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I guess I'd better post my Raider 20 6X6 here then You all know the story by now.. It's been dragging on for long enough She started life as a humble and very worn C-125.. A body swap soon had her looking like this... Enter Garry and some beer.. And the idea was born Over four years later she looked like you know her now..

For those of you who might not have the energy to type out the entire word, I am offering the following to be copied and pasted wherever you see fit - and totally free of charge. Take only one - or as many as you like: Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas I'm not here to endorse or promote religion, nor am I a religious fanatic - but I do respect the true meaning of the holiday. Besides......... Some of us really don't want to deal with an X on Christmas. Merry Christmas!

They're walk-behind mowers. NO ONE on this forum should be walking behind a mower!

I've been rebuilding kohlers for over 35 years. Only do the k series now. If required it's bored, crank ground, valve seats ground, valves replaced or resurfaced, valve guides replaced if needed. New piston, rod, rings, seals and rebuild carb. Located in Richmond Virginia. I have little to no over head and my rebuild prices are 60-75 % less then dealers or machine shops in the area. PM me for details. I don't do pulling engines. Mine go back to spec.

I just heard from a friend in Michigan. He says it's been snowing heavily for 3 days. His wife has done nothing but stare through the window. If it doesn't stop soon, he'll probably have to let her in!

Here's mine, been reliably getting the job done for a few thousand years.

I'm thinking you've just regifted this from last year... not that it's a bad thing...I mean, it still works right? It just has this one missing...Merry Christmas.

Thanks you guys for the input. I HAVE to make sure this thing gets done. I don't really have much of a choice especially since we are dead in the water until we have a warm place to work. Unfortunately I don't know how long that will take either. The conversations, singing, and sharing of jokes has been one of the highlights for me. Being their physical education teacher, I don't get to know them like their home room teachers do. These are GREAT kids that really make me laugh!

Thank you guys for the nice words and the encouragment as always. I truly feel blessed and honestly can't believe all of the good things that have transpired over the past couple of months. Excited to see where this journey takes us. I can say that I am the one that is blessed through this project. These kids are such an inspiration and always great to work with. I was kind of nervous proposing this idea to administration and I am thankful that they gave me the blessing to proceed with the club. What a journey it has been and I can't wait to see where it takes us. Thank you to all of you that have found interest in our little club and are willing to follow along with our progress. Now the hard part.............to me I feel like we are running out of time. I am considering getting the rest of the parts sandblasted to help speed up the process. Through this I am also considering having everything powder coated. I really don't want to go that route for this first tractor...........but we don't have heat and I am not sure how soon we will have it. I really want the kids to paint and have their touches left on every part but I have to be realistic and know that we need to get cracking on this thing. These past few weeks we haven't made much progress due to the weather. I have a lot to think about and set up a plan that makes the most sense and will help us get to our final goal of having a tractor completely restored. What do you guys think?????

This One Used To Do It. But Now It's My Back Up. This Chucker Took Over The Duty.

The first measurable snow the other day in two years and Oke' is pestering to go out - to do this! After that it was time to play. Who says only reindeer can fly. This guy is 11 years old and took the stairs in the background in one bound!

Here are a couple of videos and photos of our 1st snow of the 2013-2014 winter. Click for video click for video

if you've kept up with these two threads..... you would know that i now have a 416. both of them tell the story to date. tonight i decided i needed to hook up the rough 48 SD deck that came with the GT1848 and go get me some seat time on this thing. i thought that maybe running it under load for a couple hours would help the engine (carb really) sort itself out a bit. well i got nearly 2 hours in tonight mowing my neighbors field and lawn surrounding her house. it was reasonably long and thought running this thing loaded would sort out some of the bugs (and keep its new owner sort of sane with some riding........) got done and gave it a good compressed air blowout to clean up some of the grass afterwards. definitely running a lot nicer, but still thinking a carb rebuild eventually will have to take place. it still stumbles and hunts every 5-10 seconds, but will smooth out with just a small amount of choke out...... need to look at a couple manuals i have, its got one of those limited range plastic screws in the mixture screw location on the carb, so i need to get familiar with it, before i can fix it. now ive not had a 400 series before, closest tractor to that would be my GT1848, which, when you put them both together and look at the specs they are almost the same tractor mechanically except for the differing twin engines..... and the briggs 18 (GT1848) has 2 hp on the onan P216 (416). after spending some time on the 416 tonight, i have found another favorite (think i have a garage full of them anyway), plenty of power and not too bad on gas for the engine size. the ground speed isn't as good as my 1848, but it goes plenty fast for mowing with the 48 deck. not sure if the eaton gearing was faster on the GT1848s than the 416 tractors or not. just seems that the 416 is slower......i still have some bugs and other stuff to sort out, mainly from lack of maintenance from the previous owner before terry got it, so with some linkage adjustment and tuning we will see...... heres a pic or two after chores tonight........

