" the brass slipper until scars and scratches are GONE. A magnetic base stand-alone magnifying glass is a bonus to inspect finished surface. When done polishing one, spray carb cleaner to clear the tiny pin-hole in center of slipper. Set it back into the same cylinder and proceed to the next piston, full circle of the cyl block. Take care...be meticulous and don't rush. Also take care to NOT round the edges of the brass slippers (no radius on edges). As you work with each of 9 pistons, inspect the sidewalls of each. Some scuffing may be present but there should not be any chips or dents at all. The slipper retainer can't be twisted or any of the 9 holes slopped out. VALVE PLATE (swash palte). Using a circular motion, scuff the bass side it of first on 600 grit, just to show where the scratch and gouges are. With any luck, they will polish out using the 600 grit, but I've had some that took the 220 grit to start, the progress to crocus cloth. The base of the clyinder block spins on the brass side of this plate so it is IMPORTANT to make it perfectly smooth, or it will again gouge the valve plate. THRUST PLATE (sits atop the brass slippers). This is hardened steel and requires precision grinder to resurface. It likely has near micro-scopic scratches, which is enough for HOT oil to bypass. The 9 slippers spin on this so it must be perfectly flat for the same reason as the valve plate. GEROTOR assy: Both sides of it have to be smooth, and each of 2 parts the same thickness. This sits in a round cavity on the back of the Charge Pump housing and the cavity is only slightly deeper than the gerotor is thick. So, if you grind a tenth off of the gerotor assy parts, then you must also grind a tenth from the back of the Charge Pump housing to maintain tolerance. PUMP END CAP: Lay it flat on surface plate and slide back/forth on emory paper to remove all signs of former life. Remove (save) all the O-rings and backup rings, then resurface the top of it in the same. The gerotor MAY have gouged this and all signs of the scars have to be removed. That's about the extent of refinishing surfaces, now do it again with the HYDRO MOTOR. It has nearly identical parts and the surface refacing is about the same. Use the kerosene to flush parts clean as you are working with them and set components aside in a plastic bag to keep clean. These Sundstrand Hydro units a highly susecptable to dirt of any kind so it is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE to keep your work area clean, and to flush clean every part / assembly as it is reworked. When reassembling the pump and motor unit, have at-hand a little bottle of RED Engine Assembly Oil. Put a drop or two of this RED oil on mating surfaces just so they are not bone dry when the whole thing is given the initial test run. Also note the location of the pin in the Charge Pump Housing. It must be oriented down...toward the motor. It can be mounted 180 deg out of phase, then nothing will work. Enjoy Here are a few pics that MAY be of assist:

4th picture up from the bottom: That stuff is sticky. Guess that's what I'll try next time. Thanks Terry.

Ignition switch connector body: http://www.pcsconnectors.com/2973422.aspx The "3 in a row" 15AMP R/R connector body is Kohler p/n 236602 The connector body for the old 10AMP "L pattern" terminals is Kohler p/n 237429

Get in touch with Horsefixer, he found a different way to go with the wiper Vs. the Original Cab company's.

congrats neil

sorry I don't have pics yet but my buddy has a 1955 in real good running condition everything works he was wondering what something like this was worth, has been repainted any idea's guys of only seen 3 others on the net, I've seen a 54' and 56 which are the same, ok I finally had time to get pics of her today and this is it see what you think?

I too would like a working board, with working lights, LED or otherwise. I do like the lcd display with lots of good info. Once I chase the other electrical issues down, and rebuild the tranny, it's next on the list.

I think they run just fine.

If you do decide to bring the cultivator... I'm pretty sure it won't last long.

There is a farm tractor dealer near me that have the o-ring thread to 1/4" Flare adapters both male threads . Then they made me a hose with 1/4"female swivel flare ends. I had a GT-14 that leaked at the swivel at the trans. That's how I got it fixed. If I remember right it was 1 90 degree fitting and 1 straight.

OK thank you I will check into this tomorrow and let yaw know if everything looks good or not

I am starting to like the way a lot of them look without restoration. In fact I now regret restoring one of my old rusty horses.

Uh Ohh, Time to become a Supporter cause' we like pics!

Very nice tractor Dan, looks even nicer in person!

Craig, you look so young! (Picture taken in living room this past Thanksgiving)

Keep it away from any wheel mares.

Sing? Heck, I have 2 of his records!

