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Just wanted to share this. It was formerly a suburban 550. I had no luck with the lauson so on the shelf it went and a year later I had a K91 for it. So now it will be a 400. My 2 three year olds driving it around the yard. Finally. One of these days maybe we can get a sharp paint job on it. Bout all it needs.

UPS just dropped off the new boots from GCT $ 191.00 to my door , Can't wait to get 'em mounted & go for a rip ! HaHa Been working to get the rims ready for the past week .

The trip was excellent, the show was great, the food was fantastic, and the camp fire was out of this world...I left at 4:00 AM that night. I did catch a video of the guys and gals in the parade...I was sitting with an 81 year old farmer that I had just met at the show (LeRoy)...one of my favorites. The video is the only shots I got of the horses, the rest are pictures of my personal favorites (Allis Chalmers and Minn/Moline). The video first...just click on the picture...sorry about my laughter. BTW...the golf was excellent also...JoeBob won this year. :) Shynon had him on the ropes until the last 2 holes. Me...I was having a prairie dog moment most of the day....actually...most of the weekend. Every time I putted, this little critter would pop out of the hole and push my ball out of the way, and he would grab Joes putt and pull it in. We missed Dennis out there this year. We only did 9 holes because of the 100 degree heat. The 19th hole was the best.

Just got home from the show, I have to say one of the best shows I've been to. We had a pretty good turnout of horses and I got to meet several members for the first time. Lots of cool stuff there, here's a few pics. The mayor of Le Sueur was there. JoeBob's reel mowers. They're mounted on a pretty nice tractor too! JoeBob and Martin lookin over some of the horses. Kent's 875, one of my favorites. TerryM's son Andrew's Ranger

Here is a positive Craigslist story for a change. I emailed this guy on a list of simplicity attachments he had . he called me back but said he was going to be unavailable for over a week for pickup. he gave me his word that i was first on the list. i could only cross my fingers and wait . sure enough he got back in town and called me to make sure i was still interested in the attachments and that there were other people wanting them. I drove over there and he was a super nice guy and I maybe even be able to buy his 2 tractors he has in the future. It was a great haul and i got all of them for about the cost of the snow blower .

Thanks Steve! Always good to see you again. I dug through the phone and forgot I took this pic and video Sunday morning. We were spreading out to fill in some of the holes left by the folks who packed up Saturday night. Joebob fired up the 754 and a few of us took turns trying out the gang mowers in an open field. Pretty neat attachment to run! Here's a shot of Mike (prondzy) And a quick vid of it running...

The mayor of Le Saur Nice picts everyone.

Had a great weekend and golf Monday was HOT!!! Here's the pictures I took. Had the opportunity to meet a lot of people. I will not put names on pics as I am not good with names. Squonk the mower in the middle of the first picture is my Porter Cable, currently not running hope to run next year. First picture is on Friday, we had many more Horses show up on Saturday, Martin you are correct too much to see and talk about forgetting camera. All other pictures of the tractor parade. Enjoy

Great show again this year. The weather was great for the most part... could have done with a little less of the heat. Had quite a few forum members show up this year, was nice to put some faces with names. Thanks to them and their families for making the trip! We had a great turnout with some of the best participation yet! I never got a final count, but I think we had around 50 Wheel Horses, as well as about a dozen off-brands this year. Like Mike, I'm already looking forward to next year, but even better, I'm looking forward to Jacksonville in a few weeks. There are a few of us MN guys planning to make the trip. Hope to see you there! I took almost no pictures this year, but had to make sure I got this one!!

We have had several threads about overhauling Sundstrands. Are there some on overhauling Eatons? My search didn't turn up much. I have a 418A that is approaching 2000 hours (she was an auction rescue) and she speeds up downhill, slows on the uphill requiring alot of adjusting the speed control lever. Filter and fluid change didn't do much. I have had success improving Sundstrands performance by resurfacing slippers and valve plates but Eaton are a different animal.