A guy here has this for sale along with some other vintage attachments. He's even offering a sickle-bar mower! I'm more concerned with this grader blade though. As far as I can tell all of the grader blades (both mid and rear mount) fit all the tractors except for the D-series. Is that correct? This looks like an mid-hitch old 40" model. Will this fit my 400-series tractors? Presumably there should be some kind of lever to control the angle.... is it missing or maybe just not in the pictures? In order for this to be considered 'complete' (i.e. I don't have to add anything to make it work) what should be included? Thanks in advance!

I meant to put up a post about this some weeks back but have finally got round to it. I thought I was going mad and that I'd lost the plot when it came to including a video from Youtube in a post. In the end I discovered that it was due to the fact that I was using the https version of Google which in turn then directs you to https Youtube by default and that the forum software can't (or couldn't at that time) deal with the necessaries if presented with a video url starting with https rather than http. I thought I'd mention it in case it catches others out but perhaps it has now been dealt with - if not it may need seeing to as I understand Google may go over to https only. In my experimenting I've also noticed that when an https Google search links you to an standard http url you randomly get a 'page cannot be displayed' message on occasions which, if you hit the refresh button then mirraculously appears without issue. Andy

Tried to come up with something that would raise it to a convenient height and be out of the way for good access. To get it on the dolly I drove it down the loading ramps. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

I wonder if this is another example of what it means to be scroogled by Google.

Yep!, we all know how hard it is to get parts here and in EU , also if you can justify/afford the cost. Just thought I would ask the question if anyone has either wanted or had to replace the Axle Shaft(s) in the UK/EU?. If this is so, has anyone purchased new Shaft(s) ?......I would assume most would look for another Transmission for parts or replacement, or try to repair and make do..,.....like the 'Super Skilled' Lars did with his . The reason I ask is that I would like 2 new 8spd 1 1/8" shafts myself, as they're not in great condition near the seals. The price of my new ones (#102764) is off the 'Sane Scale' and have no idea what is included in the 'Kit' stated by Partstree and Toro (1 or 2 shafts? incl seals? who knows?). As I'm already making the Trans - Rear Hitch Pins to WH spec, thought I'd go for machining Splines & Grooves as well. I'll tear down my spare knackered 8 speed that I want to rebuild and get the Shafts measured for the 'Grade of Hardness'. I'll require one expensive item of tooling to be able to make my own Shafts and probably most other sizes for WH at a more acceptable cost. I also have the places local to me for materials and the facilities for Heat Treating to spec. Just need to cost them up. So I'll let you know when I start cutting the metal.

Like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree, this post is a classic tradition!

Man Im glad I waited for the ones with helium. Marry Christmas to all.

Injecting a shot of helium in this topic. I just got a fresh shipment in for the season and thought I'd share! (take as many as you like!) Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas

My snowfighting equipment set up for this year's battle's! The 1967 Wheel Horse Lawn Ranger, L-157 with the STR-324 32 inch Snowthrower The 1963 Wheel Horse 633 with BD-4262 - 42 inch Snowplow/Dozer Blade

Chuck I just had a friend ask me a similiar "ethanol in gas; remove it with water" question which has prompted me to dig a little more on how effective water is in pulling ethanol out of gasoline -- The best measure of this property is a value called the "octanal/water partition coefficient"; octanol being a good analog for gasoline -- This value says that ethanol is about 2x as soluble in water as it is in octanol So what that means for the 'video' sample you ran is there is still plenty of ethanol in the gas layer -- If you repeated this exercise adding an equal amount of water to gasoline, the resultant concentration of ethanol in your water level is 2x greater than the ethanol concentration in your gas layer (i.e. the gas ethanol content is about 33% of what came out of the pump) -- Since in your case you water amount is about 1/5 of the gas amount; according to my back of the envelope calculation estimates that you removed about 1/3 of the total ethanol in the original gas sample with that single wash And everyone needs to remember that when doing this washing exercise you are saturating your gas with water (I saw a value of 0.1% today doing a quick Google scan for that value)

This such an amazing thing for a school project. I coach and have coached sports for 20 years, and the one thing I have learned is that it always gave me more than it did my athletes. I used to get my wrestling team together on Thanksgiving morning. We would play games, laugh, but most importantly we would sit and talk. Some of these kids never had anyone to listen. This Thanksgiving one of those kids called me after 15 years crying and told me thank you for giving him a Thanksgiving memory. So for them to sit next to another kid who they may or may not know, while sanding (the most boring thing in the world) and maybe just being able to listen, could change a life. If someone makes the time, there will always be someone to take that time. Hats off to you, and to all of you who have donated items, it truly is being noticed.

