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Back in business. Found a bearing plate on ebay for $27.50. Took the tractor to a guy who rebuilt my last Kohler and for $71, he got the old one off and the new one in place. I cleaned up the bearing plate before I took it over and got it painted. The engine did not have to be pulled at all. Found out that behind the seal was a cir-clip around the crank. That's what was keeping it from sliding off. I would have had to destroy the seal in order to see it. Lesson learned, I guess. Even still, I think I got off easy. He had the seal and gaskets in stock and I had my tractor back in my garage in less than 24 hours. Looking forward to getting the clutch back together and mounting my blower.

Some of you may rember this first pic, it is from about a month ago when I picked up this 633 and Cole's new Rat Burban. The Burban has been done for a few weeks and durung that time I have been slowly pecking away at making the 633 making him battle (snow) ready. A new motor arrived a few days ago via a trade with Rydogg. that Ryan, this motor runs excellent! The steering needed a little help on the 633 and the hood was totally missing the bracket down bottom where it mounts to the tractor. I fabbed up an identical to the original bracket and welded it on. Good as new. Changed the rear diff fluid and mounted the engine and away it goes. Other than slipping out of third sometimes this 633 is amazingly tight! I'm going to leave this old War Horse is his old war clothes, I think he looks pretty good. He is going to be my MAIN snow machine. These old round hoods can handle plenty of snow, even without weights! Whatever he can't handle Mr 520 will! Here are some pics and an old video of my 604 in action just to show these little guys are plenty capable.

I have my Christmas decorations out for this year. Santa has a nice ride again this year! It took a few days to get it all done. Hard to get a good pic of this. 2 Lawn Rangers up front with 2 snow bades, 2 1962 502's with consecutive Serial Numbers, 2 square hood's and 2 big ole 314-8 Speed's to help pull the load of toys in the WH 4 wheel lawn cart. Small on up to large! Once I had Santa on a big GT14...Drivebys love this set up...KJ

So for 40 buck i done good.....

We've had the technology to replace good ol Steve since the 60's :)

The end of an era....sad to see technology has finally gotten around to replacing the ol' Stevasaurus.

"Here comes Santa Claus, here comes Santa Claus......." "Mommy, Why is Santa Naked?" Sorry Hammerhead for hijacking this thread...couldnt resist! Sorry Duke! :rolleyes:

here is a little inspiration for you. Me and another guy from work built this for a work project (yeah, they gave us money to build this) for a competition. We never ended up racing it as it was too dangerous. We hit upwards of 40 miles per hour with 2 more gears to go. It has a suzuki ts250 motor and a rear axle from a honda ATV. The frame was originally from a parts 753. front axle and steering and all the rest is custom fabricated by me. Fun little machine and it was fast!

When it hits eBay be sure to let us all know the item number so we can boycott it.

Here are a few more pics from my neighbor

1st "new" topic I've done so excuse the mess. I just posted 5 pics to my gallery showing removal of my 854 steering wheel. I've been spraying (lightly) with Kano sili-kroil since 8/12 in case I needed it off. Used a 1" open end wrench under the wheel , a Craftstman 2 jaw puller, 1 1/4 in nut under the puller and a short 5/8 boxed in wrench to remove, came off like a charm. The secret was in the preparation.

I still haven't got another to fix up yet, but I have picked up a few more antique Briggs engines. It seems like they're multipling like rabbits every time I turn my back! This one is from a Bolens Power Ho. I bought this one because its gas tank has a thu rod fuel shut off, which none of my other Briggs engines have. It also has the the long S bend pipe going to the air filter. Upon opening it up, I found it had alot of rust pitting on the deck of the block, paticularly around the exhaust valve, including some on the head gasket sealing surface. Strangley enough, the cylinder was beautiful with no rust at all, or ridge. I gave the cylinder a quick hone to break the glaze in the cylinder. I took it to the machine shop to have it decked, and the exhaust seat cut. There is still some pitting on the deck, as I told them only to remove enough to give me a cleand head gasket sealing surface. The gas tank was pretty rough too. I had to open it up, so I could remove the dents, and rust. I had to replace the threads for the gas cap as well. I then resoldered it back together, and primed it. I now have the long block assembled, and painted. I know its not , but its what I've been up to lately. Matt

I SOLD WHEEL HORSES IN CT. IN THE 50 AND 60S IN GREENWICH, CT. WE SOLD ALOT OF THEM. WE WERE THE FIRST DEALER IN NEW ENGLAND.