Steve you are too modest you're a Natural. If you were on the Weather Channel, Direct TV would have no problem forking over the Benjamins to keep it on the dish!

I tried the Torrington number at Napa and they couldn't find one but that doesn't mean that they aren't available. The dealer had it in stock... Dean

WH stickers, and red spray bombs are cheap.

In the Cross ref link I post above has the cross over to # 1532 Torrington # M-­â€16121 MOTION IND #00090903 Hopes this helps

Did you check the cross reference post

Indeed there has been an increasing number of members asking about repair services for the indicator board. I started to design / construct a test jig for repair of the indicator boards a few months ago. Currently my free time is at a premium and I do not have the resources to dedicate to providing a "repair service" for indicator pcbs. If anyone wishes to continue on with the repair jig, I will happily donate the fixture to the cause. The indicator board repair is really quite simple and all repair parts are easily obtained. The issue that had stalled my investigation was the time needed to research how many different styles of pcb's exist in the wild and if they are wired differently for various series / models of tractors. Resistors and capacitors could be easily checked with a multimeter. Prophylactic replacement of all active components such as IC's or transistors would cost less than $10. No guessing or expensive test equipment needed.. Bottom line, it's a low dollar, easy fix, just takes a bunch of time. Unfortunately my time is at a premium right now. Chuck

Jabronie or Gibronie is Italian slang for a "Loser". Thanks for watching this addition of "Early 20th Century Italian Slang". "Early 20th Century Italian Slang" is made possible by a grant from the Sicilian Brownies, (formerly la Costa Nostra), and Whatsamatta U and by viewers like you. Thank you for your support!

Ian, Thanks for your comments. Let me put a link to the one video and you can see if it works. As far as U-Tube...do I need to create an account to upload...I really have no idea what needs to happen here. Do I need to create files or categories??

Never sells whole tractors, only parts. He's doing it for money not to save them from the scrap yard. I guess in a roundabout way he is saving them from the junk yard piece by piece but I would sooner see a whole tractor get saved then the parts of one. Thats why I stole that Charger 12 even though it didn't run….now it does though…And my son sure is happy because of it Actually, I love tractors, when I was 12 I built one from an old walk-behind, worked on them ever since, I also had a motorcycle salvage yard when I was 18 to cover my tractor hobby, when I sold the salvage yard, I had over 400 motorcycles. Now I do the tractors because I love it and it pays my bills. Sure, some people hate what I do, but then there are people out there that will hate someone for anything, no matter what they do. So, I am not to worried about pleasing people unless it is someone who bought a bad part. So, it is more that just being about money. I am sure many people would do what I do (or what they love) rather then the job they do now. Grace & Peace Lv. 25:14 - Joe Thanks to all of the people with the positive posts. I try hard to run an honest business that is fair and helpful to everyone. Grace & Peace Lv. 25:14 - Joe

Looking great with some paint Mark. Hope you haven't broken anything. Have you been inside it to check it's condition since you got it?. had a look at the IPL/Exploded view and there may be a few weak points that may need beefing up as your changing the 'Duty Use' it was designed for, i.e mowing grass on lovely undulating terrain and is now Climbing Garden Steps, Walls and Rockeries . Nothing that is outside your comfort zone with fabrication etc .

Had planned on using the C-120 earlier this winter, but just now got it set up the way I wanted it. Tonight was it's first workout in the snow and It did pretty well. Google decided my picture needed some animation, and I have to say I agree...

I have also had the tube taken out,I just don't see the point.If you puncture he tube you have to break it down and patch it. What is the purpose of tubes in new tires ? If the new tire is leaking the shop will make it good. And some folks don't want to spend $200. on tires they cant afford,or just don't need,if an inexpensive and easy fix will do.

I didn't mean etch primer I just meant use 2k to mist over everything to give the paint that matte, etched look so hopefully scotch bringing wouldn't be needed..I like the idea of the alcohol. I'll get some. If I get the cross fire top coat to match my primer, will I need to scotch brute everything again? It recommends 600 grit sanding primer before applying top coat..

Must have missed this topic the first time around

Here is the 857...with my daughter at the reigns. and my 702...with me at the reigns. I can't wait for it to start snowing this year...

Here is a pic of mine (same pic I used in a separate post recently). Haven't had much of a chance to tinker with the loader. I will likely remove it and bring it and the tractor into the basement for some basic maintenance and may be a bit of paint on the loader. This will be a winter project. Anyhow - wanted to make a showing on this thread!