Good deal Scott , The old saying is good things happen to good people so Merry Christmas !

Well isn't that the best news you can get for Christmas Time. As I've already said, I reckon you'll be on 2 Club days a week in the New Year !. Happy for you Scott !.

Update again for tractor club! Sorry for the delay for those of you that look forward to getting these updates! Well like most of the country.........we are flat out freezing around here. Though this might not pose a problem to some, it really puts a wrinkle in what we are trying to do here at school with our club. If you have been following along you know that we have run in to some issues with getting enough heat in to the building. As I mentioned last week, I had a few gentleman stop by and look over the building and get an action plan in place to insulate the building so that we can have a warm place to work over the winter months. After a few phone calls and trying to get it set up to have electric run out to the barn, things changed for the better. I was then approached by these men and they said let's skip the whole idea of insulating. I was kind of confused and bummed at the same time. What was coming next was something I never even dreamed of. They said "How about we just build you your own building exclusively for the the club?" I couldn't believe what I was being told and asked again what they were planning to do. They decided it would be much more beneficial to just build a 12 x 20 shed that will be fully insulated with lights and the whole 9 yards. If I could perform a cart wheel I would definitely be doing them right now. I have to get board approval through the school system which is just a formality, get my permit from the city, have the 220 electric service run to the new area, and the building will be built and then transported to the school property. I keep pinching myself as this is surreal. Now that the ball is rolling I am hopeful that we can get this building in place by the beginning of the new year. This is a great addition to the club for sure. Last night we had change things up as we couldn't even work out in the barn as the temperature was just too cold. We moved quickly in to the computer lab and started researching the history of Wheel Horse tractors. It was a good refresher for me and the kids learned some very valuable information about the progression of the company. Many questions were asked and answered and the kids seemed to really enjoy digging deeper in to the history of the Pond family. Needless to say the last couple of weeks have been amazing. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that this project would turn out the way it has thus far. Continue to check back for updates..........things seem to be getting pretty exciting! Sorry for no photos this week!

Gator Blades will definitely improve the cut of both the SD and RD; and using a dual blade system (both 3 Gator and the 3 original blades, = 12 cutting edges) will greatly improve both the cut quality and the throw of both mower discharges. All the issues, Pros & Cons have been well addressed above . . . but, grass types, blade length, moisture, ground condition, speed and your standards are all important factors that have to be considered. And a part of the equation has to do with our personal preferences. Using an added rear baffle extension on the RD will greatly reduce the up-draft of clippings.

Have you considered using an "ETANK" on the wheel to get rid of the rust and let you remove the wheel safely. Lots of good threads on the subject on here. Hope it will . Good luck and keep us posted.

I would replace all the differential bolts just to be on the safe side. there not that expensive.....Wayne

Paint booth. After I cover it with plastic ill be ready. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Hi All, In Vermont, all we need is snow Here's our fleet of snow equipment, we're ready for anything! I just repainted the hood on the C-85 and I'm really happy how it turned out. I used PPG paint with a hardener. The Vinyl Guy was a super help in getting the decals. I plan on doing more painting in the spring after it warms up some. C-85

Interesting, I'm the exact opposite. Rear if the grass is long and side if mow often. There are pluses and minuses to both but here's my take. RD Pro's Doesn't clog with long wet grass Doesn't eject clippings out the front of the deck to get sucked in by a powerful Onan Can tow a sweeper to pick up clippings Trim mow on both sides without getting clippings in the flower bedss Easier to maneuver in tight places Able to accept recycler adapter RD Cons: Cut not as clean as SD can't blow leaves / clippings onto neighbors lawn When trimming leaves clippings right against the wall Your back can get messier with clippings ejecting out the back onto your shirt SD Pro's: Cleaner cut Can blow leaves and clippings onto neighbors lawn for him / her to clean up SD Cons: Has tendency to eject clippings at the left front and into the fan of the machines (Serious problem for Onan owners) Can not trim on both sides Far wider, making it less maneuverable Can not use a sweeper at same time Clogs with long wet grass (at least mine does!) Not as cool looking as a RD +1 I have both and like both. I alternate using the SD vs RD decks - that's the cool thing about these Wheelhorse decks, you can use them on more than one tractor. One thing I like about the RD decks is the ability to trim on both sides, so direction of mowing is never an issue. With the RD, I never have to sweep off the sidewalks or patio from grass clippings. I have mowed and towed a sweeper with the RD at the same time - works great! My 48 inch SD decks work great too! I can't explain, maybe it's the kid in my, but the thing I like most about the SD decks is simply enjoying the seat time and watching the grass fly out of the SD deck... But.... If you have two tractors, you might as well fit each tractor with a mowing deck and use both...