The reasons why I decided to fix this Carb up are many really, deciding to put the progress report on here is that it may help others to understand why their Tired worn Carb is misbehaving or may require bits that aren't available anymore....so there may be hope yet if I can help and make a few bits. I see Used Carbs for sale and sell for over £50.00 (in UK) !. The buyer probably gets a Carb that is just as bad or worn as their old one and requires a full clean and gaskets anyway, so they still end up paying £80 incl postage etc for it. I know not everyone is able to, or has the equipment etc. to make obsolete parts, or indeed wonder if it is really worth it?....... Maybe just go out and buy a new/used Carb that will fit and move on..... For me, I have to take it apart and see if I can repair it, just because I am able to. I don't think a picture of a dirty, damaged and worn out Carb that is used mainly on 10 & 12hp Kohlers is necessary on here is it?, there's loads out there to see . I also don't need to go into the workings of it, as all that is available elsewhere e.g. Mr Miller's Tractorpulling site, although there are a few minor points I can't agree with. So, here we go, and we start with a need to identify it's condition after a good clean, an inspection and then take some fairly critical measurements of some dimensions. This Carb was left outside for several years and had filled with water. It was attached to my '81'Engine that was fully rebuilt for my '74' C-120 Project. Lots of wear and remaining evidence of rust damage to the Throttle Shaft/Plate and the Bore itself- Not easy to see, but there are 'Tide Marks' in the bore where the water level line is eroded into the Bore wall- Plan is not to re-bore this yet if it's not necessary. So I need to make a new Throttle Plate and Shaft. With the Pivot/Stop bracket removed from the old Shaft by careful filing, the bracket damage had to be straightened out. The condition of the Ball Pivot is ok (0.003" under 1/4" dia ). The old worn Banana Shaped Shaft is junk Took the measurements to reproduce the angle of the Throttle plate when in the fully closed position. A bit of a challenge and not totally accurate, but you have to start somewhere- Armed with these Dims, I produced a mandrel that will fit in the Lathe Chuck and hold a steel plate at the correct angle while it was machined down to the Bore diameter. The mandrel is a 4.1/2 inch stub of 3/4" dia Silver Steel (Drill Rod) with a Brass Head pressed/bonded on. It was then turned down to exactly 1.0000" so I can use that dia as a reference point . It was then bolted down on a Vertical Slide to machine the angled face. here it is with the face part machined- The finished Mandrel- ....and the new plate machined and just needs removing and de burring- The first attempt showed the plate was just 0.003" under Bore size- Not bad considering I had to measure the bore using an old pair of Inside Callipers and then use a Vernier to measure the Calliper setting. The bore is also tapered !!. So I may run it in the Lathe and shave off a few thou to parallel and turn up another Plate to fit. Throttle Shaft was made up from 1/4" Silver Steel (Drill Rod) as it is ground exactly to 0.2500" dia. A very nice fit in the lower Carb Shaft Bush. The original Shaft is mild steel and 0.002" under size on unworn areas, so a bit of slack there to start with when new. Used the new to me Mill/Drill for this and I like to keep a pictorial record of work holding 'Set Ups'- And the partly finished shaft against the old one. note the lower Bushing end is longer, this is because I machined less length out of the shaft for the Plate. The original had more removed than needed and reduced the bearing face area (could be a standard Shaft for several size Carbs). The 'first attempt' Plate and the old one, together with a super clean 'Fuel Tight' Float- This is as far as I have got by tonight. Still have a few adjustments to make on the 'Masheeeens' and permanently fit the LED Lights to them. Next session will be sorting out Bushings, fixing Shaft length, finishing and Plate install....maybe next week. Regards.

Ok folks I am in need of your assistance. I am currently in the planning stages and working out the details here at the elementary school that I am teaching at to start a “tractor club” for boys and girls in the 5th and 6th grades. This will be a unique opportunity to share in my hobby with the kids that I work with each day. My goal is that the kids will be able to get their hands dirty and learn about a vintage piece of machinery while taking pride and ownership in a project that they can see through to completion. I feel that this is almost becoming a dying breed as electronics have taken over the interest of young minds. I am currently on the search for a vintage Wheel Horse machine that is not ultra collectible and one that is fairly simple to work on, gear drive tranny is a must. Since this project will be funded on my dime, I am looking for a inexpensive machine that will fit the bill. I will then be searching for parts from time to time once the tractor has been designated. At the end of the project we will auction it off and take the money from the sale to purchase the machine and supplies for the project during the next school year. We are still working out the logistics here at school and hoping to get this project started very soon. Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. I will try my best to document our progress for all of you to follow along and enjoy. I am excited at the possibilities that we may have. Thanks again! ****UPDATE**** David Rice has been gracious enough to get a nice running C-120 in to my possession for this project. A thank you goes out to Terry Dennis as well for the new decals that this machine will have once it nears completion. I am continually impressed with the hearts and generosity that so many of the members have. I am looking forward to this project with much anticipation!!!!!

