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I went and got the lawn ranger out of storage so thought I would post sum pics it poured rain on me about the time I started loading it uphttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/52c2b1de7ee2490d7622ec0c3c9d970c.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/43b58136e2a9e1de7c00f52c9293a634.jpg]

OK ... here all you get for now, an unfinished peek at the BUTT of the Beast!! Thundies rollin in so I had to stuff her in the hauler quick. Hopefully I can get her in the garage tomorrow and finish this round of little items. Honestly, I don't see this ending any time soon, 23 guys looked at it today, and I was given at least 10 cool new ideas. Damn. Guess the only way it will ever be done is if I hide it!! LOL

Mrs Rules picked up this all original, A-81 at this years big show... little video here of me, checking out how well it mows for all the hecklers.

A guy in the South end of Lansing had over 150 garden tractors in-and-around his house, mostly hidden by trees and shrubs, probably 6 old Wheel Horses in there, he did let me walk around and look, but he was "collecting tractors" and didn't want to sell any (about 1993). He did do a few crude modifications but not even minor restorations on any. Got most of them for free or very minor cost. After many warnings, City of Lansing came in and hauled everyone of them that were outside away (junk yard?) and added $1200 to his taxes that year. He now moved to within 1/2 mile of me (2006), probably is up to 75 garden tractors, most are in an old pole barn, I can come and look when he is home, but to just look, he worn't sell anything or even trade parts off of them, I asked if I could take pictures, he said no. He has to have help when he goes to get new ones, doesn't even mow his own yard, just collects the tractors to look at I guess, they are all 600' off the road and can't be seen. Actually he is a very nice guy, about mid-70's, not highly knowledgeable about them, but he just likes them, any brand, and I think he actually enjoys it when I come over to look at them (he's up to 8 Wheel Horses now). "Go Figure . . . it makes him happy'. Glen

I recently picked up a front mower from the big show. I got it for a whopping $90!. It works great under trees and bushes. Took me quite a while to find one. Here are some pictures after getting it hooked up.

Eureka! Lawn cutting succes with the super C. Albeit only a couple passes. The real test will be in a few days when the lawn requires a cut. I replaced the Clutch and bearings on the PTO. Also found an old thread where Baerpath suggested roughing the friction material as it had glazed appearance and followed suit. Now the deck cuts like a dream! Still getting used used to the higher center of gravity. I am starting the thread by i-phone for first time and will try and upload the pic of the C195 at work....since lawn was under control. Also my c161 and one of the GT14's.....

Hello wheel horse people. Through lot's of talking and hunting I got the old battered horse home. This horse was another one headed to the shredder to become soup cans, but it was saved by one of my co-workers before I started at the recycling yard and after much talking and some trading it's mine now. A 416_8 with electric lift. The tractor is in very ruff shape with a ton of little problems. There are many parts on the tractor that would fit the old faithful 312 but I think I should just fix it and keep one more horse out grazing. Tell me what you think. Oh and before I go the infamous rock shaft under the seat is intact that was my unicorn part

Picture time..... I've selected some pictures that show where I'm at with this. Some are parts that I took off in hopes of getting that part looking better. Some parts are in some stage of paint or prep. There are examples of trouble I've had (brought on by myself and my lack of experience) LOL. For example the 1st pic is of the drive belt cover. My 1st body panel attempt. Scuffed the paint with whatever i have laying around. Wiped it down poorly and shot some regal red. I taped off the original paint just to see what it would look like next to new paint. ( like I said previously, i fully expected the worst and that's exactly what i got.) I don't have much in the way of budget. I'm not terribly poor mind you, my thinking is use what you have and improve your tools as your skills improve. As my skills increase so will my budget. Pic 2 is of the start of the hood. This one REALLY scares me as it is what everyone looks at. I'll get over that and get some paint down though. Pic 3 is the deck. Spent more time prepping and got better results. Let's face it. It's a friggin mower deck. Just how good should it be? You'll see in pics 4 & 5 some of the deck parts. Haven't decided how far into the quality barrel i want to go. I also found a "test" as i call it. The blade carrier under the deck is cracked. I talked to someone that said it could be braised. Again, beyond me but I'll get help and learn more still. The rest of the pics are just pics. More will come, just like you guys, as time allows. Thanks for looking and keeping this hobby well informed.

I think we are going to have drag races up and down the street and tractor pulls on Steve's front yard, that's what I think...

