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Bruce 1960

Hey Guys, I thought I could tear this old RJ-58 down and rebuild it without asking you all alot of questions, then come back with before and after pics to surprise everyone. But I have run in to a snag.I found that after the rebuild of the transmission some 20 yrs ago, I must not have replaced the bronze bearings at the end of axle shafts, so I bought new ones but now I can't find the seals. So here I am asking what and where are you guys using for these seals. Parts book lists them as 1232 axle oil seal. Are they available other places or are these a toro only thing? Thanks in advance.

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953 nut
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SKF 9815 or Motion Industries 01295997 should do the trick.

:angry-tappingfoot:    No more keeping secrets           :wwp:

@stevasaurus  has a great thread on rebuilding the old three piece transmissions.

 

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gwest_ca

I believe the axle seal number is 1257.

 

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Bruce 1960

Thanks for the quick answers guys, now I can order some. As for keeping secret,  we'll I wanted to surprise everyone but I'll show some teaser pics here. More pics to come!!

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rjg854

Start a thread in the Restoration forum, or maybe one of the mods could move this, there.  BTW   :WRS:   if you have a lot of pictures, and we sure do like  :text-coolphotos:   You might consider going to the store and buying a supporter deal, that will allow you to post as many pictures you want.  There's a limit on pictures for nonmembers, plus you help support this great site.  Glad you found us, and looking forward to more information on your project.

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:clap:  For inspiration... 20210403_083015.jpg.b2cb3e7b44ca83a7c93ca4f64d3088fd.jpgan RJ resto completed here last fall.

 

 

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stevasaurus

Notice the side plate on the left, it has a reset ring on the end of the axle tube.  This is an early RJ side plate.  The #1232 (SKF-9815) seal would go in here.  These did not last long, so Wheel Horse came up with a cap seal #1257 (TORO # 83-2840) that goes over the end of the axle tube.  These are from TORO, but I understand Lowell has them.  The side plate on the right is what they all look like now.  @Bruce 1960  if you have that reset, you can use both seals, but it is not necessary.  Forget the #1232 and get the "Cap" seal for your RJ.  They are pricey...$18-$23 for a pair.  Note:  these side plates do not have the bronze bushing in there yet.

 

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Picture of "Cap" seal.

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stevasaurus

What are the numbers & letter inside the black square in the picture.???  This is your casting date for that transmission.  Next to the shifter.  :occasion-xmas:

 

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Stevasurus, mine has has the cap seals that you show, thanks for the pics, now I know what to buy. And my numbers are from a replacement transmission, so its from a 1959, number is D14-9, I junked the original trans many years ago, now I wish I had it back. So here are the seals I first bought, so are these the inner type? My old cap type is laying beside them.

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Bruce 1960
4 hours ago, rjg854 said:

Start a thread in the Restoration forum, or maybe one of the mods could move this, there.  BTW   :WRS:   if you have a lot of pictures, and we sure do like  :text-coolphotos:   You might consider going to the store and buying a supporter deal, that will allow you to post as many pictures you want.  There's a limit on pictures for nonmembers, plus you help support this great site.  Glad you found us, and looking forward to more information on your project.

I am and have been a member, I was going to post in other forum, but since I started my original post here I wanted to let the guys here know to go look at the finished project when it got done, but not done yet, just here asking a few questions, but if the mods want to move it feel free to do so. 

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stevasaurus

I'll leave it here for now...no problem.

D14-9   D=April 14th 1959

   Even if you changed out the transmission, I think I would call your RJ a 1959 now.  It's obviously not a 1958 anymore.  :occasion-xmas:  :USA:

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stevasaurus

Yes, those are the seals you do not need.  #100863 is the newer number from Wheel Horse and super-seeds the #1232 and equates to SKF-9815.  Those seals will work on any Wheel Horse 2 piece transmission with 1" axles.

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Bruce 1960

@stevasurus- You are correct, they are pricey. $50.60 pricey!! I just sucked it up and ordered them. Oh well, the things we do for fun!!!!

 

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Bruce 1960

The flat black on the hood sure makes it easier to see the dents I need to work out. It's getting closer to being alive again.

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Bruce 1960

I promised you guys pics when I was done so here they are. Still need to hook up fuel line, and put on hitch. Still want to find a set of fenders, but I think it came out pretty good! And Thanks for all the help, this site is great!!

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Bruce 1960

Some out side before decals.

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kpinnc

Almost makes me miss my RJ...

 

Looks great!

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stevasaurus

WOW!!!  Outstanding labor of love you have there.  She really looks sharp.  She will be around a long time.  :occasion-xmas:

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:text-yeahthat:Nice work! :handgestures-thumbupright:

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