Hey Mark, make sure and post that here next year because I know of a another bendy twisty thing coming to light in the near future. See ya next year! Calendar wise that is.

Thanks Scott, I was wondering when you were gonna post that one up... Post em up Eldon! Your tractors speak for themselves... you created and built them so IMO they will always be yours...

Bob, Just saw your question in terms of owning the tractor. We have not discussed this however I will make the executive decision in saying this... It will be will allowed if you have owned the tractor at some point or if you currently own it. If two members enter the same tractor for the same contest then the current owner will be the tie breaker. I sure hope we do not have to cross that bridge. If two or more "past" owners enter the same tractor and not the current owner then it will go to the most recent owner. Looking at Scott's post about TT's creation I feel he did the absolute right thing and gave credit where credit is due even though he now owns the tractor.

Bob, you are correct...you and Duff were tied last year in the bowl picks...I hope you both get in to pick the bowl games again...my mistake... You and Jim need to take a step back and relax. I hope I have my camera ready when you are wearing a Michigan sweat shirt and Jim is wearing an Ohio St. sweatshirt and you give each other a hug...and the caption says..."What's wrong with this picture??". "If it was not for sport, this would be OK". :ROTF:

What??????? Were FAMILY....... cause MSU is our Lil Sister! Actually Just Like ND I root for 12 Teams Which are MICHIGAN and anyone who plays oHio or ND! I will always pull for a team located in my HOME STATE. Glad there was room on the ... :ROTF:

Here's my 4x4 C-101

It really seems like a long time since I did my last update. Since it is Wednesday night, that can only mean one thing, Tractor Club Update!!!! The day started, as far as the club is concerned, over my lunch break. I met with a couple of very nice gentleman that were laying out the plans to give us a warm place to work this winter. The ball has been set into motion as they will be making some calls to their friends and seeing what it will take to get spray foam insulation up as well as a lower ceiling put in. I am overwhelmed by their generosity to say the least. Tonight the heaters were working as we had a great night to work with temps in the mid 50's during the day. Sanding commenced and the kids became encouraged as I mentioned that I will be getting some parts sandblasted to help speed up the process. We spent about half of our time sanding and the other half of time working on a teachable lesson. We hauled in a 12 h.p. Kohler that has a broken rod. We started taking this motor apart and stopped periodically to explain how each part worked and was able to produce the power needed to actually make the tractor work. It was just as rewarding for us as it was them. I am hopeful that they were all able to walk away with a little more knowledge on how a gasoline powered engine works. Here is a photo of the kids around the engine as they were removing the head bolts. And of course we can not leave out these professional sanding machines! Earlier this week I received a very nice surprise. A gentleman named Ron Greco, not sure if he is a member here or not, has been following our progress on the Wheel Horse Junkies Facebook page. He informed me that he has been very impressed with the work these kids are putting forth and has purchased a t-shirt for each kid from T&H Creations. The shirts should be arriving within the next week and will be a very nice and generous Christmas gift for these kids. They have no idea of what is being done, but will be so excited when they receive them. I can't wait to see their faces! Thank you Ron......very, very cool! This has been an amazing journey and I want to thank all of you for being such a huge part of helping shape these kids lives! Merry Christmas to all of you!

The secret to welding cast iron is to use a high nickel content rod and to preheat the pieces and then cool slowly after welding to normalize the stresses in the metal, put the pieces in or on the woodstove and get them hot, weld them and then throw them back into the stove and leave them until the fire burns out before trying to use them. if you don't have a wood stove just build a nice hot charcoal fire and use that for the heat process.