Well, guess it's a good thing I didn't make the show ... ticker having some issues, spent a long weekend in the "Big House" with Congestive heart Failure ... simply, I was filling up with fluid .. they drained 31.4 POUNDS of pee off me in 4 days!! Out for 3 days then back mto the ER with a kidney stone. life sucks!! Anyway, with my bottle of diet cranberry juice, and pee strainer in hand, I'm back at it!! Just about finished with the roof, installed sound system, back up camera and GPS, and some more chicken lights!! Can't have enough of those!! Got some top secret goodies back from my buddy and his CNC machine .... NO ... no peekin!!! Hopefully we will mount the roof tomorrow, and I will sneek you a pic or two ... maybe, I mite just make you wait!! Hell, I'm waitin too!! LOL Ok ok ... geez ... here's ONE speaker ... happy??? Very nice ... suppose we could use that big thing on ther front to clear palm frawns from the driveway after the wind storms??? lol

Great, we hope to see you there I'm not sure if others plan to bring any tractors but I hope they would, and encourage all to bring em if they can. Lenoir is not far at all! As far as parts I will have a load of parts to trade or sell very reasonably .

I have the same front mount carrier and used it for a few years with a 48 inch deck. It worked well - my only complaints would be that you get some blow back of grass clippings in your face especially if there is wind. Also, standard deck wheels will dig into the grass in a sharp turn - I put some larger more rounded wheels on my deck to help limit this issue. The carrier does come with 2 rods with smaller wheels that bolt to the flat bar (nearest to the tractor) but these are essentially useless. What it really needs are 2 additional wheels that are beefy like the 2 swivel casters in the front. Another benefit is that it is much easier to take on and off than the standard belly mount. Brice

Ok. Here are the pictures I took last night at 11:00pm. It's dusty and dirty in the pictures. I gave it a quick wash today and it looks even better. This weekend I'll give it a full cleaning and detailing, change the oil and filter, fuel filter, and spark plug.

Retired, enjoy maintaining the Horses. They need it, they get it! Speed? I really don't care. Settle in for all the seat time I can get, or the grandsons, or sons. We all need seat time, ride 'em cowboys! Today I was offered a D-250 ran great with a jump start, dead battery. Owner uses Kubota's now and, if I ask, probably zero bucks or, pay me sometime. Should I pick the Stallion up? I never cared for Renault. Guess I'll get the Horse dropped off then find room in my barn. I am part German so......................

Good for you Dino... Smokin Jo knows how to pick 'em

here is the belt arrangement.

Great find! Had a front mower on an old Sears (maybe Power King?) mower and loved it. Will have to keep my eye out for one for a W.H.

Hello Everyone !! It has been awhile since the last update and now that the big show is over I have good news to report !! If you did not make it to the show this year you did not see the 1956 Senior for sale, it had the starter generator on it and a rear plow. The owner is out of Huntington PA, if you are looking for one send me a private message I will look for the owners information. The totals for the Lever Steers and Seniors stands as follows. Seniors: 43 Levers: 20

Small drill, under 1/2", then use a reamer. Install bushing and add "tighten bolts" to the PM list.

The holes should be round. but the tie rod ends must have been loose to elongate the holes. The tie rod end bolt nuts should be tightened so there is no movement in the hole.

If anyone knows Bill Jenkins phone # or email address maybe they can post it up. I see the original poster is in Pa. and Bill is also. If Bill has a rear diff for this tractor and he says it is good then it is good.

Great find! You stole it tooi Been looking for the frame for sometime, not too many available.

I thought this would be a good setup for those of us who have high grass that doesn't need mowed all the time. High grass/weeds get smashed down by the wheels but not so with a front-mount deck that is wider than the wheelbase of the tractor. I always wanted to try one but bulked at the costs of the carrier. You got a nice deal at the show! Congrats!

I can use my MacBook Pro and we can hook up a extra camera with a long usb cable to move around with if we want. Big thing is internet access. Steve we would have to run a wireless router out on your houses porch so I can hook up to it. Have have multiple computers for multiple vantage points!

If we go back to the 70's when these engines were built, a "tune up" included a check and adjustment of the valves. Cars, trucks and small engines all needed their valves adjusted from time to time. I have chased down the obvious fuel/fire issues without success until nothing was left to check but valve clearance. ..Readjust valves and the engines run fine. A lot of people will tear a carb apart for cleaning and inspection but dont bother to check valve clearance while carb is off and breather cover is easily accessable. When was the last time you check valve clearance?

I'd like to stop in also. I'm in Lenoir. Is anyone planning on bringing their tractors or parts to buy,sell or trade?

Steve if they have the capability for muti-screen buzz me in. I could go for some back row heckling right about now!

There is a service bulletin on replacing the roll pins at the spindles and steering shaft

Smokes man, if you have a 607 with only 5° of play I think you are doing better than factory! But yea, just make sure the fan gear is shimmed as close as possible to the pinion on the pivot point. Also check for ovaling of the spots where the pinion and the fan gear shaft rotate in. You can either replace the parts or get clever with bushings like some have on here.

Now that I'm a supporter, I'll try n post pics from start to present....

Got any pics of the drive belt arrangement?

I have resorted to a hydraulic bottle jack and a block of wood between the wheels to apply some pressure, then shock it with the BFH.

Loosen the lug nuts a bit, and drive the tractor in tight circles.