Hello Red Square! Along with my first post here, this is my first wheel horse, garden tractor restoration and beer-for-tractor trade. I'll stick to the important details: C-175 - KT17 Series I with a broken rod (no holes in the block) along with a really nice 46" deck, plow blade, tire chains and wheel weights for a case of beer and future horseback riding lesson for his son (my wife teaches riding lessons). The motor has serious blow by on the other cylinder, and my fathers yard is hilly, so a rebuild is not a great option. My goals are: 1. Repower and use the original manual PTO; 2. Clean up the body panels and repaint the hood, but not a full restoration; 3. Rewire with safety switches in place (harness was hacked); On to my engine questions: 1. After doing a lot of reading, I'm leaning towards repowering with a Kohler K341 for swap simplicity and longevity, but was looking for feedback if this was the best option? I want to keep it simple as my local parts availability is limited. 2. I am most concerned about the K341 taking the original PTO (diameter and length) and clearances to body panels. I can always offset the motor and change the belt length, but would prefer to keep as much original as possible. Can anyone supply the Kohler K341 Engine Spec(s) that would work or a resource where I can find them myself? 3. Any other advice is appreciated. Looking forward to this winter project! Thanks for your help.

I am starting on a build of a trailer. Dump style, haven't figured out if I want to go leaf spring or hard mount axle. but any way here is the start. I figured leaf spring so when I take the kids for a ride it's nice and soft instead of bouncing around. 42" x 60" is the size, I plan on using 13" wheels on 1" taperd bearing hubs, 4 or 5 lug (I have both). ah the tools of destruction

Was trolling Kijiji this morning and had a "barn sale" come up in my daily wheel horse search Tonight I brought home a 7-2521-9 Lawn Sweeper. Naturally it was filthy and been left sitting idle in a barn for who knows how long. It's missing the usual assortment of springs and bushings and who knows what else - but it's in my garage now. At least it would be if it fit. Bought my first Wheel Horse - a 414 8 - last October. Now I own a dozer blade, blower, rototiller, sweeper and garden trailer. I'm in deep. Enjoy the photos cheers, john

Well the Grange Fair was a short visit! Started uninterrupted work on the loader at about 1:30 this afternoon. Finished at 8:20! It was worth it. After some cutting, grinding, filing and minimal cursing because I had no time constraints, I got it on. Thanks to my Karen who slid the tractor under the mount while I held the frame up. (Never made the stands. Used the brace arms to get it off the blocks). No leaks, no seeps, no noises, and full function of everything. Pump is very quiet and barely moves the vacuum gauge on the tractor. Much less work for the motor than my 48 inch mower deck. I didn't put the rear weight on so I took it easy and made sure everything was primed in the lines. Plenty of down pressure and fast movement. A big thank you to Malmac, Scott, Wallfish and the others who offered advice and posted pics of their loaders. The biggest pains in putting this on a 520 since it wasn't factory designed for any of the Onan powered tractors was the pump mount and the lever release/lock Attach a matic that is used on the newer tractors and the 1991 520-H. (My 1992 416-8 didn't have the lever design). It required cutting out a long skinny triangle from the thick metal original sub frame to allow alignment of the frame holes and shortening the actual lever. (The frame cut took three cutting disks and a good portion of a fourth). I also had some issues with the nut/bolt used on the front mounting bracket. The first frame hole on each side has VERY little room to start a nut. (Because of the gear reduction steering assembly). On the positive end, the factory brace arms leave plenty of clearance around the Onan and hood. My suction line to the pump will need moved since it is in harms way. I think the pump is OK where it is at with a guard to be made soon. I'll work it harder on Monday and really heat the oil up and check again for leaks or seeps again. I do have to weld a wallowed loader lift cylinder pin hole but even it isn't too bad. The others are real tight. Not bad for as old as it is and for 500 bucks. This was always a real want for me so please excuse my over exuberance. This makes the beginning of the work week a joy! It might take until noon at work tomorrow to wipe this grin off my face!

Runs like a champ!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDjWyjZm_k

It was a good time seeing you guys at the show again this year. I wish that I could have stayed longer, but after the State Fair on Thursday and two days at the show I was wiped. It was nice to meet you Martin, Jennine (not sure of the spelling), Kirk, Tom, and Mike and I hope to see you guys again next year. Now for a prairie dog moment. I'm disappointed that I can't make it to golf this year, but with the weather report it is probably okay. The Beat Master won't have to come up with reasons that he lost this year. Ha Ha. Count me in for next year though. Dennis

Well I didn't need to take off the hitch. The weight box comes within a half inch of it. Once again I lucked out! I know what your saying cheesegrader but I have the hunk of concrete and I starting singing soprano after moving it 35 miles with the loader so I'm going to use it! Moved tires around on the tractors to get the wide 12.50 AG's on the loader tractor. No wheel weights or weight box when I took the picture but they look nicer than the turf tires that were on it! Heavier tire by far. These are Daco's.

As usual, pic's are required 'cause we have WHA (Wheel Horse Addiction)! Seein' is believin'!