Scott, this is truly an amazing project you have going here with these kids. If I was in a club like this 50 years ago when I was their age, I would have gotten straight A's in the four R's... Readin', Ritin', Rithmetic, and Rebuilding a Horse!!! Would be nice if your workers had portable work benches or "wooden horses" with plywood tops to work with small parts while standing or sitting on a stool or something. Seeing them working on the floor hurts "my" back. Seriously, you are doing great! Continued success with this club and all future projects that come along.

had the dash apart so we could scan the decal areas. while apart i pulled the circuit board for the warning lights at the molex connector. the connector half in the board end had definitely seen better days, one corner was burnt out and two wire terminals had corroded so bad they broke away from the block. so we needed to replace the block and put new terminals on at least two wires. i decided to re-terminal all the wires so we shouldn't have any issues down the road. (i did this at work in my lunch break, so thats why you see a powder hopper in the first pic.....) while getting the engine in running condition i knew both molex connectors were going to need some work so i purchased this kit. i could have just got a couple 9 pin molex connectors and terminals, but decided to get this as it has way more different pin count male and female blocks and terminals and wasn't really much more than just 2 or 3 9 pins and a few terminals. I'm sure they will get used for something. you need to have a special crimper for these terminals, which i picked up when making a new harness for the c160 here > you will also need some side cutters, insulation strippers, plus the 9 terminal molex block to match the one you are replacing and 9 terminals (those came in the kit). a tool for removing the terminals from the block would be handy here as well, but i left mine at home and so i had to butcher the old burnt block as i cut the wires to keep them at the most length. the tool is definitely the easier way..... heres a pic of the tool from my c160 wiring thread...... need to get the block in the same position as the one you are replacing, notice some of the holes are 'keyed' with flats, not every one is round. i rotated the blocks so they are both the same and marked the same position on both blocks. i knew the green went in the corner terminal (which i now have marked) so that was the first wire position i started with. one by one each wire is cut, position it came from is noted and then a new terminal is crimped on and it gets inserted in the corresponding position in the new block. i left the wires as long as possible, cutting right at the old terminal, i already knew i had a little wire length to play with, but didn't want to push my luck so i shortened them only the slightest amount.... heres how the terminals look, this is the 'male' side we are working on....... almost done..... one terminal gets two wires, so we need to make sure both wires get pushed in far enough to get a good connection, tight fit, but once its crimped almost the same size as one wire. all wires crimped with terminals and in the block in their right positions ( I hope so.....) heres what the boards look like, row of LEDs down one side are your warning lights........

I'll take one of the hitches. I have a C-125, I'm assuming this is the standard size. Not sure how to PM you. Could you tell me how to do this PM-ing. The only PM I know has to do with a female. How do I send you the first payment? thanks steve

Today I used the 518xi with the 2" hitch to move my three wheeled Cub Cadet. The new owner is picking it up next weekend (I hope.) He took the missing wheel this past summer to repair a flat but hasn't come back since! I thought it justified getting a HF Pickup Crane. The crane is jury-rigged for now but shows the versatility of the hitch. Go Bears!

Hi guys, I am getting back into the WH mood again after being gone for awhile on here. I seen this thread and thought I would post about my project snow remover. I picked up an old 32" single stage that has had some work and modifications done to it. The clutch idler pulley setup has been changed around so it will run directly off of the engine PTO setup on later tractors (like the later blowers do). I am going to put this on my Commando 800 for its gas sipping ability and use it on days with light snow accumulations. I have read others say you have to cut the lift bar about an inch and a half since this is a short frame tractor. Is that pretty accurate, or should it be slightly a different length? Anyone have a exact length that seems to work best to save me an extra trip or two to the band saw (not at my house). I need to make a flag for this setup also but I have a good one from my dad's 520-H and blower setup to use as a template. Thanks! EDIT: I made the flag just now. Turned out pretty good I thought. Now to just put it on when I get home and take a final measurement for the lift bar.

i bought the liquid last night. added some to a 5 gallon gas container of ethanol free premium, (using the gas along with stabil has helped avoid problems for all my other tractors). replaced the soft gas line, cleaned out the tank and replaced the inline filter. ran it for probably half an hour, its a little better, can now get it to run in the lower rpms now, still hunts. i will get some more hours on it, but in the mean time will be on the lookout for a carb kit. im not yet convinced its finicky running can be fixed without going through the carb....... thanks for the help and comments guys.......

When I was a kid, my uncle was some kind of pseudo bigshot at the local army reserve center. He would bring home practice grenades for the fourth of July and toss them in the lake. KA-BOOM! Fish would float to the surface stunned. Usually just little bluegills and green sunfish, but one year a giant Isreali carp met it's end. Good times...