I would not doubt Penn. or Ohio there are alot of GTs in those two states at least according to Ebay. When I look there always seem to be a lot of good tractors in Penn.

Thats great news Scott, and Zach looks very happy! The Lady Ranger better watch out, because he'll be giving his sister a run for her money in no time. Matt :flags-texas:

My vote would be $100 max. I've got two tractors with these type wheel weights and like them. The only thing I wish would one could find front and rear wheel weights that fit on the inside of the rims so you could use the hub caps! Good luck, Bill

Looks like you have a good start on the restoration! Not to ask stupid question, but what is DA?

Seeing as it was a nice day today, SteveBo and I let our Seniors horse around today. We checked out all the subtle differences between the two. His next door neighbor, who was my 7th grade english teacher, also took pics with his good camera (We'll post those pics when he's done with them). I also took comparison shots with his Economy (somebody had asked about it).

That's a great picture Scott! I'm sure Zachs smile will last until he falls asleep tonight! For some reason the picture you text me tonight would not download and I'm sure it was this one anyways!

sold my pair of fronts for $255 plus shipping on ebay

Right now...I'd hafta say the heap big Tecumseh.

My brother bought a 1963 Wheel Horse yesterday but the seller wanted to keep his plow. It is one I have never seen before at a show, online or in a photo. It is on a 1963 633 tractor, I think it may be original to the tractor. It is a 42 inch plow, with two skid feet at the rear of the plow. The frame is the three sided angle iron but smaller than the traditonal snowplow frames. The rear of the frame does not have a 3/4 inch round bar but it does have two angle iron pieces like those used in the early rear transmission plow/tiller hitches but it is welded on to the end of the plow frame. Looks original. The front has a solid flat piece of steel in the middle of the frame that is used to move the spring loaded into the housing that allows you to angle the blade. The handle witha knob that moved the blade is on the right and shorter than those on later plow frames. View from rear of tractor: View of the center mechanism for the Wheel Horse 42 inch snowplow dozer blade we looked at today. If anyone knows of this version, the model number or any othe details please post for all Red Square members!

My brother, David Ralph, has decided to take an old 1964 Wheel Horse 1054 frame that we had a place a 350 Honda motor on it. He is working up a jackshaft with a sprocket for this project that will run the tractor. This is a photo of the Honda 350 motor -which actually runs very well !

Terry needs to do decals for a helmet also so David Ralph stays safe on that beast..

Recently, I was asking about this model too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdZ7tyRpE-w&list=UUd_ptV1TUpPlW1VhCjxez_Q&index=17

Not all just greed and dishonesty. I've had the pleasure of dealing with many honest people and it's the few that make it horrible. I actually believe that most people are basically honest and do the right thing. Matt probably has many deals that were completed with honest people but it's the one person that isn't which is the one that gets the most attention. 40:1 ain't too bad but even the 1 shouldn't happen.

A long time ago, Cable wrote: The actual production number was, for certain, 200 units. Ed from Toro looked things up for me about a year ago and had the listing showing that 200 serial numbers were issued. Evidently, a second run was considered but later cancelled. Here's an excerpt straight from the horse's mouth: The 420LSE always generates a lot of discussion. I had it in my head that we made two production runs, but the records show otherwise. The serial tags, #00001 – 00200 were issued out on 5-20-86, so we built 200, not counting the prototype, which we have in storage. The plans to do another run in 1987 were apparently dropped, as the record shows 196 serial tags being scrapped in December, 1987. I don’t have the production printout for each month in these two years, so it is possible something may have happened during a “missing†month, but I don’t think so.

Early D-200 C-160 Hydro C-160 8spd 84 C-195 74 D-160 Just gotta get the last 2.

That's the problem with the world today, there's no honor, no sense of pride in how you treat other people, just greed and dishonesty.

It's too late now, but when dealing through Paypal you should have asked for him to send you an invoice. That way you would have had a legal document and federal interstate law would have been on your side. With Paypal, pay ONLY after receiving a Paypal invoice for anything like this. Sent from my MB520 using Tapatalk 2

that is bs, i agree a deal is a deal, you paid for it, its your tractor call the police dept. that is theft in my eyes. money across state lines is a felony thats theft if you stated what you bought. check into it and best of luck

I figured it was a safe statement considering I'm a tractor guy too :)

Neil, it's because that's what friends do for each other, help one another out no matter what. I also, would love to go across the pond to help you out. If all of guys could make it, your horse fleet would be back an running in no time. Then who wants to go on a quick tour of Europe? I know my fiancé would. Lol.