Please explain what thos "gtc" is. And what the sizes are www.perfecttrimlawnandgardencare.com

Over the years WH Changed its mind on what oil to use in the manual transmissions. I do not think it makes much difference as long as you keep the water out. My L107 that my Father bough in 1967 has run on 40w motor oil in th tranny for 46 years(as recommended on it manual) and has been changed maybe 2 or three times. Still shifts smoothly and is used most every day for trailer work. My c series and others run 90w with no issues either...just keep the water out and they will run. People around here obsess on tranny fluid recommendations...unnecessarily in my book.

Looks to me like it's got a really sharp lookin' paint job now.

It has nothing to do with oil on the gears (or not) after sitting. It is only a matter of having the input pulley at a complete stop before you shift. The tabs, belt or you trying to shift without waiting for the pulley to stop is the culprit.

The 161 has a band brake for parking, the 160 has a parking paw inside the trans axle

No, our Speaker 777 Lenses are made of Plastic epoxy. They will easily withstand 250º, but some of the bulbs can get much hotter. They are $20/pair.

Break Out Another Thousand Thats what boat really means...I know...this year my 1995 Chaparral cost me close to 2 grand in little things here and there. Drive water pump, new cover, new prop, 6 fuel water seprator filters because the marina had bad gas with water in if from the damn corn alcohol thats in everything... I cant really complain though, it has been running super since it was new in 1995....this fuel stuff sucks though

They are awesome little houses. My friend and I are making one out of an 18 foot flatbed car trailer so it can be legally pulled anywhere you want to take it. This is what the finished product will be for the plans he bought

Thanks for that one Mike! Added to my vocabulary! Something new every day here at RS!

first time for us in mn and gotta say, very nice show....... even with the dust and the primitive camping, this was one of the nicest weekends ive had. cant say jeanine feels the same way (she wasn't too happy with the camping), but we will probably still do the same next year, maybe bring a portable shower..... she really enjoyed the show though, the social atmosphere (especially around the fire) and kent was one happy guy on his tractor most of the time... i only have a few pics of the weekend, and they will follow. great to meet some of the mn guys and catch up with some other redsquare members. we had some really nice wheel horses on display and some i hadn't had the pleasure to see yet. ive also got to make a special mention about denny's 701, what an awesome job you did on this one!!! anyway heres my limited pics, i think steve took some more of all of us in the parade, hopefully he will make up for the lack of pics. its just so easy getting sidetracked at these shows, talking and looking, but no picture taking!!!!!

Circus Bear on a tricycle!! I knew it was coming! Steve's lookin slick!

:ROTF: RMCIII knows. This stuff is taught at an early age in the Big Ten.

Where did your dad go? It was a great show this year met a lot of new people. I'm already counting down til next year. Did you know you can't hit a golf ball by a flickering light?

I HAVE BEEN BOATING FOR 84 YEARS AND STILL DO NOT GET TIRED OF IT. EVERY DAY OUT THERE IS GOOD. RUSS

Well, I was always told, if you can not find 1 good thing to say about something, then it was ok to "hate" it. Now that I know you were born in Iowa and this thread was started by you, I can't "hate" it no more. But I still really, really, dislike Iowa. There are only a few other teams that I dislike as much, any team from a swamp, or a team that names themselves after a destructive force of nature. I think that about sums it up.

Ok then, hold the applause I am now going to make my picks for week #1 but first a few quick notes. Jim D. and Stevasaurus, I can see that you two are headed straight for the cellar, thats got to be rough seeing me sitting on top again this year! Don't forget Iowa is the #1party school. RMCIII did you have a rough time with one of those ol' farm girls, wow coming out and just Hating a team, you must of had a rough way to go. I know about them farm girls. Don't need to explain, I love the State of Iowa born and raised, I don't think I need to say anymore. On with the picks We are looking at Indiana, Minnesota, Michigan State, I should pick S.I. just to be awnry but I think I know better Illinois to win. Ohio State looks to be in the driver seat but one never knows especially in the Big Ten. We are going with Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska, Northwestern And you'll never guess the next one Iowa Hawkeyes to win!!!!! Who would ever thought that? Well, I forgot one Purdue to win!

I've been using Lucas Trans @ Diff Lube 80 w 90 exceeds gl 4 gl 5 and many other specs excellent for outboard final drives so that tells me its good for yellow metals and can even be serviceable with a wee bit of water in there,and its made in the U S A . Royal Purple also makes an excellent product. Don't faint when pricing, It's like insurance for an antique !!!!

go to the vendors section and look up the email for glen petit and send him a email. he makes them thanks brad

Just came back from my local tire dealer where I ordered a set of genuine Carlisle 4.80-8 Sawtooth's for my tubs. He had to order them, but I can pick them up on Monday. $20 each plus tax.

Thanks Bob. Yeah my Blackhood manual shows it straight. I never did look at my lube manual. So I'll now use the 85/140. Thanks again.