There are collectors, and then there are hoarders. It must give him some kind of psychological security. If that 'floats his boat', let him have it. It's good to know that his old tractors fill a need, just as my eleven WHs satisfy me. I have to be careful not to become a hoarder whenever I see a WH for sale. I guess my wife and my budget keep that from happening. Just hope that the old guy's descendants appreciate the value of the good tractors. Jim

John Fisher and I live about twenty minutes apart and for the past ten years or so have conveyed together to the Big Show. It gives you peace of mind knowing that if you have mechanical problems there is help nearby and a couple of times there were problems. This year the trip was uneventful if you don't mind driving the four and a half hour trip home in a driving rain. After we split up a few miles from home John had a near tragedy. As he turned on a back road about three miles from home, his trailer jack drug on the road. He thought that he had forgot to raise it when we pulled out so he pulled over to check. What he found was scary. The whole receiver had broken loose from his motorhome and was hanging down. The rear metal plates when the receiver was welded to the motorhome chassis had rotted away. The front ones were holding, barely. The part that was hanging down was also where the safety chains attach so if the front plates failed the trailer with five 'Horses on it would have come loose and been a runaway missile. The consequences could have been deadly, at the least the trailer and 'Horses would have been wrecked. Lesson learned? Get under your tow vehicle and check the welds, condition of the metal, etc. Basically the structural integrity of the receiver especially if you tow a boat trailer and/ or live near the seashore. John was lucky, you might not be.

yea i'm sorry i was looking at the picture and assumed wrong. i have had my share of run ins with the township over my tractors and so called "junk" in my yard and on my car port. i ended up enclosing my car port so i did not have to get rid of my 69 Dodge Dart GTS. so i feel his pain eric j

That is sad. Perhaps an intervention . . . cut said oxygen hose and back a trailer up

I agree with Ken on this. It is too bad for you that you couldn't score a good project, but the love of this herd is what keeps him going. I would hope he has a friend or two who will act on behalf of his estate to find new homes for them. We lost a member of our antique tractor club this spring and several of us have helped his widow sell them off slowly.

I'm interested in participating. The show before this last one, my brother came to the show without a tractor so we bought all the parts at the show and built one. We did it right in the dirt road in front of our display area. It did take some time away from doing other things around the show but that kind of stuff is fun for me. We had a couple of spectators and few hecklers as we did it plus quite a few people stopped by to check it out so there was plenty of interaction going on. After getting it all together and dumping about a quart of water out of the engine, we had it running and driving. It actually ran pretty good without cleaning the carb and didn't smoke. Cost was about $375 but Jdogg (Jordan) hooked us up with some real good prices on the engine and MANY of the small miscellaneous parts which made it possible. We could've just bought a $250 or $300 tractor and drove away with it but doing it this way was MUCH more fun!

club here is my opinion on these CLONE engines. if you purchase one you are SUPPORTING a THIEF. they do not pay any royalties to the company that they STOLE from. thank you. boomer

This poor foot is taking a beating. It's the same foot that I had my toe surgery on last year and now this. I didn't want to post the photo without the boot as this is a family site!

It's a ....mini airboat? ..... a very short tree stand? Nah... just a horse roof, upside down, gettin some finishing touches ...Off to the sunbrella babe this afternoon ... now take a few days off and sit with Mom!!

John, you can ride through the parade in my dump trailer. I promise not to hit the lever!

Sorry to hear about your accident, hope your surgery and recovery goes well.

After seeing the orthopedic surgeon this morning, surgery is Wednesday morning. My ankle is swollen enough to look like I am firmly rooted to the ground! I guess I really did a number as the ligament was torn and the break will require a metal plate. Supposedly it will heal quicker by performing the surgery, and have less chance of arthritis in years to come. The bummer is approximately 10 weeks until a clean bill of health. So much for using the 5xi's foot pedals this Summer. Good thing I have the C-145A with the motion control lever that will be next to my cast.

A late entry to the hard hat award!

Here is what it will be. The 753

I can't say I've mowed with anything else here at the house either...well since I gave up the push mower & started collecting the horses. I can say my former 520H with 48" side discharge was the best cut I have ever seen! But I still prefer the 42" rear discharge since not all my trees & obstacles are on the left side. You just can"t beat that paticular deck if your mowing in tight quarters. Some swear buy the 32" & 36" rear discharge gear driven decks...I've never really had a good one to be honest. I do now have a perfect 32" in that style & intend to use it once to find out. Perry sounds like you have all the right equipment...put some sharp blade on a deck & see what that B100 will do. :thumbs:

Interesting question, as I have never mowed without a Wheel Horse so I too have nothing to base it on. What I can tell you is when the 416-H is humming along, it is truly relaxing to spend some time in style. I have the recycler on my 42" and take it good and slow. I don't think that I have ever wanted to "rush" to get finished.