I do say, some of you have very good hearts to want to just help a fellow Wheel Horse owner in need. I'm touched. Mrs. Claus is peaking over my shoulder as I was reading this and she couldn't help but to wipe the tears away as she was reading this. To all those who do have your lists, thanks. The elves are busy now, scrounging and hectically fulfilling those items on the lists. Someday I hope to be able to get the time to come down to the Wheel Horse show. You would think the summer months would be a break for me, but toy making never stops. As well as supervising the elves, seeing to their needs, feeding the reindeer, etc. But, who knows, I might be able to make it one year. Merry Christmas. Ho! Ho! Ho!

Rest In Peace. Dave Brubeck - Take Five:

Massive Attack - Teardrop:

60's front engine Round Hoods C-160 Auto 420 LSE C-195 953/1054's And in the bull pen, Any D with a Kohler!! 520H (As long as it comes with a free test light!)

520H D250 D200 C195 420LSE I'd give my 312H to my wife :)

1991 & up 520H No name 16 Auto Bronco 14 C-195 My Cowboy's High Horse Custom

No order: C195 55 RJ35 55 RS-83 520 HC (worker) 59 RJ Subruban 400 (Sorry that is 6)

In no paticular order C195 C160A GT14 520 lever steer

I live near Ionia, between Grand Rapids and Lansing. If I get it and decide its not something I want to mess with I will sell it as a whole. I don't really have any interest in parting one out and trying to sell parts and be left with a carcuss sitting out back. I am not a parts guy scrapper type. I would also be interested in trades if I went that route. It sounds like I can recover my money plus the cost of fuel to get it, so I feel I have nothing to lose with it.

I run Valvoline full synthetic racing oil in my pulling engines. It has the anti wear additives for flat tappet camshafts. But those engines do not run long enough to get really hot and I change the oil after every 4 runs. Someone mentioned an oil temperature gauge on a tractor. My 520xi has a factory oil temperature gauge. It isn't marked in degrees, it's marked in 3 ranges, green, yellow and red. I have always run Shell Rotella straight 30W in all of my worker Wheel Horses, 2 of them are diesels so I just use it in all of them so I don't have to have a bunch of different kinds of oil sitting around. The Kohler Command in the 520xi calls for 10W30, I didn't have any Rotella 10W30 and since I have always liked Mobil 1, I decided to run 10W30 Mobil 1 in it this spring. I was about halfway through mowing when I noticed the the temperature gauge was running fairly high. Before I could finish mowing the temperature gauge was touching the yellow range so I shut it off and let it cool down. I thought maybe the cooling fins were clogged or something so I took the tins off and cleaned everything up then finished mowing. The next week I watched the gauge closely and at about the same amount of time mowing the gauge was at the yellow again. I shut it off and pulled the dipstick and the oil was as thin as water, it ran right off the dipstick. I went out and bought a new filter and some 10W30 Rotella and changed oil. The Rotella has been in there ever since, and the only time it's gone over halfway in the green range was on a day when the temperature was 95 degrees in the shade and even then it was only slightly higher than it normally is. I'm not saying Mobil 1 isn't good oil, I'm just saying my air cooled engine didn't like it one bit. I think it's better suited for a water cooled engine, it seems to thin badly at the higher operating temperatures of an air cooled engine. The Rotella seems to maintain it's viscosity much better in the high operating temperatures of an air cooled engine.

here are some pics

Hello everyone, well we found more Wheel Horse on eba% and decided what the heck since in St Louis they are close so we bought it. She is pretty rough but think that we are going to do a useful restoration, pull her apart paint the outside and re-decal, then on the inside we are going to use the bedliner paint so Colby and toss anything that he wants in there. As you can see in the pics there are stickers on it but no Model tag by the spring bolt assembly so hope someone can tell me the approximate year...I am not sure what year it is from but want to get new stickers on it and didnt know it they are sold or if I should just get some from any year because not really looking to show or sell. As always...thanks everyone

After seeing that Pic. The cab on my tractor takes on a whole new perspective. Not sure it's a good one either.

I like all of the front-engined / Kohler-powered '61 to '64 models, but the 633 and 704 models are my favorites. (no batteries to go dead )